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Niggurath posted:I don't understand the point of this:
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Niggurath posted:I don't understand the point of this: I think the intent (at least for people on my feed) is pointing out that history has been white washed, and certain things have been forgotten. It i no way makes Orlando not a tragedy, just a misnomer on calling it the worst episode of gun violence in America. There was also an event where 250 African American were killed after their homes were set on fire, and got gunned down running to safety. Orlando is the worst modern massacre, there's no doubt. Gun Violence has been with us for a long, long time, and usually bigotry is involved in some way.
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Jun 15, 2016 00:11
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Von Humboldt posted:Wounded Knee is being bandied about as exactly what happens when you trust the government and give up your weapons. It's a way to minimize the shooting at Orlando while taking a swipe at gun control in the immediate aftermath. Like, straight up, seen this put out as a "You think Orlando was bad? This is what happens without guns!" This, of course, ignores a lot of history - but the people who share this crap don't really care, do they?
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Jun 15, 2016 00:12
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Jun 15, 2016 00:17
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Von Humboldt posted:Wounded Knee is being bandied about as exactly what happens when you trust the government and give up your weapons. It's a way to minimize the shooting at Orlando while taking a swipe at gun control in the immediate aftermath. Like, straight up, seen this put out as a "You think Orlando was bad? This is what happens without guns!" This, of course, ignores a lot of history - but the people who share this crap don't really care, do they? God dammit I had a vanishingly brief moment where I thought maybe someone was giving a poo poo about Native Americans but your explanation makes too much sense. Oh well, gently caress gun nuts
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Jun 15, 2016 00:22
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My aunt is "part" Native American. She is the single most liberal person I have ever met. She is posting both pro "ban guns completely" and the wounded knee thing. Smh.
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Jun 15, 2016 00:29
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Von Humboldt posted:Wounded Knee is being bandied about as exactly what happens when you trust the government and give up your weapons. It's a way to minimize the shooting at Orlando while taking a swipe at gun control in the immediate aftermath. Like, straight up, seen this put out as a "You think Orlando was bad? This is what happens without guns!" This, of course, ignores a lot of history - but the people who share this crap don't really care, do they? It's not even the biggest Native American massacre, just the one that's most convenient to talk about
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Jun 15, 2016 00:30
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Yeah, like I in no way discount the fact that Native Americans have been treated harshly or that they have been rounded up and whole sale slaughtered for their lands...but I think there's just a difference between an armed conflict between two warring people and a single sociopath premeditating going to a place to murder folks. But I also saw people getting butt hurt that people weren't slapping American flags over their profile pictures while everyone was putting French flags or whatever flavor of the month tragedy was going on, so it just seems that internet anonymity brings out the passive aggression in people.
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Jun 15, 2016 00:35
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I was kind of surprised to see someone who isn't dumb posting this on FB, but I got REAL excited when I found the reply.... I've never had a false flagger or whatever before!!  I also had to unfriend and block someone who was frothing over gun rights and why we don't go after ISIS instead of passing anti 2nd amendment laws and so on and so on and I did a mental John Travolta Pulp Fiction turn as I considered "touch the poop? don't touch the poop?" I decided she was not open to discussing how ISIS, Al-Queda and Saddam Hussein originally got their start in the terrorism business because poooooop.
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Jun 15, 2016 00:35
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Then again, they're probably the same people who think that the Epic Rap Battles of History acknowledging in one of their raps that slavery happened is an example of white guilt, so… 
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Jun 15, 2016 00:52
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TinTower posted:Then again, they're probably the same people who think that the Epic Rap Battles of History acknowledging in one of their raps that slavery happened is an example of white guilt, so… "It's not really a rap battle if only one person is allowed to be cool!" I really should not expect any better from youtube comments.
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Jun 15, 2016 01:00
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Dunno who this is but I sure as hell hate him.
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Jun 15, 2016 02:08
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just a constant march of "WE HAD TO TAKE CONFEDERATE FLAGS DOWN BUT HOW COME THEY DONT HAVE TO TAKE THEIR MUSLIM FLAGS DOWN" e: i did pledge to take my isis flag down and go protest at the isis embassy for this heinous attack though
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Jun 15, 2016 02:11
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FordPRefectLL posted:just a constant march of "WE HAD TO TAKE CONFEDERATE FLAGS DOWN BUT HOW COME THEY DONT HAVE TO TAKE THEIR MUSLIM FLAGS DOWN" Up here in Canada I have seen a few "why are government buildings flying the pride flag. They should just be flying the Canadian flag." thing going on.
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Jun 15, 2016 02:46
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BigglesSWE posted:Dunno who this is but I sure as hell hate him. https://twitter.com/petermadden2u/status/742286288829616133 A Family First party fundie fuckwit.
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Jun 15, 2016 03:16
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Madkal posted:Up here in Canada I have seen a few "why are government buildings flying the pride flag. They should just be flying the Canadian flag." thing going on. 
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Jun 15, 2016 03:16
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That70sHeidi posted:I was kind of surprised to see someone who isn't dumb posting this on FB, but I got REAL excited when I found the reply.... I've never had a false flagger or whatever before!! I unfriended someone tonight that I've been friends with for over 30 years. He's always leaned pretty hard right, and is ex-military and always posts a lot of OUR TROOPS stuff and how liberals are dumb. Fifty people dead, and all he could offer was a snarky Facebook lecture "clearing up some of the ignorance" that he's seen regarding gun facts and terminology. gently caress.
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Jun 15, 2016 03:24
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Jun 15, 2016 03:32
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You blacks and gays are so selfish to be scared of the mass shootings you were targeted in! That could have been straight white people!
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Jun 15, 2016 03:40
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gently caress me this IoSM poo poo right now is depressing
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Jun 15, 2016 03:51
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Jun 15, 2016 04:24
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Pesticide20 posted:gently caress me this IoSM poo poo right now is depressing Yeah this has been a whole new level of depressing. You'd think people who be sympathetic but people are just doubling down on their bigotry and close-mindedness after this. I can't believe I personally know such abhorrent people (some people have posted worse than what I've seen on my feed but the idea is there). This election is going to be so loving sad because no matter who wins people are going to lose it. I'm genuinely scared of the growing division in this hosed up country. Side note: did this happen after 9/11? I was in elementary school but I don't remember anyone calling for the extermination of Islam like they are now. Has social media and the echo chambers it brings whipped everyone into a frenzy? What are the chances it gets out of control and we all end murdering each other? Immolat1on has a new favorite as of 04:35 on Jun 15, 2016 |
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Jun 15, 2016 04:33
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aas Bandit posted:I unfriended someone tonight that I've been friends with for over 30 years. He's always leaned pretty hard right, and is ex-military and always posts a lot of OUR TROOPS stuff and how liberals are dumb. Fifty people dead, and all he could offer was a snarky Facebook lecture "clearing up some of the ignorance" that he's seen regarding gun facts and terminology. gently caress. Facebook didn't even exist 30 years ago, what the hell
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aas Bandit posted:I unfriended someone tonight that I've been friends with for over 30 years. He's always leaned pretty hard right, and is ex-military and always posts a lot of OUR TROOPS stuff and how liberals are dumb. Fifty people dead, and all he could offer was a snarky Facebook lecture "clearing up some of the ignorance" that he's seen regarding gun facts and terminology. gently caress. you were friends with a TFR poster?
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Jun 15, 2016 04:38
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There seems to be at least one guy in every comment thread who  out on some "Well actually the AR-15 is a civillian semiautomatic rifle, not a machine gun. You see, each time you pull the trigger it only fires one bullet, and furthermore..."Like that somehow makes it safe as houses and resurrects the 50 guys who just wanted to dance sexy with eachother that were mowed down by one, or the 20 kindergartners, or...
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Jun 15, 2016 04:41
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It's almost as if the firearm used was capable of firing lots of rounds fairly accurately in a very short time, perhaps even aided by large-capacity magazines and enabling a single shooter to do incredible damage quickly! Naw, must of been multiple shooters. (Don't taze me, 'must of' was intentional) TotalLossBrain has a new favorite as of 05:26 on Jun 15, 2016 |
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Jun 15, 2016 04:44
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A lot of friends have been liking and sharing celebrity posts about how maybe the AR-15 needs to be regulated or banned because it's really good at killing lots of people super fast, and maybe you don't want everyone including people on terror watch lists to be able to buy one no questions asked, but it's fine for other guns to be sold just like in all the countries where guns are legal yet there aren't mass shootings every week. Que hundreds of comments of "OH SURE BLAME THE GUN NOT THE PERSON" "I THOUGHT YOU WERE SMARTER THAN THIS" "I'M UNFOLLOWING YOU rear end in a top hat" "GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE"
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Jun 15, 2016 05:09
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Otisburg posted:There seems to be at least one guy in every comment thread who I had a whole argument with a guy doing this (posted in the previous page) and he was acting like he won on a technicality.
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Madkal posted:I had a whole argument with a guy doing this (posted in the previous page) and he was acting like he won on a technicality. Picnic Princess posted:A lot of friends have been liking and sharing celebrity posts about how maybe the AR-15 needs to be regulated or banned because it's really good at killing lots of people super fast, and maybe you don't want everyone including people on terror watch lists to be able to buy one no questions asked, but it's fine for other guns to be sold just like in all the countries where guns are legal yet there aren't mass shootings every week. Que hundreds of comments of "OH SURE BLAME THE GUN NOT THE PERSON" "I THOUGHT YOU WERE SMARTER THAN THIS" "I'M UNFOLLOWING YOU rear end in a top hat" "GUNS DON'T KILL PEOPLE" I had a guy, not twenty four hours after the shooting, post a picture of his AR-15. "Still in a corner, hasn't shot anyone!" People are loving dead. And when I tell him that it's garbage to make some smarmy remark when a similar weapon killed and maimed so many other people, I get the reply that he's pointing out the hypocrisy of the media and the President. They're wanting to go after the gun, not the terrorists. And he, a service member, knows exactly how to stop terrorism and has been trained in it - the response to a mass shooting in a gay club in Florida, according to this, is just to call it Islamic Terrorism and bomb more poo poo. A call to 911 to pledge to ISIS isn't a man trying to grasp legitimacy; it's proof! No matter what you say, you're inescapably wrong. Everything lines up perfectly for them; all else falls away. It's not a discussion, and it's not an argument. It never was, and never can be - you might as well beg the wind not to blow or the wind not to shine for all the good it will do. The corpses are just a platform to show off that you're a real American with correct opinions. This isn't very funny. Uh, I know a lot of dudes who like softcore pages on Facebook. I don't get it; one of them was my buddy's father and a manager at a warehouse, and I had to remove him from my feed because he would straight up share every other picture these pages would share. Embarrassing as heck, right? Also, once I set an email to my co-manager of a project we were working on, and titled it "farts for days." Nothing serious or on the record; just an informal checkup on where we both were. I did not realize that I had also CC'd my boss. She got a laugh, at least.
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kirbysuperstar posted:https://twitter.com/petermadden2u/status/742286288829616133 Would I be a horrible person if I bet that he gets caught trying to solicit sex in a men's room, on Grindr, or on Craigslist?
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Immolat1on posted:Side note: did this happen after 9/11? I was in elementary school but I don't remember anyone calling for the extermination of Islam like they are now. Has social media and the echo chambers it brings whipped everyone into a frenzy? What are the chances it gets out of control and we all end murdering each other? I believe 9/11 created this climate, together with the invasion of Iraq
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constantIllusion posted:Would I be a horrible person if I bet that he gets caught trying to solicit sex in a men's room, on Grindr, or on Craigslist? Yes, because he might go shoot up a gay club as response. I hate people.
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PicklePants posted:I think the intent (at least for people on my feed) is pointing out that history has been white washed, and certain things have been forgotten. It i no way makes Orlando not a tragedy, just a misnomer on calling it the worst episode of gun violence in America. There was also an event where 250 African American were killed after their homes were set on fire, and got gunned down running to safety. Everyone I've seen on my feed has posted it for this exact reason.
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Immolat1on posted:Yeah this has been a whole new level of depressing. You'd think people who be sympathetic but people are just doubling down on their bigotry and close-mindedness after this. I can't believe I personally know such abhorrent people (some people have posted worse than what I've seen on my feed but the idea is there). This election is going to be so loving sad because no matter who wins people are going to lose it. I'm genuinely scared of the growing division in this hosed up country. Yes I too was in elementary school, but consider the kids tv programs around that time. If you ever watched "The Proud Family", there was a family that had their house vandalized and spray-painted with "Go back to Iraq". The people were Pakistani. I think the going thought was "just bomb all of the middle east". Question: What do these people think of muslims in southeast Asia, like Thailand? Do they view them through the same lens or does "Asian" override that?
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Postal Parcel posted:Question: What do these people think of muslims in southeast Asia, like Thailand? Do they view them through the same lens or does "Asian" override that? I think it's a somewhat even split between having no idea that there are Asian (or European) Muslims, and considering them to be exactly the same. At least some of the "Obama is a stealth Muslim" conspiracies are inspired by his time in Indonesia.
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Jun 15, 2016 10:25
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DicktheCat posted:Yes, because he might go shoot up a gay club as response. That's unlikely - he's Australian and we have gun laws.
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Jun 15, 2016 12:33
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thatbastardken posted:That's unlikely - he's Australian and we have gun laws. So he'll go in and release snakes, spiders and a couple of drop bears. Instant slaughter.
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Jun 15, 2016 12:48
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Kajeesus posted:I think it's a somewhat even split between having no idea that there are Asian (or European) Muslims, and considering them to be exactly the same. At least some of the "Obama is a stealth Muslim" conspiracies are inspired by his time in Indonesia. pretty sure the common consensus is that Europe is like 87% muslims.
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thatbastardken posted:That's unlikely - he's Australian and we have gun laws. But if we banned all the guns, criminals would just get hold of them anyway. Which is why there are just as many mass shootings in Australia.
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Cumslut1895 posted:pretty sure the common consensus is that Europe is like 87% muslims. It's true. Not sure where the non-muslims went, though.
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