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Fat Shat Sings posted:So yeah they just broke down and are monetizing long term insurance. Spergs will want some "Just in Case" and want multiple copies just to cover their armada of poor decisions they've already bought. Some will justify it as "Well I missed LTI on this $900 autism chariot, so $35 is perfectly reasonable to cover it forever!" x 100,000 I think the p-72 or whatever was another cheapie with LTI. People loaded up on those like a six pack of beer. This is another knife in the gray market.
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Fat Shat Sings posted:So yeah they just broke down and are monetizing long term insurance. Spergs will want some "Just in Case" and want multiple copies just to cover their armada of poor decisions they've already bought. Some will justify it as "Well I missed LTI on this $900 autism chariot, so $35 is perfectly reasonable to cover it forever!" x 100,000 They've done it before, this is the cheapest though $35, the reliant or something was $50 and had LTI. Sale is going to be interesting, I thought they'd make 2-3 million on the reliant but it was far lower. Even Citizens get wise to the same scam after a while but LTI appeal has so far lasted since 2012. Colostomy Bag posted:I think the p-72 or whatever was another cheapie with LTI. People loaded up on those like a six pack of beer. Actually you might be right, I sorta stopped being so OCD about the ships when it hit 100+.
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:47 |
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How long till Borg cube?
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:48 |
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AP posted:They've done it before, this is the cheapest though $35, the reliant or something was $50 and had LTI. Sale is going to be interesting, I thought they'd make 2-3 million on the reliant but it was far lower. Even Citizens get wise to the same scam after a while but LTI appeal has so far lasted since 2012. I foresee a lot of melting of non-lti ships to fund quite a few spacecycles.
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:48 |
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What was their excuse to keep selling LTI after nov 2013? Or did they not even bother with any excuses?
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:49 |
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AP posted:When they say token they really mean ship/bike whatever. CIG lets you change a ship into another ship (most of them don't exist in any form anyway so why not?) if you give them more money. If the jpg has LTI then the upgraded thing has LTI too. This is because LTI is incredibly rare and they promise to stop selling it in November 2013. Thoatse posted:1. You buy one or more of these 'cheap' ships when they're released as a concept and comes with lti as pledgebait. So they can't just buy this ship and melt and stick the insurance on a ship they already have in their hangar, they have to buy a new ship with the store credit from this one?
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:50 |
Danakir posted:What was their excuse to keep selling LTI after nov 2013? Or did they not even bother with any excuses? I know the answer to this! It's the second one.
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:51 |
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Danakir posted:What was their excuse to keep selling LTI after nov 2013? Or did they not even bother with any excuses? Hopefully someone can find that infamous Lesnick post that describes this.
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:51 |
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Fat Shat Sings posted:So yeah they just broke down and are monetizing long term insurance. Spergs will want some "Just in Case" and want multiple copies just to cover their armada of poor decisions they've already bought. Some will justify it as "Well I missed LTI on this $900 autism chariot, so $35 is perfectly reasonable to cover it forever!" x 100,000 Not sure why so many folk are calling this one cheap; they also did this for $20 a while back with the Archimedes snub fighter thing.
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Fat Shat Sings posted:So yeah they just broke down and are monetizing long term insurance. Spergs will want some "Just in Case" and want multiple copies just to cover their armada of poor decisions they've already bought. Some will justify it as "Well I missed LTI on this $900 autism chariot, so $35 is perfectly reasonable to cover it forever!" x 100,000 I always warned that CIG would monetize via insurance. But, my warnings required the game to be released. CIG has learned to monetize LTI before there is even a game to play. Also, LOL, CIG just copied Bungie.
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:52 |
Wafflz posted:So they can't just buy this ship and melt and stick the insurance on a ship they already have in their hangar, they have to buy a new ship with the store credit from this one? No, you buy what's called a "cross-chassis upgrade." So say for example you wanted a Starfarer but missed out on the LTI. You buy one of these, then when it gets put in the hangar/made flyable you can go into a special tab on CIG's website and upgrade it to the ship you want by paying the difference, thereby keeping your LTI
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Wafflz posted:So they can't just buy this ship and melt and stick the insurance on a ship they already have in their hangar, they have to buy a new ship with the store credit from this one? Ding ding. Or they could melt their ship and buy it back when a sale hits. Of course the ship will be more expensive than what they originally bought it for. Man, CIG makes Amway look inept.
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:52 |
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I like this one a lot more, if only because it reminds me of the speeder bikes from Return of the Jedi. Plus it's a stupid loving gimmick to have the bits retract a tiny bit. Either have them move to a radically new position, or don't loving move at all. It's like Chris just said "I want the wings to move *waves arms* like this! Just make it look cool!" and this piece of poo poo was born.
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:54 |
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Wafflz posted:So they can't just buy this ship and melt and stick the insurance on a ship they already have in their hangar, they have to buy a new ship with the store credit from this one? I think you would just melt both ships in that case, and rebuy the one you wanted lti on. If it were a limited sale ship like a Super Hornet though, you would have to wait until it was on sale again before being able to do it.
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:55 |
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Beet Wagon posted:No, you buy what's called a "cross-chassis upgrade." Yeah that's what i said, they can't just stick the insurance on a ship in their hangar, they have to spend more money. Holy gently caress these people are dumb.
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:56 |
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In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only square boobs
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:57 |
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What does lti do?
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:57 |
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:
Star Citizen: Not even the tip
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:58 |
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Before MoMA appears and tries to say that the "Drake Pipeline means it will be flyable this year" someone please find where Ben or whoever said that no more ships would be in the PU past the vanguard or whatever back when they admitted they need to release a product and can't have never ending concepts be promised upon release of the PU. It wasn't when Chris Roberts said "Minimum Viable Product" which is related, but Ben or someone directly stated that a certain ship was the stopping point for the PU release and everything else had a release date of "After the PU"
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:58 |
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Beet Wagon posted:No, you buy what's called a "cross-chassis upgrade." Is there any reason for the process to be this obfuscated and needlessly byzantine aside from trying to conceal how scummy and predatory the whole thing is? Cause I can't come up with anything.
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:58 |
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I mean obviously nothing because lol this game won't ever be a real game but what's it meant to do?
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:58 |
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Maw posted:What does lti do? I know the answer to this one. Nobody knows!
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:58 |
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Atreiden posted:In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only square boobs Good to see the kickstarter belt made it in game.
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:58 |
Maw posted:What does lti do? As of right now? Nothing. In some weird alternate future where SC actually gets made? Saves you some IGC every month on keeping your ship insured, making it so you can never permanently lose your $800 Shitwagon
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 21:59 |
Danakir posted:Is there any reason for the process to be this obfuscated and needlessly byzantine aside from trying to conceal how scummy and predatory the whole thing is? Cause I can't come up with anything. I know the answer to this one! Nope. Well, maybe. It's possible they were too stupid to think up a less retarded system, if you count that as a reason.
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 22:00 |
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Maw posted:What does lti do? It's got what plants crave
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 22:01 |
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Holy poo poo, it was bugging me what these space mowers reminded me of. They're just the drat Sparrows from Destiny, except, y'know you gotta spend real money on it. Instead of getting your free one from playing the first 30 minutes of the game. Destiny did a lot of things wrong, but drat if they haven't cut more content from a complete game than CiG has released for their broken one
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 22:02 |
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Um....what did....ya whoah did ehp did eh woh did
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 22:04 |
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Beet Wagon posted:As of right now? Nothing. Aha wait so in theory if this game was made you could crash whatever the cheapest ship was into some guys hundreds of dollars worth of ship and it'd be gone forever? I changed my mind this game is the best
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 22:05 |
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:
That looks like a mixture between a Colonial Viper and a pod racer. What the hell?
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 22:05 |
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Maw posted:I changed my mind this game is the best No it felt wrong and weird to say that
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 22:05 |
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The kicker with the LTI was how it was to suck in people to pledge early. "We will stop offering LTI, so back now to be safe."
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 22:05 |
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Fat Shat Sings posted:Before MoMA appears and tries to say that the "Drake Pipeline means it will be flyable this year" someone please find where Ben or whoever said that no more ships would be in the PU past the vanguard or whatever back when they admitted they need to release a product and can't have never ending concepts be promised upon release of the PU. If anyone other than Chris said it; they're just best guesses and they don't know for sure, certainly not promises by any stretch. If Chris himself promises it, well game development is a fickle mistress and things change all the time. What can you do?
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 22:06 |
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Lime Tonics posted:Good to see the kickstarter belt made it in game. But those it look better and last longer? or do I need to get it with LTI?
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 22:08 |
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Thoatse posted:Not sure why so many folk are calling this one cheap; they also did this for $20 a while back with the Archimedes snub fighter thing. To be honest I can no longer keep track of all the fake things they are selling. After the point of ridiculousness (100+ ships that don't exist) I start losing track. After awhile it boils down to things like "The news van that is stupid with nonexistant mechanics" "The giant blade ship, that is just dumb from every angle" "The ship billed as a sleek macross like transforming ship that just has a minor cosmetic change and disappointed spergs" "The mining ship that is so stupidly designed it wouldn't ever be practical even in a game" "The giant fuel tanker, with walkways directly under engines, wait why have a giant fuel tanker? Are ships run on diesel / liquid fuel? It's 2942 for fucks sake" "The ambulance? Ship? I think?" "The only original idea" "The space motorcycle" etc etc etc etc Much less the prices of each. I don't even remember a snub fighter at this point.
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 22:09 |
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That S2 engine is pretty sweet though. A lot of people don't know it, but the S2 uses a really neat cooling system that utilizes the fluid properties of ambient air to cool the engine. This frees up the mount for the stone-age cooler of the S "old man" 1 and allows for Ammo Can 2. I think as players start to see more and more NPCs cruising with S2s it will catch on. The NPCs will have a pretty ground breaking AI, but when the creative minds of individual Citizens start benchmarking the new S2 engines we will all be pretty astonished IMHO. What do you think, homies? Think I got the chops for
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# ? Jun 16, 2016 22:10 |
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CIG literally did polls to see which ships potential whales wanted first, and made those jpegs first, but they made all the other jpegs anyway while the whales were giving them money for the ones voted the most, we will continue to see meaningless polls about which jpegs backers want the most, the reality is CIG is going to make every ship they ever talk about, and sell them to people, before there is ever an option to buy the ship with aUEC or other in-game method. The fact that they are selling second and third place voted ships from concept polls before even working on ships they sold people 4 years ago is literally the definition of a scam.
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Photoshop request: The new space mower changed to John Deere green with logo and the 'Nothing Flies Like A Deere' slogan. TIA
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