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MattD1zzl3 posted:Wow thats a cool image with a cool story. I'm almost inclined to frame it. Is the cool story Vettel bottling his best chance of the season for a win? Because that's a pretty cool story.
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Exactly. It'll always be a reminder of his lack of literal killer instinct and that he's simply 4 times the fraud world champion as the others newey created.
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Jun 16, 2016 15:45
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I don't know if it's just that they are all on their payroll but most drivers are saying they like the track.
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I like to think of Vettel as the modern day Alboreto. On the right day with a good car he's world champion and/or race winner, but he's not an all time great.
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Jun 16, 2016 15:50
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Nando is the only all time great in the grid.
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Norns posted:Nando is the only all time great in the grid. I agree with that.
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Norns posted:Nando is the only all time great in the grid. by what metric? like who would you consider to be among the all time greats
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wicka posted:by what metric? like who would you consider to be among the all time greats Winning a title in a car not built by Adrian Newey?
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wicka posted:by what metric? like who would you consider to be among the all time greats Just call me a shitposter and get it over with already wicka. It's been a while anyway.
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Norns posted:Just call me a shitposter and get it over with already wicka. It's been a while anyway. no i'm legitimately asking not arguing. there's always a disconnect when people discuss "the greats" in any sport because some people consider that to be a super tiny group and others don't shitposter
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wicka posted:
Jesus christ get help, find anger management. You're going to hurt somebody 
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I think it's an intangible thing that is going to be impossible to nail down a consistent definition on. I consider Lauda a great not because he burned half his face off, but because he beat Prost in 84. I also consider Walter Rohrl to be one of the best racing drivers of all time even though he really didn't clean up much during his time in Group B.
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I consider Gilles Villeneuve a great because of his driving style. Homie did not take his foot off the throttle.
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Keep in mind I got into f1 in 2014. But I have read, and watched quite a lot of old seasons at this point. My top drivers in no particular order. Schumacher, Clark, Senna, Prost, Fangio, Alonso. Nothing surprising about my list. I'm not a big Senna guy though, and prefer Prost in that era, but raw tallent was off the charts. I'm sure my list will change over time. But with what I know, there it is. People on the grid with massive potential right now, but we need to see some seat shake ups I think. We've got clowns in magic cars with way more podiums than they should have...including Sebs Newey wins. And I love the guy.
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Riso posted:Winning a title in a car not built by Adrian Newey? Winning both titles in a car that wins GPs even when it's being driven by Fisichella.
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George Zimmer posted:I consider Gilles Villeneuve a great because of his driving style. Homie did not take his foot off the throttle. Gilles and Keke were the last of the old school "pick the car up by the scruff of the neck and force it to do a lap" type drivers. I think Mansell had tested the FW09 and said it was nearly undrivable. Juuu posted:Winning both titles in a car that wins GPs even when it's being driven by Fisichella. His status of as a great comes largely from dragging that burning garbagebin of a Ferrari within a hair of the title in 2012, along with his entire stint there.
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1500quidporsche posted:Gilles and Keke were the last of the old school "pick the car up by the scruff of the neck and force it to do a lap" type drivers. I think Mansell had tested the FW09 and said it was nearly undrivable. Nigel was a very physical driver himself, it must be said. I think you had to be that way with the Ground Effect cars.
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Prost is the best driver of the modern-ish era. Schumacher is close but overall I think Prost's competition was better.
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Hey guys we finally got a lap of the circuit that's not from a video game and has all the barriers installed http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/video/2016/6/Exclusive_-_the_Medical_Car_takes_us_on_a_lap_of_Baku.html
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Norns posted:Nando is the only all time great in the grid. I think you are forgetting about Daniel "Best Driver" Ricciardo.  [edit]FYI, that site won't load correctly if you are connected to a VPN or have Privacy Badger set to "maximum paranoia" MustardFacial fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Jun 16, 2016 |
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Speaking of bad Aussies. Who else is watching Le Mans?
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I am. It looks like it is going to start making GBS threads rain.
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I'll probably have it on in the background.
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I may miss the ending and Baku. I'm undecided if I'm entering the kart race on Sunday.
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It's cool seeing all the former reject F1 drivers. Shinji Nakano is there!
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F1 should go on a three break around the 24 and let their driver compete in it if they want. It would be good for the sport to see Alonso out there for instance if he wants to do it. gently caress stupid FIA politics
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My desire to be a cheapass is outlasting my desire to watch LeMans. I really don't want to pay 9 whole European Fun Bucks to watch this.
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El Hefe posted:I don't know if it's just that they are all on their payroll but most drivers are saying they like the track. They do that for all the new tracks, Bernie tells them to do it
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Goetta posted:F1 should go on a three break around the 24 and let their driver compete in it if they want. It would be good for the sport to see Alonso out there for instance if he wants to do it.
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El Hefe posted:I don't know if it's just that they are all on their payroll but most drivers are saying they like the track. List of tracks most drivers say they like: Monaco Valencia Hungary Baku
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Nando's race engineer once described watching him race as " like a controlled explosion from the moment the visor goes down". Nando is awesome.
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Jenson could not give any less of a poo poo and is calling it like it is. http://www.crash.net/f1/news/231308/1/unimpressed-button-raises-baku-runoff-concerns.html
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El Hefe posted:I don't know if it's just that they are all on their payroll but most drivers are saying they like the track.
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1500quidporsche posted:His status of as a great comes largely from dragging that burning garbagebin of a Ferrari within a hair of the title in 2012, along with his entire stint there. And for very nearly beating a rookie teammate.
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Bring back Brands Hatch. gently caress Baku
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keevo posted:Hey guys we finally got a lap of the circuit that's not from a video game and has all the barriers installed That pit entry is loving stupid due to that's the fastest part of the track, and the exit is equally stupid as its literally after a corner with almost no area for the drivers to get up to speed. Never mind the fortifications, this track is a loving disaster.
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Looks fantastic imo What a great race weekend we have ahead of us lads
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Didn't somebody mention the track was going to come apart too? This is literally going to be like Dallas and I'm going to love it.
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ukle posted:That pit entry is loving stupid due to that's the fastest part of the track, and the exit is equally stupid as its literally after a corner with almost no area for the drivers to get up to speed. You could say the same about the pit entry in Brazil and maybe Canada. 1500quidporsche posted:Didn't somebody mention the track was going to come apart too? This is literally going to be like Dallas and I'm going to love it. Ah I'm bummed I'm gonna miss this live. 
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keevo posted:You could say the same about the pit entry in Brazil and maybe Canada. The issue isn't just its the fastest part of the track its that its very short, so short it has a chicane so drivers will have to go down to <100 mph before they enter it. Reading up on it that chicane actually counts as part of the track and doesn't have the pit speed limiter applied, even more chance for someone to complete gently caress it up - and if they do that will be a red flagged race.
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