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Some kind of terrible Harry Potter porn fic posted:Minerva's body swayed with the force of that blow, with the sheer raw lese majeste.
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sarehu posted:You're lumping together compsci/engineering dreck with math majors, please stop. Sorry math major but you're one of them.
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JosephWongKS posted:Chapter 18: Dominance Hierarchies I'm not sure about the rest of what you asked, but I'm pretty sure this part is from her perspective.
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Jun 14, 2016 15:08
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Given Yud's attitude towards schooling and teachers, he must be intending for Harry to be sympathetic here. Which just makes it more impressive that he failed at that entirely and made Harry a spoiled brat instead.quote:Professor Snape has suggested, and I have agreed, that three full months of detention will be appropriate -" I mean, seriously.
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Jun 14, 2016 23:51
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I have a modicum of sympathy for Eli-Harry because teachers really can be such stupid bullies and it's nice to want to take a bully down a peg. Snape definitely qualifies as a bully. But it's just done in such a narcissistic way that it's a pain to read.
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Jun 15, 2016 04:33
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Pvt.Scott posted:I think JK is doing it on purpose, or this is a dummy script to generate furor. Who cares? It's her property. She deserves a chance to poo poo on it. Probably. I mean lets be honest, the whole series has always been more about making her a dump truck full of money than telling a good story. Which personally I respect. Woman found a way to make herself pants shittingly rich without hurting anyone else and maybe even improved the world a little bit. Good on her.
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Jun 15, 2016 05:48
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HIJK posted:it's nice to want to take a bully down a peg. I can't wait to see Harry taken down. Stroth posted:Probably. I mean lets be honest, the whole series has always been more about making her a dump truck full of money than telling a good story. I dunno that seems pretty unfair given the fact that she's done nothing but give away her money since she got it, to the point where she's no longer a billionaire. Also the story is a really good kid's story, it's pretty hilarious to pretend like it isn't. We aren't talking about Twilight here.
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Jun 15, 2016 11:16
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Cavelcade posted:I dunno that seems pretty unfair given the fact that she's done nothing but give away her money since she got it, to the point where she's no longer a billionaire. I did say she's improved the world a little bit with her dump truck of money. And yeah, it's a pretty good story, I just don't think telling a good story was a higher priority than making loads of money. She's businesswoman before she's a writer, that's not a bad thing. Especially since, as you said, she spends a lot of the money she makes on charities.
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Jun 15, 2016 11:45
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Stroth posted:I did say she's improved the world a little bit with her dump truck of money. And yeah, it's a pretty good story, I just don't think telling a good story was a higher priority than making loads of money. She's businesswoman before she's a writer, that's not a bad thing. Especially since, as you said, she spends a lot of the money she makes on charities. I dunno, I don't think most people who are more into money than anything else go and study French and Classics in Exeter university, or expect to make billions from selling a book. I thinks he just wanted to tell her story and got kind of lucky that it took off.
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Haifisch posted:Given Yud's attitude towards schooling and teachers, he must be intending for Harry to be sympathetic here. Which just makes it more impressive that he failed at that entirely and made Harry a spoiled brat instead.
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Jun 15, 2016 14:50
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I think a conniving Harry that tried to make political moves within the school would both be more interesting AND more fitting for a secret voldemort child, especially compared to random tantrums, but whatever
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Jun 15, 2016 14:59
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Accidental Animagus is right up your alley then. As well as The Arithmancer by the same author, though that's Hermione-focused.
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Jun 15, 2016 16:39
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Applied Cultural Anthropology is pretty good too.
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Jun 15, 2016 16:45
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I think Elizarry isn't considering that Dumbledore may be telling the truth about needing a shady potions professor. Harry doesn't know poo poo about magic, so maybe if the potions class was taught by a kindly old soul, Hogwarts would explode violently on the next lunar eclipse.
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Jun 15, 2016 16:51
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quote:"You will explain to me why you allowed this man to hurt the children placed in your care, and if your explanation is not sufficient then I will begin my newspaper campaign with you as the target." Somehow, I can't imagine that "11 year old has tantrum after a teacher asks him some questions he can't answer" is going to be the explosive headline that takes down the establishment.
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Jun 15, 2016 18:27
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Qwertycoatl posted:Somehow, I can't imagine that "11 year old has tantrum after a teacher asks him some questions he can't answer" is going to be the explosive headline that takes down the establishment. See, the worst thing about MoR (and I don't say this lightly) is that if you take it seriously it totally, albeit unintentionally, validates the actions of Vernon Dursley and Dumbledore in the books. Who's the better person? Harry or Eliezarry? The only difference is their upbringing. Eliezarry is the embodiment of everything Dumbledore was hoping to avoid in Harry's personality; eager to abuse his celebrity, convinced of his own superiority, willing to stride into wizarding politics without a loving clue what he is doing on a spiteful childish whim. He had essentially a normal, if slightly eccentric, Muggle childhood. The only difference is the abuse. I realize Eliezarry is supposed to be better than regular-model Harry, but since he isn't, the conclusions MoR invites you to make about the whole situation are pretty much monstrous.
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MoR repudiates pretty much every valid moral lesson taught by the HP series, from the power of friendship onwards. It's seriously like a genuine attempt to craft a values system as repugnant as possible. Ayn Rand-esque, really.
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Jazerus posted:See, the worst thing about MoR (and I don't say this lightly) is that if you take it seriously it totally, albeit unintentionally, validates the actions of Vernon Dursley and Dumbledore in the books. Who's the better person? Harry or Eliezarry? The only difference is their upbringing. Eliezarry is the embodiment of everything Dumbledore was hoping to avoid in Harry's personality; eager to abuse his celebrity, convinced of his own superiority, willing to stride into wizarding politics without a loving clue what he is doing on a spiteful childish whim. He had essentially a normal, if slightly eccentric, Muggle childhood. The only difference is the abuse. Rowling obviously went with the wicked stepparents because it's a trope, but in the last book (IIRC) she pretty clearly argues that Harry became a heroic man despite the Dursleys' abuse, and not at all because of it. That's where Harry confronts Ghost-Dumbledore over it, and GD's - fairly lame - response is that deep down Petunia must have loved him a little bit as her sister's son, or she would not have taken him at all. Dumbledore didn't give a poo poo about Harry's upbringing, his only concern in the books was that he stayed with blood-kin to keep Lily's super-duper-abjuration active. Then, to reinforce the point, Rowling has every other good character come from loving (if not always lucky) families, while Voldemort comes from neglect and abuse and turns out exactly like you'd expect a neglected/abused child with superpowers to turn out. Big Yud reads this (on the wiki), nods sagely, and rolls with it. So Eliezarry is every bit as "heroic" as Harry (he wants to save EVERYONE!), but thanks to his loving upbringing he is not hampered by such crippling weaknesses as "accepting the wizarding world as not full of total morons" or "trusting Dumbledore to maybe know a thing or two". Which, in this universe, would actually be crippling, as it not-at-all-coincidentally happens.
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Where's the practical part of his brain to point out that arguing with a room full of merlins is a bad idea
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Death Bot posted:Where's the practical part of his brain to point out that arguing with a room full of merlins is a bad idea They won't do anything bad to him. Their rational desire to harm Eliezarry is overwhelmed by their irrational desire of not wanting to do reams of paperwork to satisfy the Ministry of Magic after an "incident" involving the boy who lived.
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Xander77 posted:MoR repudiates pretty much every valid moral lesson taught by the HP series, from the power of friendship onwards. It's seriously like a genuine attempt to craft a values system as repugnant as possible. Ayn Rand-esque, really. Hey now At least Ayn Rand wrote her own thing entirely from scratch. Yudboy here is riding of Rowling's coattails And loving it up gloriously, I might add
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Xander77 posted:MoR repudiates pretty much every valid moral lesson taught by the HP series, from the power of friendship onwards. It's seriously like a genuine attempt to craft a values system as repugnant as possible. Ayn Rand-esque, really. "rationalists" do tend to be hardcore Libertarians...
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Chapter 18: Dominance Hierarchies Part Twelve quote:
And thus the damselization of Professor McGonagall continues. quote:
The narrative can call her “Minerva” as much as it likes, but she’s still Professor McGonagall to me. quote:
Heelish behaviour by a protagonist can still be entertaining and likable if the antagonists have been built up as even bigger assholes. However, Dumbledore and Snape just haven’t had enough build-up and Eliezarry just seems like a rude rear end in a top hat instead of the cool badass that Eliezer clearly intends him to be viewed as.
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I think he assumes the reader thinks they're bigger assholes, because he does, and something something rational hivemind something.
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The Shortest Path posted:I think he assumes the reader thinks they're bigger assholes, because he does, and something something rational hivemind something. I actually got to disillusion my friend about the Agreement Theorem (or whatever) by pointing out that the original paper specifies it holds true for people who have the same priors - not for those with different priors (although you can specify the level of disagreement which is "Bayesian" based on the difference in priors, if they are known).
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Cavelcade posted:I actually got to disillusion my friend about the Agreement Theorem (or whatever) by pointing out that the original paper specifies it holds true for people who have the same priors - not for those with different priors (although you can specify the level of disagreement which is "Bayesian" based on the difference in priors, if they are known). "Probability 1 and probability 0 are non existent, hence infinitesimally small differences eventually agree for sufficiently something something priors. Checkmate" 
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they are never known and you are arguing over fake semantic nonsense science
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I am learning how to code and made a HPMOR Markov bot. It generates sentences based on probability. Would you goons like to see some lesswrongbot text?
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VioletCorsica posted:I am learning how to code and made a HPMOR Markov bot. It generates sentences based on probability. Would you goons like to see some computer generated HPMOR sentences? You need to ask? Yes!
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lesswrongbot posted:PC or NPC, that is not the most improbable day of school and Gryffindor had no clue what was convenient, that was not sad, lonely, gloomy, depressed, despairing, or obsessing about her problems. She was, rather, rereading Hogwarts: A History and stood up and died away, falling finally into an extended wailing, now accompanied by small burping sound afterward. lesswrongbot posted:Of possible answers, most of them had let him suspend students by their ankles from the Great Hall with Ron and Hermione squeezed inside. A long line wound right to refuse to talk to me. Those were the best of all House Slytherin. You cannot fulfill your own ignorance. So Harry lowered Ginny back onto the top of the office. He could hear Dobby's squeals of pain receding around the floor.
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lesswrongbot posted:Got this sudden sense of something terribly unfair having been understood. And then a dark shadow beneath it. All three of the diary. For a minute, neither of which was glittering invitingly with gold plates and candles, and directed their steps instead toward the water jug from his arm, and in return I will now demonstrate a certain amount of respect. You are here to wait. She struggled and cried and became very boring. lesswrongbot posted:What scientists were supposed to do. Her mind skipped gears, ground against itself, and spat back the instructions for doing a great setup, had caught him completely by surprise. The least he could manage. It was later in the summer, but Harry figured his father had bought him in the world...
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VioletCorsica posted:I am learning how to code and made a HPMOR Markov bot. It generates sentences based on probability. Would you goons like to see some lesswrongbot text? Only if it generates them based on superior Japanese Bayesian-jutsu-san probabilities.
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Haha pretty good. Are you using trigrams for that one?
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Tunicate posted:Only if it generates them based on superior Japanese Bayesian-jutsu-san probabilities. Sorry. Unfortunately it uses real statistics.
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Pavlov posted:Haha pretty good. Are you using trigrams for that one? Yes, currently. I am trying to get something a little more complex to happen under the hood. Syntax errors for life.
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Well keep at it. A good markov bot is deceptively hard to get right. Actually this applies to Yudkowsky, because it's a good demonstration of the limits of naive bays. Most of the work behind refining a markov bot is in smoothing and weighting and other hacks to make it actually work for you. Yudkowsky would probably hate how bayes is used in practice because of how messy it gets.
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Getting somewhat better, and on topic. lesswrongbot posted:I want to tell you about this later. Some wizards can read your thoughts as they form, do you think you could get in an Uncertain World and Godel, Escher, Bach. May I please consider you sworn to secrecy? That is all I needed to rationalize the wordless inference that had been encouraged to study whatever caught his fancy, sponsored in whatever math or science competitions he entered. Thanks for encouragement, Pavlov. I really enjoy the fiddly bits of coding. WrenP-Complete fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Jun 28, 2016 |
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That bot is shockingly good and those could be actual passages from a rationalfic. I loving dare you to generate enough that you can string them together into a plausible story, put it up on fanfiction.net and advertise it on /r/rational.
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divabot posted:That bot is shockingly good and those could be actual passages from a rationalfic. I loving dare you to generate enough that you can string them together into a plausible story, put it up on fanfiction.net and advertise it on /r/rational. Dare accepted.
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lesswrongbot posted:Countryside, pitching the tent and Hermione. Words failed them. They rose upward in circles, higher and her voice so fearsome that it was an egg. Hagrid was still issuing large amounts of food in his dreams with anyone. He knew long before that. I should have, it would be staying at Hogwarts next year. lesswrongbot posted:Too tidy; the windows were rattling in their surroundings. He was as though someone had just entered the Potions master, was staring at the map. Harry had spent every evening in a satisfied smile. Fang started to make sure we're safer out in front of him, my Lord. Let me rip you.... Let me rip you.... Let me find out more about her hair. WrenP-Complete fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Jun 28, 2016 |
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