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Inspector Gesicht posted:So, against the going price for LinkedIn and Candy Crush, was the Star Wars sale to Disney at 4 billion a steal? And it is it the only multi-billion property that will realistically turn a profit after it changes hands? Actually yeah $4 billion is definitely a steal for an iconic sci-fi property. And Star Wars in particular is merchandising gold.
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JamesKPolk posted:There's a rationality to it from a certain perspective... (or all capital in general is delusional). The one glut capital does not abide is a glut of capital itself.
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Jun 15, 2016 23:06
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quote:Chinese borrowers told to post nude photos as collateral http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/cce6d400-32c6-11e6-ad39-3fee5ffe5b5b.html
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Now that's free market innovation. And some people still think China is communist..
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Inspector Gesicht posted:So, against the going price for LinkedIn and Candy Crush, was the Star Wars sale to Disney at 4 billion a steal? And it is it the only multi-billion property that will realistically turn a profit after it changes hands? LinkedIn has 100 million paying users somehow, which MS is going to spend the next 10 years data mining. Dell still exists to sell computers to companies, the people that pay for things.
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Jun 16, 2016 03:41
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Paul MaudDib posted:Actually yeah $4 billion is definitely a steal for an iconic sci-fi property. And Star Wars in particular is merchandising gold. gently caress that adorable rolling egg.
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Jun 16, 2016 04:01
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sbaldrick posted:LinkedIn has 100 million paying users somehow, which MS is going to spend the next 10 years data mining. Dell reminds me of BlackBerry, actually. As much of a joke as BB is, I was just handed a new Classic last week and I'm rather impressed with how tightly integrated it is with Outlook and all the phone in meeting software and whatnot.
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Solkanar512 posted:Dell reminds me of BlackBerry, actually. As much of a joke as BB is, I was just handed a new Classic last week and I'm rather impressed with how tightly integrated it is with Outlook and all the phone in meeting software and whatnot. I'd say dell is probably a bit like microsoft before it got taken over by marketing guys out of touch with everything. Their niche is business and the less glamorous corporate and productivity market now. They still sell to consumer but it's not their bread and butter anymore. Firewalls and refurbed desktops aren't sexy but there's a hell of a lot more business there than their alienware line.
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Only in Silicon Valley: Last night I ordered takeout delivered using OrderAhead. Everything went well, they had a jazzy Website that texted me when the order had been picked up, the food arrived reasonably hot. Later I got the customary satisfaction survey. It started with a notice that OrderAhead was hiring. quote:OrderAhead is hiring!
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Jun 16, 2016 17:25
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Literally the only people I know that use third-party delivery apps are in engineering or software development, so that's probably great marketing.
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Sounds like you want that indian takeout, but not badly enough to get an engineering degree and help make it happen. Millennials sheesh
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Jun 16, 2016 17:42
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In my area, more and more restaurants have an order page as part of their website that is serviced by a second-party delivery service. Instead of going to (say) Waiters on Wheels, you go to MyFavoriteIndian, type in an order, and Waiters on Wheels or OrderAhead or whatever does the actual pickup and delivery. Along the same lines, some restaurant web pages (ghastly Flash-based things) have links to OpenTable for reservations. e: also, I'm a disabled Boomer with a double major in CS and English. Bite me. 
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Jun 16, 2016 18:02
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Friend of mine once had an ad for engineer hiring show up in his Uber app. Not sure how they decided to show it to him, travel to tech industry related locations maybe?
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Jun 16, 2016 18:25
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Arsenic Lupin posted:In my area, more and more restaurants have an order page as part of their website that is serviced by a second-party delivery service. Instead of going to (say) Waiters on Wheels, you go to MyFavoriteIndian, type in an order, and Waiters on Wheels or OrderAhead or whatever does the actual pickup and delivery. Along the same lines, some restaurant web pages (ghastly Flash-based things) have links to OpenTable for reservations. Well, the order service thing is common because they're a restaurant, not a software developer shop. The PCI compliance requirements for handling credit cards are a pain in the loving rear end. Grubhub and the like have been around for quite a while and have a solid business model - we take those pains away in return for a cut. As for contracting the delivery... Why not I guess? Maybe there's some cost benefit or something, like they'd rather pay a fixed percent than hire a delivery guy directly. Or maybe the delivery guy is working for three different nearby stores and combining delivery?
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Jun 16, 2016 19:54
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If you don't do a lot of deliveries, having a delivery person on staff doesn't make sense. 3rd party delivery is one thing that makes a lot of sense.
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Paul MaudDib posted:As for contracting the delivery... Why not I guess? Maybe there's some cost benefit or something, like they'd rather pay a fixed percent than hire a delivery guy directly. Or maybe the delivery guy is working for three different nearby stores and combining delivery? nm posted:If you don't do a lot of deliveries, having a delivery person on staff doesn't make sense. 3rd party delivery is one thing that makes a lot of sense. Yep, contracting delivery to a larger entity makes so much sense for most businesses. You don't have to deal with absences, vehicle maintenance/failure, or variation in the amount of deliveries, so you are able to profit from a peak in demand much easier. The flexibility is probably the most important part, but not having to concentrate on things outside of your core business is big as well.
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Jun 16, 2016 20:40
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Gail Wynand posted:Friend of mine once had an ad for engineer hiring show up in his Uber app. Not sure how they decided to show it to him, travel to tech industry related locations maybe? People who don't live in Silicon Valley really have no idea what lengths they're going to for talent these days.
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It's going to be loving awesome when it all goes belly up and there's a bunch of unemployed engineers who can't afford the lifestyle they were promised when they chose CS in college.
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Tuxedo Gin posted:It's going to be loving awesome when it all goes belly up and there's a bunch of unemployed engineers who can't afford the lifestyle they were promised when they chose CS in college. Fortunately Uber can transition them all into great contracting jobs where they can set their own hours as drivers! 
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Jun 16, 2016 23:20
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My friend gets his dog massages but can't find anything to cut to fill his IRA for the year.
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Tuxedo Gin posted:It's going to be loving awesome when it all goes belly up and there's a bunch of unemployed engineers who can't afford the lifestyle they were promised when they chose CS in college. That's one of the reasons why I love Minneapolis, salaries are almost as high, you get to work on interesting things (medical devices, finance, SDS, SDN), awesome summers and for some reason people don't want to move here for jobs.
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Jun 16, 2016 23:39
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Mosquitoes?
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ShadowHawk posted:He may have used a coupon code provided at a tech conference. If they'd offer remote work for SV money, they'd find a lot more people 
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karthun posted:That's one of the reasons why I love Minneapolis, salaries are almost as high, you get to work on interesting things (medical devices, finance, SDS, SDN), awesome summers and for some reason people don't want to move here for jobs. I've been to Minneapolis in February. I know why people don't want to move there for jobs.
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Tuxedo Gin posted:It's going to be loving awesome when it all goes belly up and there's a bunch of unemployed engineers who can't afford the lifestyle they were promised when they chose CS in college. karthun posted:That's one of the reasons why I love Minneapolis, salaries are almost as high, you get to work on interesting things (medical devices, finance, SDS, SDN), awesome summers and for some reason people don't want to move here for jobs.
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Jun 17, 2016 00:06
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Yeah, I'm at a Michigan startup, and we don't pay anything like Silicon Valley money. On the other hand, the culture is quite a bit different, and my apartment is a ten minute walk from my office, and all sorts of other benefits.
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People who think their third tier market pays as well as Silicon Valley have no idea what compensation is like here, especially for people with experience or in-demand skill sets.
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blah_blah posted:People who think their third tier market pays as well as Silicon Valley have no idea what compensation is like here, especially for people with experience or in-demand skill sets. It's because Americans are stupid and refuse to talk about how much money they make, which literally only benefits employers
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rscott posted:It's because Americans are stupid and refuse to talk about how much money they make, which literally only benefits employers I once tried to nail down what I was making at a job in relation to my peers (and even subordinates sometimes) because I was pretty sure I was getting screwed on pay. I got yelled at real good by my boss for that. I was, of course, getting incredibly underpaid.
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rscott posted:It's because Americans are stupid and refuse to talk about how much money they make, which literally only benefits employers It's because you can get fired for doing this. Sure, that's illegal, but you'd actually have to get the Labor board to enforce it, and if you do you'll be blacklisted from your profession for the rest of your life.
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Halloween Jack posted:Mosquitoes? yes the place where water can't be liquid outside for 10 months out of the year has a mosquito problem
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Ratoslov posted:It's because you can get fired for doing this. Sure, that's illegal, but you'd actually have to get the Labor board to enforce it, and if you do you'll be blacklisted from your profession for the rest of your life. Meh I was able to get the clause covering talking about your wages removed from our employee handbook after printing out a copy of the Taft Hartley act and putting it on HRs desk. I know people stuck in retail hell wouldn't have much of a chance but if you're a skilled professional you have a lot more leverage.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:yes the place where water can't be liquid outside for 10 months out of the year has a mosquito problem Mosquitos are pretty much the state bird of every state in the upper midwest.
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rscott posted:It's because Americans are stupid and refuse to talk about how much money they make, which literally only benefits employers Actually yeah, I also think this is a pretty bad thing. If a friend makes twice as much as you it would be nice to know that up front when comparing yourself to them [financially]. Also more discussion of money would lead to better financial literacy in general. Related: Regulations that require top company salaries to be public may very well be helping to inflate CEO/executive salary.
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a foolish pianist posted:Mosquitos are pretty much the state bird of every state in the upper midwest. it's always hilarious when people who have never been to the south bitch about mosquitoes
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:yes the place where water can't be liquid outside for 10 months out of the year has a mosquito problem  Northern mosquitoes are actually way more aggressive exactly because they can only be active a couple of months a year. Which is what I found out when I made the mistake of just going on a hike to a nice Canadian forest without any bug spray in the summer and a mosquito bit me through my shirt. For reference, I grew up in the Middle East, and thought mosquitoes were a problem there.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:
Counterpoint: none of our mosquitoes have malaria. They're bastards but they won't give you horrifying diseases.
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blah_blah posted:People who think their third tier market pays as well as Silicon Valley have no idea what compensation is like here, especially for people with experience or in-demand skill sets. Yeah but if your rent is $3000 a month, how much are you really able to put away? It seems really crappy to have a high income as a W2 employee -- you get taxed like crazy, your rent is nuts, cost of living is generally high. It makes more sense to me to express compensation as a ratio of salary to cost of living. In mid tier cities, some people actually have the opportunity to afford homes and kids on single incomes. People can have a parent stay home with the kid. That alone is probably worth more than what a SF/SV salary can offer.
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neonnoodle posted:Yeah but if your rent is $3000 a month, how much are you really able to put away? It seems really crappy to have a high income as a W2 employee -- you get taxed like crazy, your rent is nuts, cost of living is generally high. It makes more sense to me to express compensation as a ratio of salary to cost of living. I got a two bedroom apartment with heat and water included for $975 a month. I think a lot of people are failing to consider that; money just doesn't go as far there. Personally I hear stories of people paying $800 to $900 a month for living situations like "pitching a tent on somebody's porch" or "living in a box in the living room" and respond with "yeah, how about no."
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blah_blah posted:People who think their third tier market pays as well as Silicon Valley have no idea what compensation is like here, especially for people with experience or in-demand skill sets. Glassdoor claims Minneapolis averages 78k for "Software Engineer" Sorry HP while San Francisco averages 110k. National average is, apparently, 95k. So Minneapolis people are getting screwed, but maybe cost of living makes up for it? I'm not sure comparable the averages are. For the Bay Area I suspect the distribution has a really long higher wage tail. fake e: I was beaten. Boot and Rally fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Jun 17, 2016 |
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