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Codependent Poster posted:It's really kind of dumb that Gotham is so much worse when Metropolis is like, right across the bay. Does Superman not go out of the city limits? It wouldn't be anything for him to take care of both cities.
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I would counter that if I'm a dirty cop and I get heat visioned, any amount of heat vision, I'm going straight. I'm not loving around with a guy who has laser eyes.
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Jun 16, 2016 23:21
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Toxxupation posted:There is literally no excuse that DC has for not doing recap pages, especially when they devote a good fifth to third of each issue to awkward-as-gently caress and overwrought recap-as-internal narration. Zero. None. It's actually kind of baffling they haven't copied that, considering how much else they've tried to copy from them over the years.
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Jun 16, 2016 23:25
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Aphrodite posted:I would counter that if I'm a dirty cop and I get heat visioned, any amount of heat vision, I'm going straight. You gotta figure Bats does drat near the same thing though, right? Like you'd also quit fuckin around if you got a Batarang to the nose. Codependent Poster posted:It's really kind of dumb that Gotham is so much worse when Metropolis is like, right across the bay. Does Superman not go out of the city limits? It wouldn't be anything for him to take care of both cities. Batman specifically tells him not to do that a lot. I think it's about escalation.
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Jun 16, 2016 23:33
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Codependent Poster posted:It's really kind of dumb that Gotham is so much worse when Metropolis is like, right across the bay. Does Superman not go out of the city limits? It wouldn't be anything for him to take care of both cities. Professional courtesy. Batman is a sad man. Let him have his dirty, broken and corrupt city.
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Jun 16, 2016 23:41
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Clark tried to help out during No Man's Land. He hauled in huge shipments of food and supplies... ...which were immediately seized and distributed among the gangs, and sold among the hapless citizenry at a vicious mark-up. He's a little too naive to actually tackle Gotham's problems. Gotham criminals deal with a kung-fu boogeyman dressed up like Dracula breaking their legs and appearing seemingly by magic in their lairs and homes and they still go out and rob banks and sell heroin, they're not going to be spooked by a stern dad wrapped in primary colors who drinks a glass of milk at every meal and is in bed by 9:30 every night.
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Jun 16, 2016 23:44
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Maybe the Flash could do it, he'd basically make them all feel like jackasses. They pull a gun and suddenly they're tied up in their underwear. During no man's land he would just distribute everything himself.
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Jun 16, 2016 23:50
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Codependent Poster posted:It's really kind of dumb that Gotham is so much worse when Metropolis is like, right across the bay. Does Superman not go out of the city limits? It wouldn't be anything for him to take care of both cities. That's just in BvS. The comics usually depict them as several hours away.
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Jun 16, 2016 23:53
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Rhyno posted:That's just in BvS. The comics usually depict them as several hours away. Not for Superman.
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Jun 16, 2016 23:54
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Well they are both supposed to be New York, but I've always pictures then as New York and Boston.
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Jun 16, 2016 23:54
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Gotham is Chicago if Chicago were in New Jersey.
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Jun 16, 2016 23:57
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JoshTheStampede posted:Not for Superman. Like he gives a poo poo. Mr Hootington posted:Well they are both supposed to be New York, but I've always pictures then as New York and Boston. Metropolis was based on Cleveland.
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Jun 16, 2016 23:57
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I always heard Metropolis was supposed to be Toronto.
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Jun 16, 2016 23:59
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I always thought New York and Chicago. Apparently its New York and New Jersey though perhaps New York and Baltimore would be more apt.
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Jun 16, 2016 23:59
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SonicRulez posted:You gotta figure Bats does drat near the same thing though, right? Like you'd also quit fuckin around if you got a Batarang to the nose. Batman can only move so fast, and for a comparison New York has over 40000 cops. If you keep your head low you can get away with being dirty around Batman for quite a while. He's not going to go after the cop taking kickbacks when Riddler is threatening to blow up Wayne Tower if Batman doesn't go on The Price is Right and unmask himself while also winning the double Showcase.
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Jun 16, 2016 23:59
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Really? Huh. Checks out with googling. They have just turned into "New York" over the years.
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Jun 17, 2016 00:00
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Travis343 posted:I always heard Metropolis was supposed to be Toronto. Siegel was from Cleveland, Shuster from Toronto so it's gone back and forth a bit. In the films I think Metropolis is NYC and Gotham is Jersey.
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Jun 17, 2016 00:01
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Gotham is Bad City, Metropolis is Good City. Gotham has LA gangs next to New York and Chicago mobs driving down DC streets past New England architecture along the Baltimore waterfront with a shitload of European gargoyles for some reason. Metropolis is art deco happy hope times, in contrast.
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Jun 17, 2016 00:25
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Green Lanterns desperately needs a new artist for me to not automatically dislike it. This week's issue isn't as bad as the GL: Rebirth issue's art, but the artist is still a really bad choice for a book that costars a female character.
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Jun 17, 2016 00:27
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Squizzle posted:Gotham is Bad City, Metropolis is Good City. Gotham has LA gangs next to New York and Chicago mobs driving down DC streets past New England architecture along the Baltimore waterfront with a shitload of European gargoyles for some reason. Actually, Opal City is the Art Deco one.
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Jun 17, 2016 02:32
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I always assumed the reason people stayed in Gotham was because having a major Justice League founder operate out of your city is a major tourist attraction so people stay to cash in on that thriving business. The constant supervillain attacks sucks but imagine what you could make selling "authentic" battarangs to dumb tourists from Metropolis!
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Jun 17, 2016 02:37
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I always assumed living in Gotham 'made sense' only when you try to look at the large scale reality of living in the DC Universe. I mean, even within the compacted New 52 timeline, Gotham got taken over by the Riddler and turned into a weird post-industrial hellscape, it got set on fire by a barrage of crazy zombie One Percenters who secretly run the entire city, then another secret cabal blew up most of the city and destroyed the police department from within and set dozens of skyscrapers burning, then the Joker killed a few thousand people to gently caress with Batman, then the Joker turned everyone still alive into crazy maniacs who killed each other (after making crazy maniac Justice League pummel the poo poo out of the city, then someone mind-controlled all of the teenagers in the city and made them try to kill everyone else, then someone turned into a giant plant monster and infected thousands of people and knocked over a bunch of buildings and etc. But on the other hand, around the world there were extinction level events happening every other week, entire cities and nations being wiped off of the map, etc. At least in Gotham the murder rate is only like 1 in 12, you could gently caress up and move to Bludhaven and just straight up get nuked.
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Jun 17, 2016 02:51
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Living in Gotham makes no sense but neither does living in Detroit. Some people can't afford to move or they've lived there for 6 generations.
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Jun 17, 2016 02:54
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Is star city not a thing anymore? Why is Ollie just in Seattle now?
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Jun 17, 2016 03:01
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greatn posted:Is star city not a thing anymore? Why is Ollie just in Seattle now? Then the pit that in the shape of a star turns into a forest that is really just Black Lantern Swamp Thing building up the power to destroy the planet, eventually though they stop that and I think the forest burns down but maybe Swamp Thing was going to restore the forest but then Dr Manhattan took all of the love out of this old idyllic universe so we'll never know what became of Star City. After Dr. Manhattan stole ten years of love and laughs from the DC Universe, Star City hasn't existed and Green Arrow has always been based in Seattle, except for once or twice when people forgot.
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Jun 17, 2016 03:08
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Edge & Christian posted:I always assumed living in Gotham 'made sense' only when you try to look at the large scale reality of living in the DC Universe. Yeah statistically you might get beat up and mugged and you might know someone who gets pop-crimed but if you live in Metropolis before too long someone is going to throw a huge robot gorilla through your windshield.
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Jun 17, 2016 03:10
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Travis343 posted:Yeah statistically you might get beat up and mugged and you might know someone who gets pop-crimed but if you live in Metropolis before too long someone is going to throw a huge robot gorilla through your windshield. Coast City is the exception that proves the rule, and if you're protected by a b-lister then you're in danger, as the tale of Star City shows. If there is no superhero at all, you could be Montevideo or Topeka or Fakeistan and just straight up be genocided.
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Jun 17, 2016 03:17
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On the other hand if you live south of the border you will be safely ignored by everyone 
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Jun 17, 2016 03:26
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:On the other hand if you live south of the border you will be safely ignored by everyone Superman will show up to make a frowny face at some point, which is pretty cool.
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Jun 17, 2016 03:30
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Codependent Poster posted:It's really kind of dumb that Gotham is so much worse when Metropolis is like, right across the bay. Does Superman not go out of the city limits? It wouldn't be anything for him to take care of both cities. Woah woah woah, don't base Gotham's geographical location from BvS Gotham has always been a ways off from Metropolis. Like a few states either north or to the west near the great lakes. And if Superman regularly did lay down the law in Gotham he wouldn't be able to handle how truly hosed up Gotham is what with the super psychopaths, ancient secret societies, abundance of regular psychopaths. Mentally he'd break and then you'd just have Injustice Superman all over again.
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Jun 17, 2016 03:34
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Wasn't there some kind of official DC tie-in thing that shows Gotham in New Jersey and Metropolis in Delaware? I know I've seen pictures of it before. EDIT: This was years ago before the movies and New 52 stuff.
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Jun 17, 2016 03:38
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X-O posted:Wasn't there some kind of official DC tie-in thing that shows Gotham in New Jersey and Metropolis in Delaware? I know I've seen pictures of it before. There have been several and they all contradict each other.
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Jun 17, 2016 04:02
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I like to think that Gotham is one of the largest cities in Massachusetts. Maybe made up of Essex, Ipswich, Arkham and Innsmouth?
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Jun 17, 2016 04:28
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Gotham is near Springfield.
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Jun 17, 2016 04:39
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JoshTheStampede posted:Living in Gotham makes no sense but neither does living in Detroit. Some people can't afford to move or they've lived there for 6 generations. Detroit really needs more super heroes. Got plenty from Detroit, but they never stick around to clean up the neighborhood.
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Jun 17, 2016 04:44
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Die Laughing posted:Detroit really needs more super heroes. Got plenty from Detroit, but they never stick around to clean up the neighborhood. They had an entire Justice League!
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Jun 17, 2016 04:46
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Gotham is near Springfield. I'd be ok with the idea of Gotham existing in multiple places at any given time like some sort of quantum city. Hell that would probably still make it one of the more mundane places to live in DC.
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Jun 17, 2016 04:46
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Endless Mike posted:They had an entire Justice League! And look how that ended.
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Jun 17, 2016 04:52
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Die Laughing posted:Detroit really needs more super heroes. Got plenty from Detroit, but they never stick around to clean up the neighborhood. Detroit had RoboCop. What more do you need?
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Metropolis is close enough to Smallville to work there while living in Smallville.
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