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Riptor
Apr 13, 2003

here's to feelin' good all the time

Combed Thunderclap posted:

To be fair to Massachusetts the person running against the Republican in the last gubernatorial election was Martha Coakley, who didn't seem to realize that she was running for the governor of Massachusetts and not some other state during her campaign.

yeah Coakley is to blame for both Scott Brown and Charlie Baker. It's mostly due to her ineptitude that both those people gained office. Baker's popularity is quite high but I think AG Maura Healey, or representatives Kennedy, Capuano, or Moulton, or Newton mayor Setti Warren could beat him in 2018

Combed Thunderclap posted:

My impression of the situation is that MA is the kind of state that will vote the GOP into office if they really want to stick it to the Dem candidate and/or the Dem candidate really screws up. It's still a liberal state, just not a Vote Dem Every Time state like NY or California.

You mean California, the folks who elected Schwarzenegger?

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Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



Riptor posted:

You mean California, the folks who elected Schwarzenegger?

...yes. :ninja:

That's actually a great example of how moderate those Republicans tend to be, we can boggle at :mitt: but Governor Mitt and Candidate Mitt were basically completely different people.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


ComradeCosmobot posted:

I think someone got tired of looking at the Yodatars. :shrug:

Not enough apparently.

Yoshifan823 posted:

I'm a huge fan of Not Cory Booker. As long as our VP is Not Cory Booker, I'll be satisfied.

Yeah not a fan of him either. Warren is good but I'd rather her in the senate.

Bizarro Watt
May 30, 2010

My responsibility is to follow the Scriptures which call upon us to occupy the land until Jesus returns.
California could easily elect another Republican senator (once Feinstein retires) or governor, but the state GOP is having a hard time restructuring itself to be more accessible to voters or just putting in the effort. However, with (popular) Jerry Brown term-limited, the governor seat could be up for grabs considering that the Democratic candidate will likely be Gavin Newsom.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

Riptor posted:

You mean California, the folks who elected Schwarzenegger?

I mean he did have his moments.

https://www.wired.com/2009/10/schwarzenegger/

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Combed Thunderclap posted:

...yes. :ninja:

That's actually a great example of how moderate those Republicans tend to be, we can boggle at :mitt: but Governor Mitt and Candidate Mitt were basically completely different people.

If anything it should be yet another exhibit as to how a governor behaves has zero connection to their potential presidential behavior.

Anchor Wanker
May 14, 2015

9/10,would fly behind my pickem'up truck

Shirec
Jul 29, 2009

How to cock it up, Fig. I


Oh......oh. :smith: It's really sad that there were two seperate men that would think that was ok to say. I feel like the terrible statements about rape have dropped off recently but I'm sure Trump or some poo poo-heel governer (McCrory :argh:) will surprise me

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Bizarro Watt posted:

California could easily elect another Republican senator (once Feinstein retires) or governor, but the state GOP is having a hard time restructuring itself to be more accessible to voters or just putting in the effort. However, with (popular) Jerry Brown term-limited, the governor seat could be up for grabs considering that the Democratic candidate will likely be Gavin Newsom.

You're forgetting they run a jungle primary. General elections are going to be Democrat vs. Democrat for the foreseeable future

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

You're forgetting they run a jungle primary. General elections are going to be Democrat vs. Democrat for the foreseeable future

I feel like this is a recent change for Cali, isn't the first time Feinstein could face a Democrat opponent the election she happens to be retiring?

Heck Yes! Loam!
Nov 15, 2004

a rich, friable soil containing a relatively equal mixture of sand and silt and a somewhat smaller proportion of clay.

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

You're forgetting they run a jungle primary. General elections are going to be Democrat vs. Democrat for the foreseeable future

The State GOP couldn't even get a candidate to 10% support in the latest primary. As far as governors go, there's little chance of the GOP taking it. As hated as Gavin Newsom is, he will easily win whoever he runs against.


https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_Senate_election_in_California,_2016

The Rokstar
Aug 19, 2002

by FactsAreUseless

Shirec posted:

Oh......oh. :smith: It's really sad that there were two seperate men that would think that was ok to say. I feel like the terrible statements about rape have dropped off recently but I'm sure Trump or some poo poo-heel governer (McCrory :argh:) will surprise me

I lived in Indiana for 20+ years. "Bobby Knight says horrible terrifying poo poo" is just kind of one of those universal truths, like water is wet or bears have a fondness for bowel movements in the woods.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

RuanGacho posted:

I feel like this is a recent change for Cali, isn't the first time Feinstein could face a Democrat opponent the election she happens to be retiring?

Boxer (the good senator from CA) is the one retiring this year and it's a fairly recent change, although Feinstein did have to go through the jungle primary for 2012 but a republican was who came in second.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

You're forgetting they run a jungle primary. General elections are going to be Democrat vs. Democrat for the foreseeable future

Not necessarily. All the state-wide races in 2014 were R vs D because the Republicans were able to get behind a single candidate. That wasn't the case this year though. They basically diluted their vote across four or five candidates where the Democrats effectively backed Harris, IIRC.

And of course the opposite could happen too: if Dems dilute vote but Republicans are relatively behind only two candidates, we could see R vs R. We were less than 1% of the vote away from that in the 2014 state controller race because of a third Democrat (and a Green) spoiling a tight race between two other Democrats, but Republicans had only two choices.

ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Jun 17, 2016

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

A Winner is Jew posted:

Boxer (the good senator from CA) is the one retiring this year and it's a fairly recent change, although Feinstein did have to go through the jungle primary for 2012 but a republican was who came in second.

Nuts, maybe we'll be rid of her next time. Though with her behavior it doesn't surprise me a Republican would have a chance at her seat, she's obviously not suffering far left pressure.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

RuanGacho posted:

Nuts, maybe we'll be rid of her next time. Though with her behavior it doesn't surprise me a Republican would have a chance at her seat, she's obviously not suffering far left pressure.

On the bright side she's 82, so this is probably her last term anyway.

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011
Honestly we should change Ted Cruz's word filter to "The Zodiac Killer" because otherwise it's too obvious and less funny

edrith
Apr 10, 2013
There are Orlando truthers on my Facebook.

:(

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

edrith posted:

There are Orlando truthers on my Facebook.

:(

You can change that my friend.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Trump got a call from Brian May telling him to stop using We are the Champions at his rallies.

He's using Ride of the Valkyries instead.

Hitler's favorite song.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

Luigi Thirty posted:

Trump got a call from Brian May telling him to stop using We are the Champions at his rallies.

He's using Ride of the Valkyries instead.

Hitler's favorite song.

And Daniel Bryan's. Coincidence?

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

Luigi Thirty posted:

Trump got a call from Brian May telling him to stop using We are the Champions at his rallies.

He's using Ride of the Valkyries instead.

Hitler's favorite song.
I love the smell of spray-tan in the morning.

Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!


BROCK LESBIAN posted:

And Daniel Bryan's. Coincidence?

Hm. Both have silly facial hair, both can get crowds on their side, and both had their livelihoods ended by shots to the head. Sounds right.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Luigi Thirty posted:

Trump got a call from Brian May telling him to stop using We are the Champions at his rallies.

He's using Ride of the Valkyries instead.

Hitler's favorite song.

Brünnhilde lights herself on fire at the end

We could be so lucky

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Combed Thunderclap posted:

To be fair to Massachusetts the person running against the Republican in the last gubernatorial election was Martha Coakley, who didn't seem to realize that she was running for the governor of Massachusetts and not some other state during her campaign.

My impression of the situation is that MA is the kind of state that will vote the GOP into office if they really want to stick it to the Dem candidate and/or the Dem candidate really screws up. It's still a liberal state, just not a Vote Dem Every Time state like NY or California.

A [viable] Republican in MA (or CT or RI) is basically just a centrist Democrat who runs on a tax cut/balanced budgets platform. They used to pay lip service to the fossilized old Catholics with their social platform in years past, but these days they're pretty much strictly fiscal in their messaging when they aren't running to replace somebody embroiled in scandal.

The unfortunate truth is that there's enough of a history of corruption and cronyism in local MA/CT/RI politics that the parties essentially take turns being in peoples' good graces in some parts.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
Oh God he's going full Howard Dean

No Butt Stuff
Jun 10, 2004

Dexo posted:

Oh God he's going full Howard Dean

What.

WHOOPS
Nov 6, 2009

Probably referring to Bernie conceding.

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
Mostly a joke he talked about a 50 state strategy.

This is a real good speech tho he's talking about how all of his fans need to get involved in politics and run against these Republicans.

Maoist Pussy
Feb 12, 2014

by Lowtax
Bernie's fans on twitter seem to be reminding him that the point was to run against the Democrat.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Luigi Thirty posted:

Trump got a call from Brian May telling him to stop using We are the Champions at his rallies.

He's using Ride of the Valkyries instead.

Hitler's favorite song.

Why is everything always so wonderful?

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

Dexo posted:

Mostly a joke he talked about a 50 state strategy.

This is a real good speech tho he's talking about how all of his fans need to get involved in politics and run against these Republicans.

He isn't wrong. It was a good (hopefully) final campaign speech.

Maoist Pussy
Feb 12, 2014

by Lowtax
The hashtag #WTFBernie is an entertaining compendium of GOP-lite liberals worried that Cornel West and Bernie's insidious socialist tax schemes could ruin the election for Hillary.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Maoist Pussy posted:

The hashtag #WTFBernie is an entertaining compendium of GOP-lite liberals worried that Cornel West and Bernie's insidious socialist tax schemes could ruin the election for Hillary.

Yeah I was a little amazed at the invective directed at West (e.g. Keeping it 1600 basically described him like a terrorist).

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Trabisnikof posted:

Yeah I was a little amazed at the invective directed at West (e.g. Keeping it 1600 basically described him like a terrorist).

Keeping it 1600 is stupid and for stupid people.

Shirec
Jul 29, 2009

How to cock it up, Fig. I

I know Slate is not a shining star all the time, but they had an interesting article up, interviewing a cast member from the Apprentice. I was reminded of what Prester Jane said earlier as well, hope this wasn't posted earlier.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/06/apprentice_crew_members_on_their_old_boss_donald_trump.html

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
Curry and Green already have a foul each 2 minutes in, the fix is in :getin:

edit: whoops, kind of the wrong thread

Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Jun 17, 2016

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
I love that we now live in a world where even if the Republicans come crawling to the honorable Ted Cruz of Texas, all he's going to do is whisper "NO". While everyone else was bending knee, Cruz was transitioning God's Inerriable Plan from the truth of a 2016 nomination to 2020 nomination. By packing all those delegates, he now controls large swaths of the apparatus that will be determining not only the platform for this year but how the system will be tweaked for next time. While the establishment is desperate to prevent another Trump, his operatives will be creating the optimal delivery system for Canada's glorious reimagining of the 1814 burning of the White House. He's already wrapping himself in the mantle of Reagan and setting the stage for a "told you so" tour. The only hope for the Republican Party is that Hillary sweeps the map and quickly puts them out of their misery before they even realize what happened.

I wonder many Super PACs are being set up by the Democrats to do their best to get Johnson into the hearts of voters in Utah, Kansas, and other such states.

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

Trabisnikof posted:

Yeah I was a little amazed at the invective directed at West (e.g. Keeping it 1600 basically described him like a terrorist).

West is pretty dumb as hell tho.

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Huzanko
Aug 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
Why would anyone want Warren to be VP, a useless ceremonial position?

Huzanko fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Jun 17, 2016

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