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Die Hard 2 is fun and alright, and JJ Abrams has made good movies and bad movies. More Donald Glover is always appreciated.
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Neurolimal posted:More Donald Glover is always appreciated. I mean yeah, but what does that have to do with anything?
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Jun 11, 2016 18:43
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Die Hard 2 takes John McClane, Dennis Franz, John Amos, and an intentionally crashed airliner full of civilians and somehow makes a boring movie where half the audience doesn't even know what the bad guys wanted. A mediocre, forgettable movie on its own but they had to call it a sequel to Die Hard back before anyone realized that was a bad thing. At least Deep Blue Sea had a solid Executive Decision maneuver to build itself around.
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Jun 11, 2016 19:06
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deep blue sea absolves renny harlin of all his filmmaking sins, whatever they might be. abrams hasn't come close
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Jun 12, 2016 03:23
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Homework Explainer posted:deep blue sea absolves renny harlin of all his filmmaking sins, whatever they might be. abrams hasn't come close Truth. I mean, I really like Star Trek and Super 8, and MI-3 and Force Awakens are all right, but Renny Harlin made Deep Blue Sea, The Long Kiss Goodnight, Cliffhanger. Come on.
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Jun 12, 2016 04:26
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I feel like we're down to two lines of thought on TFA: 1) "TFA is just fine, and that's fantastic" 2) "TFA is just fine, and that's discouraging"
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Jun 12, 2016 05:08
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Toilet Mouth posted:I feel like we're down to two lines of thought on TFA: I still think it's great.
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Jun 12, 2016 05:35
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Neurolimal posted:I still think it's great. The last great Star Wars movie was Empire Strikes Back. Every one after has varied from "Okay" to "Good". The Force Awakens isn't considerably better than the prequels, the flaws are just in different aspects so people don't notice.
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Jun 12, 2016 06:50
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I like Super 8 way more than Die Hard 2, but comparing them feels really weird.
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Jun 12, 2016 07:23
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MonsieurChoc posted:The last great Star Wars movie was Empire Strikes Back. Every one after has varied from "Okay" to "Good".
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Jun 12, 2016 07:45
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Cardboard Box A posted:Star Trek was a pretty good Star Wars movie. Still not great! Yes, I am being a pedant about this. 
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Jun 12, 2016 07:54
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Now that I think about it, what is JJ's obsession with having his protagonists chased by terribly-designed CG monsters? Like Kirk gets chased in Star Trek, Rey and Finn get chased in TFA, Super 8 has one that maybe at one point chases the kid who for some reason makes it a sad one and convinces it to leave. Why is this a well he keeps going back to
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Jun 12, 2016 08:37
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The Cameo posted:Now that I think about it, what is JJ's obsession with having his protagonists chased by terribly-designed CG monsters? Because after MI-3 he can't find anything that runs as well as Tom Cruise so he needs to resort to CGI.
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Jun 12, 2016 08:40
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Homework Explainer posted:deep blue sea absolves renny harlin of all his filmmaking sins, whatever they might be. abrams hasn't come close Deep Blue Sea is basically my datum line for movies. Every movie better than it is good and every movie better than it is bad. It is the middle. In one movie.
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Jun 12, 2016 16:17
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The Cameo posted:Now that I think about it, what is JJ's obsession with having his protagonists chased by terribly-designed CG monsters? It's funny because the ice monster chase scene in Star Trek is basically just the "Always a bigger fish" scene from The Phantom Menace except set on Hoth.
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I have a random question, maybe someone here can help. For some reason Dengar is having a comeback, and I was wondering if anyone knew why? He seems like a random throwaway background character but he's now been added to Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes and the Battlefront games, and he's also in a new lego set. Is he gonna be in one of the new movies or something?
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Jun 14, 2016 08:08
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Dengar was in TFA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etwJnVBHy9c
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Jerkface posted:Dengar was in TFA that mummy gently caress was in TFA?
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Jun 14, 2016 08:27
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Actual Dengar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5HMUAlxkws
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Jun 17, 2016 06:10
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Finally, that mummy gently caress is in a videogame.
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No mummy loving way
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PBS Newshour posted:No mummy loving way YAWRE GUNNA TAKE A DIRT NAHP!
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General Dog posted:I feel like we're down to two lines of thought on TFA: TFA is a fantastic movie and up there with the Empire Strikes Back. The people who continually pretend otherwise just to be edgy have broken brains.
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Jun 17, 2016 06:22
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TFA is a watchable movie but a terrible sequel.
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I never imagined Dengar has having a dirt-British accent. I always imagined him sounding like Ray Romano. It made him a bit endearing.
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I said come in! posted:TFA is a fantastic movie and up there with the Empire Strikes Back. The people who continually pretend otherwise just to be edgy have broken brains. Seriously? You don't think there are a pretty wide range of legitimate opinions about TFA? You really think the overall consensus is that its about equal to Empire Strikes back, one of the most beloved sci fi films of all-time? You really believe everyone who thinks TFA is a pretty good, but ultimately forgettable movie is just bullshitting because they're trying to be edgy? That's a lot of question marks but your post is completely baffling to me.
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Basebf555 posted:Seriously? You don't think there are a pretty wide range of legitimate opinions about TFA? I didn't say that, I just think most of them are painfully wrong.
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So did you ever figure out what in TFA was new to Star Wars and cinema in general? As it is, it's just a duller rehash of ANH.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:So did you ever figure out what in TFA was new to Star Wars and cinema in general? Yeah, so as good as "Empire Strikes Back" is accurate.
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Shanty posted:Yeah, so as good as "Empire Strikes Back" is accurate. ESB isn't a duller rehash of ANH.
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Normal people - not something awful users - haven't even thought about TFA since approximately 2 weeks after it was released. I just had to do a google search to remember the characters' names and how their arcs left off.
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I said come in! posted:I didn't say that, I just think most of them are painfully wrong. Well if that wasn't your intended meaning, your sentence was worded very poorly. You said "people who pretend otherwise just to be edgy". So how can you tell if someone honestly thinks TFA was just ok, versus someone who's pretending just to be edgy?
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TFA is another JJ Abrams "product"; perfectly acceptable, professionally done, containing nothing new or original, quickly forgotten, and papering over story flaws and questions he can't be bothered to answer with breathless pace and his loving Mystery Box bullshit. That's my edgy and broken-brained opinion of TFA.
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You just didn't pay attention the plot. The story is perfect. I mean i'm sorry Abrams didn't make a movie where you guys couldn't take more screen grabs where you could draw red lines on them, but that's not really a reason to dismiss the film. It's amazing 6 months later that people who hate this movie are still posting daily about it.
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It was pretty good and I look forward to Star War 8 through 100.
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Please do not troll Bravest Lamp who doesn't know what reboots are.
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Payndz posted:TFA is another JJ Abrams "product"; perfectly acceptable, professionally done, containing nothing new or original, quickly forgotten, and papering over story flaws and questions he can't be bothered to answer with breathless pace and his loving Mystery Box bullshit. That's my edgy and broken-brained opinion of TFA. I still can't get over the fact that TFA features an actual, literal mystery box which, upon being opened by the protagonist, bombards the audience with a series of obscure images teasing plot developments in future installments.
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Cnut the Great posted:I still can't get over the fact that TFA features an actual, literal mystery box which, upon being opened by the protagonist, bombards the audience with a series of obscure images teasing plot developments in future installments. Between that and BvS's "gently caress it, here's the justice league trailer" I hope we don't start to see a trend.
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I said come in! posted:You just didn't pay attention the plot. The story is perfect. I mean i'm sorry Abrams didn't make a movie where you guys couldn't take more screen grabs where you could draw red lines on them, but that's not really a reason to dismiss the film. It's amazing 6 months later that people who hate this movie are still posting daily about it. This thread's been pretty dead for a while. The only time it gets going again is when people start talking about the prequels and the originals again. There has been very little substantive discussion of TFA since its release, because there's just not that much to discuss. It's a very shallow, surface level movie which doesn't do anything terribly unique or interesting cinematically. This does not mean it's a bad movie. It's just not what some of us were looking for in a Star Wars movie. All the criticisms of TFA here have been pretty tempered and mild, all things considered (especially in comparison to what certain other films have endured over the years). As far as I can tell, no one's even gone so far as to call it straight-up bad. TFA was a box office smash and got almost universally positive reviews from critics and audiences. There's really no reason to be so defensive.
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