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EBB
Feb 15, 2005

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

well, thats still hosed up, but at least it wasnt a suicide :unsmith:

I'm not seeing that as a silver lining here.

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CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

I'm not seeing that as a silver lining here.

I dont know, at least they didn't kill themselves out of soul crushing loneliness so maybe you don't have to see yourself as being a bad friend or w/e

it's a stretch I'll admit, but suicide is like the saddest death to me if that makes sense

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

I dont know, at least they didn't kill themselves out of soul crushing loneliness so maybe you don't have to see yourself as being a bad friend or w/e

it's a stretch I'll admit, but suicide is like the saddest death to me if that makes sense

It is. Ive lost 3 friends to it and almost my brother :negative: My brother at least tried in a metal as gently caress way. Got wasted on cheap vodka on his 18th birthday, slit his wrists and when my mom found him lying in blood and started to bandage him up (she's a nurse) he looked her dead in the eyes and said "I loving hate you" and then passed out.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

Soulex posted:

Jesus man. That's hosed.


On a McNally type of fuckery, it seems that my ERB is now missing ALL of my awards. What the ever loving gently caress...

Is there any possible way that bullshit army awards could possibly be worth a poo poo in the real world? like a purple heart or something? No? Then gently caress that poo poo, go home and crack a beer.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

not caring here posted:

Is there any possible way that bullshit army awards could possibly be worth a poo poo in the real world? like a purple heart or something? No? Then gently caress that poo poo, go home and crack a beer.

Purple heart is the only one that I know of.

And it's only like free car tags and parking stuff.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

spacetoaster posted:

Purple heart is the only one that I know of.

And it's only like free car tags and parking stuff.

MoH, obviously!

Also Indiana hooks it up:

quote:

A person who entered active duty from a permanent home address in Indiana, received the Purple Heart Medal and received an honorable discharge, is eligible to pay the resident tuition rate at a state supported college or university and, if otherwise possesses the requisite academic qualifications, is entitled to Tuition and Fee Exemption for 124 semester credit hours. If the student receives financial aid through any other source, the remission of fees is adjusted accordingly. Reference IC 21-14-10 for complete details and criteria.

Spacman
Mar 18, 2014
That thing is the ultimate letter from the Army saying you can't Army anymore.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
I had a soldier who had the funniest loving profile. He gets back from an appointment with his slip, which said nothing unsurprising. It was in an opened envelope with an unsigned hand written message that said words to the effect of "Soldier may be slightly drowsy from medication for duration of prescription (several weeks). Allow him to choose his work hours and to sleep when he wants. He should not be made to do anything against his will as he may be sleepy."

I call the doctor thinking the soldier wrote that himself. Nope! Doctor essentially asks if he really needs to use official paperwork and "look, this Soldier is a real pain, why not just let him hang out in his room and play video games all day? He asked me to write him a profile saying he didn't have to do anything."

When he was awake and walking around if you asked him to do anything at all, he would collapse in a heap and say the drowsiness was washing over him.

We came to a slight semblance of an accord when he stopped calling IG and wandering off on his own and I stopped sending him to the hospital when he'd feign a collapse.

It was a good day when he got shipped home after his chapter packet went through. He missed a connecting flight on his way home and called CQ for help and they told him that in civilian life you have to be able to figure out an airport all by yourself.

Kung Fu Fist Fuck
Aug 9, 2009

Mr. Nice! posted:

Delzin is the dudes name and he used to be a poster here. IIRC he got hosed up bad when the driver of his vehicle fell asleep and flipped it while they were deployed or during a field ex or something. hosed up his nerves or something and put him in a really bad situation where he was hosed with until he got his "no army allowed" profile.

100% sure that delzin is the dude with that profile, hes got the panda hanging from a telephone pole av. but the dude that got hosed up in a rollover was not caring here

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

The 1SG is supposed to be aware of all profiles in the unit. Last month they tried to get me to take a PT test despite me being on profile. The first sergeant flipped her poo poo and demanded to know why I skipped out. When I pointed out that she should have already been tracking that, she informed me that I should have had my profile on me at all times anyway, despite profiles no longer being filled out by hand.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

psydude posted:

The 1SG is supposed to be aware of all profiles in the unit. Last month they tried to get me to take a PT test despite me being on profile. The first sergeant flipped her poo poo and demanded to know why I skipped out. When I pointed out that she should have already been tracking that, she informed me that I should have had my profile on me at all times anyway, despite profiles no longer being filled out by hand.

It's crazy, but I still keep copies of my profile everywhere just in case i need to produce it.

Nobody has bothered to look at my profile in years. They just look at me and go "Yep. This guy is walking the PT test."

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Yeah, people say keep it on you. I don't and if they ask why I just say HIPPA

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

I had a white guy in my unit get a shaving chit once, he pretty much had to keep it in hand at all times for the beard he rocked. Dummy got the chit by getting poison ivy on his face.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

EVA BRAUN BLOWJOBS posted:

I had a white guy in my unit get a shaving chit once, he pretty much had to keep it in hand at all times for the beard he rocked. Dummy got the chit by getting poison ivy on his face.

Quick, somebody do the rubbing face guy with some leaves.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
I'm just laughing at the idea of telling the 1SG "shouldn't you know I have a profile?" And expecting that to go well even if the 1SG was dumb.

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

100% sure that delzin is the dude with that profile, hes got the panda hanging from a telephone pole av. but the dude that got hosed up in a rollover was not caring here

Appreciate the correction my pot addled brain keeps up with only so much o7

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

mlmp08 posted:

I'm just laughing at the idea of telling the 1SG "shouldn't you know I have a profile?" And expecting that to go well even if the 1SG was dumb.

What's she going to do, go tell on me to my rater? The senior enlisted personnel in my unit thought it would be a great idea to have the soldiers put up a GP large during chow time after spending all day on the range because the sergeant major wanted it. So much for taking care of your soldiers and following the training schedule.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

psydude posted:

What's she going to do, go tell on me to my rater? The senior enlisted personnel in my unit thought it would be a great idea to have the soldiers put up a GP large during chow time after spending all day on the range because the sergeant major wanted it. So much for taking care of your soldiers and following the training schedule.

Training schedules, like regulation and the UCMJ, are really just suggestions.

FIDEL CASHFLOW
Oct 13, 2009

psydude posted:

following the training schedule.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:

100% sure that delzin is the dude with that profile, hes got the panda hanging from a telephone pole av. but the dude that got hosed up in a rollover was not caring here

Heh, I didn't realize that it was in reference to me.

Yeah, I got what I thought was the king of profiles until delzin dropped his p bomb. I still had to wear a uniform.

all apologies
May 13, 2008

woah

spacetoaster posted:

I have my first group therapy this week for ptsd. I'm wondering what it will be like.

I've been avoiding going...been out a year and things have gotten worse. So I think I am going to give it a try as well. Try to network somewhat or some poo poo

all apologies fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Jun 18, 2016

all apologies
May 13, 2008

woah

mlmp08 posted:

It was a good day when he got shipped home after his chapter packet went through. He missed a connecting flight on his way home and called CQ for help and they told him that in civilian life you have to be able to figure out an airport all by yourself.

Kinda hosed up but I knew a poo poo ton of NCOs like that. Their actions showed me what not to do as a NCO.

all apologies fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Jun 18, 2016

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

all apologies posted:

I've been avoiding going...been out a year and things have gotten worse. So I think I am going to give it a try as well. Try to network somewhat or some poo poo

Well, they had a bunch of groups that I could choose from. Guys nearish to my age. Guys and girls. A group specifically for anger management. Etc, etc.

I'll probably be doing individual counseling too as the guy knows how brains work and can help me work towards goals (like not having civilians slowly edge away from me).

The drug route is there too. It kinda freaked me out that the lady doctor gave me a menu of drugs to research and see if I wanted to try them.

I asked her what happens once Soldiers with PTSD get on these drugs and she says "They say thank you." :colbert:

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

all apologies posted:

Kinda hosed up but I knew a poo poo ton of NCOs like that. Their actions showed me what not to do as a NCO.

Nah, I stand by that CQ. They did ask "have you even tried talking to the desk agent?" and when he said no told him to maybe try that and hung up. When we checked with the airline the next morning, the kid had been ticketed and flown home. The soldier was the worst example of getting all pissy and punching walls and making a scene because I'M AN ADULT and then immediately floundering and losing his poo poo and being unable to do basic things like dress himself or walk to the DFAC to get his own food or show up for any of his appointments on time without being handwalked all of 300 meters over there by an NCO, all the while complaining that he's a big boy and he can get to his appointments on his own.

The kid legit has mental issues, IMO, so I shouldn't just poo poo all over him, but he was a real pain in the rear end to have around.

He was basically this except somehow even less capable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
That's a pro watch

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

not caring here posted:

That's a pro watch

hope the new movie is good

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
It was definitely very okay. A solid 7/10. I'd watch it again, but only after it's out on video.

To relate, if I were on another internetless, dvd-less deployment, it would be in the top 50 files I'd gank from somebody's drive. But if I only had enough time to grab 20 before leader's call, no. Hot Rod would make top 20 though.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

Hot Rod is great. Best movie I ever got that I didn't know about was Stranger Than Fiction. Technically not a comedy with Will Ferrel but it was cool to see him do something didferent

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Hot Rod is the best poo poo. Pop Star owned if only for the bin laden and not gay song.

Delizin
Nov 9, 2005

It may not be interracial, but it is black and white.
I'm still around (and alive for the most part), just never posted a ton. I got that profile when all of the automatic parts of my nervous system got hosed up suddenly. It started with a ton of chest pain as I was getting to the last mile of a Friday unit run, but figured it was probably nothing and kept going. After that it felt like my heart was hiccuping for the whole weekend afterwards. The next Monday I couldn't even make it half a mile without falling out. Tuesday I went into sick call and they did an EKG and told me to go to the post hospital for a chest x-ray. I told the doctor that my unit banned us from driving on post since someone had a DUI a couple days back, so I'd have to walk there get the x-ray and walk back. So a few miles to the hospital, got the xray and came back to find the clinic had closed. I was on the night shift so I went on to work after that.

I showed back up at the clinic the next day and the doctor told me that she was up all night worrying that I had "croaked in the night" (her words). Lady had my cell phone number, my office number, my unit and my unit's phone number, but did not call anyone. Apparently my EKG, the same EKG she looked at before having me walk to the hospital, was really hosed up and I was told to go the ER immediately. Spent a few days in the hospital getting a workup, but they didn't find anything conclusive. My wife and I would sit around watching my heart miss nearly every other beat on the heart monitor. The cardiologist they sent to "examine" me literally just walked into the room, told me I was too young to have a heart problem and left. After that they discharged me with a diagnosis of 'chest pain' and gave me a print out for acid reflux.

The Army hosed with me for like two years while I was getting worse calling me a malingerer and implying that somehow I was faking my heart not beating right and up to 140 bpm while sitting. Eventually I was able to piece together enough evidence myself to figure out a couple of likely causes and I went to the patient advocate and the commander of the hospital and pressured them into letting me see a cardiologist. I showed the cardiologist everything I had and he did some tests and confirmed that it actually was one of the two rare conditions I had found. He didn't know how to treat it so I got sent TDY across the country to some civilian specialists who verified the diagnosis and gave me some preliminary treatment before I got recalled back to post to continue treatment under Army guidelines, which promptly through out half of their treatment guidelines.

The issue is that all of the automatic functions of my nervous system break whenever I am upright. So my veins don't contract properly which causes my blood to pool into my lower extremities. My brain senses this and floods my body with adrenaline to make my heart pump faster to get blood back to my brain. It also messes up my short term memory and other cognitive functions pretty bad if I am up for too long.

My MEB took years to finish and during the last year and a half or so, the civilian doctor in charge of the MEB wrote me that profile after reviewing my medical records. Part of it was due to my limitations and part of it was to keep me from being hosed with. For the last part of my time I stopped showing up to anything related to the unit. I didn't know who my commander or 1SG were and couldn't have picked them or their names out of a line up. I liked my real job and the people I worked with so I still showed up to section office and worked for a few hours each day.

Ended up getting hosed by the VA. They don't have anything like my condition in their big book for ratings and they kept picking conditions completely unrelated to it as an "analogous" condition. First they gave me 10% for it as tachycardia, then after years of appeals it finally went up to 30% as a heart condition and then the rest as "depression" and various little things, but it ended up coming to 100% so my VA rep told me to just stop fighting and go with it.

Now that I am out, I've been seeing civilian doctors who still don't really know how to treat me, but as long as I take it really easy and don't do too much at once I can still kind of function. Can't really work or do anything active, but I can at least go to the store or see friends and family for a few hours out of the day.

So, that's the story behind the profile. Also the AV is panda's loving.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Reading that made me so angry.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
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psydude posted:

Reading that made me so angry.

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer

psydude posted:

Reading that made me so angry.

gently caress the loving army, gently caress everyone in it, double gently caress that cardiologist and basically all army doctors, and gently caress the loving VA. gently caress.

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]

psydude posted:

Reading that made me so angry.

Obstacle2
Dec 21, 2004
feels good man

Mike-o posted:

gently caress the loving army, gently caress everyone in it, double gently caress that cardiologist and basically all army doctors, and gently caress the loving VA. gently caress.

Recruiters ought to be charged with a crime.

sky shark
Jun 9, 2004

CHILD RAPE IS FINE WHEN I LIKE THE RAPIST

Delizin posted:

I'm still around (and alive for the most part), just never posted a ton. I got that profile when all of the automatic parts of my nervous system got hosed up suddenly. It started with a ton of chest pain as I was getting to the last mile of a Friday unit run, but figured it was probably nothing and kept going. After that it felt like my heart was hiccuping for the whole weekend afterwards. The next Monday I couldn't even make it half a mile without falling out. Tuesday I went into sick call and they did an EKG and told me to go to the post hospital for a chest x-ray. I told the doctor that my unit banned us from driving on post since someone had a DUI a couple days back, so I'd have to walk there get the x-ray and walk back. So a few miles to the hospital, got the xray and came back to find the clinic had closed. I was on the night shift so I went on to work after that.

I showed back up at the clinic the next day and the doctor told me that she was up all night worrying that I had "croaked in the night" (her words). Lady had my cell phone number, my office number, my unit and my unit's phone number, but did not call anyone. Apparently my EKG, the same EKG she looked at before having me walk to the hospital, was really hosed up and I was told to go the ER immediately. Spent a few days in the hospital getting a workup, but they didn't find anything conclusive. My wife and I would sit around watching my heart miss nearly every other beat on the heart monitor. The cardiologist they sent to "examine" me literally just walked into the room, told me I was too young to have a heart problem and left. After that they discharged me with a diagnosis of 'chest pain' and gave me a print out for acid reflux.

The Army hosed with me for like two years while I was getting worse calling me a malingerer and implying that somehow I was faking my heart not beating right and up to 140 bpm while sitting. Eventually I was able to piece together enough evidence myself to figure out a couple of likely causes and I went to the patient advocate and the commander of the hospital and pressured them into letting me see a cardiologist. I showed the cardiologist everything I had and he did some tests and confirmed that it actually was one of the two rare conditions I had found. He didn't know how to treat it so I got sent TDY across the country to some civilian specialists who verified the diagnosis and gave me some preliminary treatment before I got recalled back to post to continue treatment under Army guidelines, which promptly through out half of their treatment guidelines.

The issue is that all of the automatic functions of my nervous system break whenever I am upright. So my veins don't contract properly which causes my blood to pool into my lower extremities. My brain senses this and floods my body with adrenaline to make my heart pump faster to get blood back to my brain. It also messes up my short term memory and other cognitive functions pretty bad if I am up for too long.

My MEB took years to finish and during the last year and a half or so, the civilian doctor in charge of the MEB wrote me that profile after reviewing my medical records. Part of it was due to my limitations and part of it was to keep me from being hosed with. For the last part of my time I stopped showing up to anything related to the unit. I didn't know who my commander or 1SG were and couldn't have picked them or their names out of a line up. I liked my real job and the people I worked with so I still showed up to section office and worked for a few hours each day.

Ended up getting hosed by the VA. They don't have anything like my condition in their big book for ratings and they kept picking conditions completely unrelated to it as an "analogous" condition. First they gave me 10% for it as tachycardia, then after years of appeals it finally went up to 30% as a heart condition and then the rest as "depression" and various little things, but it ended up coming to 100% so my VA rep told me to just stop fighting and go with it.

Now that I am out, I've been seeing civilian doctors who still don't really know how to treat me, but as long as I take it really easy and don't do too much at once I can still kind of function. Can't really work or do anything active, but I can at least go to the store or see friends and family for a few hours out of the day.

So, that's the story behind the profile. Also the AV is panda's loving.

If we ever have a va / military medical thread this needs to be in the op

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones
Add this and McNally's stuff.

gently caress the Army, gently caress the VA.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

psydude posted:

Reading that made me so angry.

Soulex
Apr 1, 2009


Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

How in the gently caress can you ban driving?

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Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Why didnt you call the post shuttle or even a cab? If one of my units would have tried to tell me I couldn't take the shuttle to the hospital for chest pain i would've told them to gently caress off.

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