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Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Furnaceface posted:

Just how many loving people in this country are employed as realtors now?

hi im the Wolf of Sarnia

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peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
All Canadians who are not employed in "sports medicine" are now realtors

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
I got an ad from THE WOLF OF WHISTLER the other day on my Facebook feed telling me that it's a feeding frenzy out there, along with a picture of sharks, and that if I don't want to be priced out of the market forever I'd better buy now.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
In the deep sea of realty you're either a shark or a minnow and if you don't grab the bull by the horns you can't get off the tiger while the train has left the station.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Mozi posted:

In the deep sea of realty you're either a shark or a minnow and if you don't grab the bull by the horns you can't get off the tiger while the train has left the station.

Remember, what doesn't kill you makes you a deep-fried chimpanzee.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
Is this a church community center being sublet as lovely residential? For reals?

Meat Recital
Mar 26, 2009

by zen death robot

Furnaceface posted:

Just how many loving people in this country are employed as realtors now?

It's the biggest sector in BC's economy.

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

Rime posted:

Is this a church community center being sublet as lovely residential? For reals?



Church attendance is dropping, but they still need to pay the bills.

Honestly for a room in 8 bed at $500, a community center is probably going to be a hell of a lot nicer then 8 "bedrooms" in your typical flophouse.

Looks clean at least.

Lots of room for activities. Get some indoor soccer going on with your roomies!

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
Big or small I want your business :madmax:

Femtosecond
Aug 2, 2003

Meat Recital posted:

It's the biggest sector in BC's economy.

And BC has the best performing economy in Canada!

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
When the housing bubble implodes I'm pretty sure Winnipeg is going to be the only place with a functioning economy left in the country.

We still export things here. :smuggo:

Myriarch
May 14, 2013
Sorry CI - no rate hike.

http://reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0Z10DI

Shuka
Dec 19, 2000
I remember house shopping with my ex in vancouver 12 years ago and thinking "holy poo poo half a mil for half an acre eff that."

Despite my whining this is the best thread in d&d

Guest2553
Aug 3, 2012


Myriarch posted:

Sorry CI - no rate hike.

Boy, does the Fed know how to keep a fellow on the edge. CI NF won't be able to walk for a week after losing all that fluid once he does blow :flaccid:

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich
CI you're slipping. I thought you'd be all over this CBC article today

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/crea-may-house-price-1.3636024

quote:

The average price of a Canadian home sold in May was $509,460, a 13 per cent increase in the past year and the highest figure on record.

The strong gains are largely tied to hot markets in Ontario and British Columbia, according to the numbers released Wednesday by the Canadian Real Estate Association.

Stripping those two markets out of the calculations, the average price of a house sold in May declined 0.7 per cent in the past 12 months, and sold for $310,007 in May.

Lookit this sick rear end chart:



namaste friends!

jet sanchEz
Oct 24, 2001

Lousy Manipulative Dog
I think I mentioned that a friend of mine bought a house in the Beaches for $1.7 million in December and, obviously, it is a really nice house but it is super nice compared to the dump that is across the street from her that sold for $2.1 million this past weekend. The realtor that sold the $2.1 million house saw my friend working on her garden and asked her if she was interested in selling her house, saying she could get $2.3 million for it----that's 600 grand profit in 6 months.

It is really getting stupid out there.

Femtosecond
Aug 2, 2003

How long until a gang of realtors slashes the tires on this realtor's Audi for rocking the boat?

quote:

Evidence of Vancouver Real Estate Speculation Piling up

...

I went onto my Realtor’s MLS system to see what I could dig up. What I found even surprised me. I searched all the sold houses for Vancouver West detached homes for the month of May 2016. Here’s what I found:

Houses sold in May for Vancouver West: 179
Houses sold in May that were also sold within the last year: 28
Percentage of homes flipped for a profit: 15.6%
Average profit made per house flipped: $1,140,957.83

Here’s a good example of a home in South Granville, marketed as a tear down, bought and sold 4 different times over the past 2 years. No changes made to the home.

Sold Jan 2014- $5,088,000
Sold Nov 2014- $5,450,000
Sold July 2015- $6,380,000
Sold May 2016- $7,600,000



...

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

EvilJoven posted:

When the housing bubble implodes I'm pretty sure Winnipeg is going to be the only place with a functioning economy left in the country.

We still export things here. :smuggo:

Like what, racism?

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Arivia posted:

Like what, racism?

Hey now, Winnipeg isnt a one industry city. Clearly you forgot about its booming black fly export.

sbaldrick
Jul 19, 2006
Driven by Hate

EvilJoven posted:

When the housing bubble implodes I'm pretty sure Winnipeg is going to be the only place with a functioning economy left in the country.

We still export things here. :smuggo:

Ottawa will keep going because politics.

I should become the Timber Wolf of Ottawa and sell, sell, sell

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

He'll huff and he'll puff and he'll blow your house in Whistler down.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓ð’‰𒋫 𒆷ð’€𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 ð’®𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


My father in law is being harassed by realtors who say they won't even charge commission now. I guess they just want to sit on the property themselves?

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Winnipeg exports a ton of poo poo including the occasional Antonov AN-124 loaded with tractors headed to Russia. The vertical stabilizer on that thing is so loving tall I saw it from the river and biked up there super fast so I could watch it take off.

Why Russia imports tractors from Canada is beyond me but apparently it happens regular enough that they fill that big rear end plane up with farm equipment a handful of times a year and off it goes.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

EvilJoven posted:

Winnipeg exports a ton of poo poo including the occasional Antonov AN-124 loaded with tractors headed to Russia. The vertical stabilizer on that thing is so loving tall I saw it from the river and biked up there super fast so I could watch it take off.

Why Russia imports tractors from Canada is beyond me but apparently it happens regular enough that they fill that big rear end plane up with farm equipment a handful of times a year and off it goes.

Be careful around that thing, it blew a C172 over one time when it visited Calgary.

Meat Recital
Mar 26, 2009

by zen death robot
How does Montreal's housing market manage to avoid becoming like Vancouver and Toronto? It's a similar size to both, and a lot loving nicer.

Squibbles
Aug 24, 2000

Mwaha ha HA ha!

Meat Recital posted:

How does Montreal's housing market manage to avoid becoming like Vancouver and Toronto? It's a similar size to both, and a lot loving nicer.

It's protected by the Mafia like the biker's town in Sons of Anarchy

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Meat Recital posted:

How does Montreal's housing market manage to avoid becoming like Vancouver and Toronto? It's a similar size to both, and a lot loving nicer.

Incredible protections for renters and the fact that most people don't want to deal with some of the political situations there. Also, it has the worst loving winters on earth.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

PT6A posted:

Incredible protections for renters and the fact that most people don't want to deal with some of the political situations there. Also, it has the worst loving winters on earth.

Montreal winters are better than Ottawa ones, because after braving the stupid cold you're at least likely to end up somewhere interesting.

Femtosecond
Aug 2, 2003

Meat Recital posted:

How does Montreal's housing market manage to avoid becoming like Vancouver and Toronto? It's a similar size to both, and a lot loving nicer.

Foreign investors don't appear to be interested in learning French.

Ian Young from the SCMP, who does a lot of good research on Chinese property buying in Vancouver found that 89% of investor immigrants to Quebec ended up in the rest of Canada, with most heading to BC.

Setting the foreign investment factor aside I don't know because I don't know enough about the situation on the ground. I haven't visited for over a decade at this point, and all my local friends have moved on.

I'm under the impression that Montreal is more sprawling than Vancouver and Toronto. Is that true? More easily available supply could limit the emotional fear of missing out that is driving sales in Vancouver and Toronto.

PT6A brings up a good point about rental protection. That could be a factor. Landlord shenanigans could encourage people to try to buy their own condo, though those most affected by this bullshit are unlikely to have enough of a down payment to buy anything.

Here in Vancouver two of my friends were recently evicted because their place was supposedly to be renovated, and a few weeks later they spotted their old places up on Craigslist for an over 100% rental price increase. Neither are in the position to buy anything themselves.

yippee cahier
Mar 28, 2005

Femtosecond posted:

Here in Vancouver two of my friends were recently evicted because their place was supposedly to be renovated, and a few weeks later they spotted their old places up on Craigslist for an over 100% rental price increase. Neither are in the position to buy anything themselves.

Sounds like easy money in court to me.

Femtosecond
Aug 2, 2003

yippee cahier posted:

Sounds like easy money in court to me.

Yeah I raised that issue. I'm under the impression that there are rules in the Residential Tenancy Act around this exact situation and they'd be entitled to a few months of rent in compensation. From a brief conversation with my friend however it sounded like their situation didn't 100% match that scenario, like there is some loophole that their landlord exploited. I didn't really follow up asking for details because they luckily found a new place, moved on and they don't care to go through all the effort.

quaint bucket
Nov 29, 2007

Dawson Creek and Chetwynd are flooding. Chetwynd declared a state of emergency.

Great time to buy.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




quaint bucket posted:

Dawson Creek and Chetwynd are flooding. Chetwynd declared a state of emergency.

Great time to buy.

Waterfront property! Dont miss out before its gone!

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
I didn't see this posted yet:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/vancouver-plans-to-impose-tax-on-owners-of-vacant-homes/article30462327/

quote:

Vancouver plans to impose tax on owners of vacant homes

Vancouver’s mayor says the city will impose a tax on property owners who don’t live in their residences as part of an effort to make housing more affordable, but Gregor Robertson acknowledges his council will have to figure out a way to work around a provincial government that has rejected previous efforts to tax empty houses.

After months of demanding action from the provincial and federal governments on the affordability crisis, Mr. Robertson said Tuesday he has no faith that the province in particular will intervene. He said city staff are looking at all options, even if it means navigating around the province, which has jurisdiction over such a tax.

The mayor said the city wants access to an estimated 10,000 empty houses in Vancouver, a figure based on data that city staff released in March. But he didn’t say how high he thinks the tax would have to be to persuade those owners to rent out their houses.

Mr. Robertson also did not explain how the tax would work, saying he was waiting for staff to come up with a detailed plan.

As the cost of housing in Vancouver has skyrocketed and the rental market has been squeezed, speculation has grown over how much foreign investment is driving the price escalation. But Mr. Robertson’s plan would tax all homeowners who do not live in the properties they own, from overseas buyers to snowbirds from elsewhere in Canada. Mr. Robertson did not detail how much time owners would have to spend in their homes to avoid the tax.

“We would love to have thousands of those homes in the rental market right now when there’s almost no vacancy and a real crunch on affordable housing,” he said. “We’d like to see more supply created from the empty homes that are just sitting there in the city.”

Mr. Robertson said he expected a report from city staff in coming weeks on best options for proceeding with the plan.

“We’re looking at what we might be able to do here at the city without the province’s help. There might be more limited options,” Mr. Robertson told reporters at City Hall during a break in a council meeting.

The mayor set a tight timeline for action, saying it is “imminent” because council takes a break from the end of July to September.

A year ago, Mr. Robertson sent a letter to B.C. Premier Christy Clark asking the province for a tax on luxury housing and measures to fine property owners who do not live in the units they own. Ms. Clark rejected the requests and suggested the city could find solutions in better land-use planning.

A B.C. Finance Ministry statement issued Tuesday did not respond specifically to Mr. Robertson’s vacancy-tax proposal, but said the B.C. government is examining a broad range of policy choices to help British Columbians access “appropriate housing in the short term” and that a plan will be presented when that work is done.

“It’s good to see Vancouver is considering what action it can take within its authority,” the statement said.

One of three councillors representing the Non-Partisan Association party on the council dominated by Mr. Robertson’s Vision Vancouver party said the NPA is generally supportive of the vacancy-tax idea, contingent on the details, but skeptical about the mayor’s timeline.

“I’m not sure we will be able to move forward by summer break,” Melissa De Genova said. “This is a huge issue. It’s an issue that needs to be approached cautiously. We need to consider the ramifications.”

She said Mr. Robertson’s enthusiasm raises some questions. “If the mayor is fired up and ready to go, I question why he hadn’t moved forward on this sooner.”

She also said, speaking for her NPA colleagues, that there may be merits to a regional, as opposed to a City of Vancouver, approach.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
Their definition of vacant will preclude any house that has a cleaning service visit once a month to dust and run the water to keep the P traps from going dry from being taxed, nothing will be gained and five years from now it'll be illegal to be a resident of BC without a two million dollar mortgage because it's every citizens duty to keep the gears of the economy greased and moving.

Femtosecond
Aug 2, 2003

I always feel bad for the nameless "city staff" that have to do the work to fufill these vague and unworkable requests from city councilors.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Femtosecond posted:

I always feel bad for the nameless "city staff" that have to do the work to fufill these vague and unworkable requests from city councilors.

"I need a feel good populist measure that looks like I'm going after THEM for the housing situation, but I don't want anything that might actually affect housing prices in any way"

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Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
I mean, ultimately unless you're happy working for peanuts for the rest of your life or have a very specialized career, your choices are Vancouver or Leave BC, and the government is very much aware of this.

They aren't going to do jack poo poo to rock this boat, they know everyone is up against the wall without a choice.

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