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That was a weird post that I don't understand, so I'd instead like to thank you for talking about DADT. It was good to read about, and I would enjoy hearing you expand more if you feel like it. The Clintons fill me with mixed emotions for a lot of reasons, but in terms of LGBT stuff they seem to generally on the right side of history. Sometimes though, one of the other will make bafflingly tone-deaf statements. That thing where Hilary suggested that Nancy Reagan was involved in changing the conversation about AIDS at her funeral this spring really pissed me right the gently caress off. She later recanted, and I suppose it comes with the territory of being a minority, but it is incredibly frustrating nonetheless. also this https://twitter.com/meakoopa/status/742238554093281280 Octatonic fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Jun 18, 2016 |
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Octatonic posted:That was a weird post that I don't understand, so I'd instead like to thank you for talking about DADT. It was good to read about, and I would enjoy hearing you expand more if you feel like it. Not much to tell. The most insidious thing about DADT was that you couldn't talk to anyone in a official capacity -- not even a shrink. My supervisor noticed I was depressed/down in the dumps and made me go to the base shrink (who was a civilian). The very first thing this guy tells me is that there are like three things that he has to report to my commander: if I've attempted suicide, if I'm beating my wife/kids, or if I'm homosexual. So since I can't actually tell this dude what's bothering me, I made up some story about being stressed at work. I was lucky in a way, I was older (early-20's), had been out before I enlisted so I was comfortable with who I was, and I had an extremely supportive family that was just a phone call away. Despite all that, it took a toll that (as I mentioned) I'm still trying to unpack. I said I'm lucky because I distinctly remember talking down some 18 year old kid via loving adam4adam who wanted to kill himself because he couldn't jive how he was feeling with his religious upbringing and the bullshit 'integrity first' mantra that's part of being indoctrinated into the service. I sure as hell wasn't equipped to deal with that but what the hell else was I supposed to do? This kid couldn't talk to anyone about how he was feeling without basically being kicked out of the service.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:I'm shocked that that known contrarian-poster and QCS superstar the insect court has taken up a contrarian position in a thread in D&D. I find the implication that the Obama FDA is filled with secretly bible-thumping homophobes to be a questionable one. Doubly so when there are perfectly sensible reasons arising from well-regarded mainstream statistical epidemiology as to why the deferral period should remain in place. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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There just has to be some reason the status quo is the best thing possible right?
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The Insect Court posted:I find the implication that the Obama FDA is filled with secretly bible-thumping homophobes to be a questionable one. Doubly so when there are perfectly sensible reasons arising from well-regarded mainstream statistical epidemiology as to why the deferral period should remain in place. Who's called them 'secretly bible-thumping homophobes', though? Literally who? We've said they're behind the times, and ignorant, and yea probably a bit bigoted, but I don't think the fuckin head of the FDA is screaming about JAYZUS healing all the queers of their faggotry or whatever. I think it's just a group of old straight people who are still in an AIDS panic mentality about 'well jeepers better safe than sorry with those queers'.
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The Insect Court posted:I find the implication that the Obama FDA is filled with secretly bible-thumping homophobes to be a questionable one. Doubly so when there are perfectly sensible reasons arising from well-regarded mainstream statistical epidemiology as to why the deferral period should remain in place. I'd say you're deliberately misrepresenting what other people are saying since I don't think anyone is saying that but that's your loving gimmick so whatever. So I'm sticking with my "oh look the insect court is being contrarian -- again" stance. Just go away please. Nostalgia4Infinity fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Jun 18, 2016 |
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The Insect Court posted:I find the implication that the Obama FDA is filled with secretly bible-thumping homophobes to be a questionable one. Doubly so when there are perfectly sensible reasons arising from well-regarded mainstream statistical epidemiology as to why the deferral period should remain in place. Starting to see why you have a redtext, b-hay.
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Jun 18, 2016 06:28
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Happy Pride Month, Russia! http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/07/opinion/the-art-of-reading-russian-obituaries.html?_r=0
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Otteration posted:Happy Pride Month, Russia! They have let widespread bigotry turn into a free pass to kill anyone indiscriminately? Seriously?
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Wooten posted:They have let widespread bigotry turn into a free pass to kill anyone indiscriminately? Seriously? Yeah that's how russia works pretty much.
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Otteration posted:Happy Pride Month, Russia! Now I'm starting want another Bolshevik revolution, but with homosexuals and other brutalized minorities. It probably won't end well, but when has anything Russian ever had a happy ending?
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Jun 18, 2016 06:46
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Just go away please. Except from the entire forum hopefully. He constantly shits up the I/P thread with his stupid garbage as well.
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Ran Mad Dog posted:Note to straight people posting here in the future: Take note of the last few pages, and just don't mention that you're straight and you won't have bigots jumping down your throat at first opportunity. lol
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Also my city's Pride parade/festival are happening tomorrow and I'm volunteering all day and won't get a chance later, so Happy Pride to all of you beautiful queer idiots! ❤💛💚💙💜
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:I'd say you're deliberately misrepresenting what other people are saying since I don't think anyone is saying that but that's your loving gimmick so whatever. So I'm sticking with my "oh look the insect court is being contrarian -- again" stance. RagnarokAngel posted:Seriously there's no good excuse except "gays icky ". There are certainly posters suggesting that the existence of the 12-month deferral period is a matter of homophobia. How is that anything other than a suggestion that the FDA(and any other medical organizations that don't support lifting the deferral period) are being driven by bigotry? Which is a spurious and dangerous charge. No doubt there are people or groups that oppose allowing MSM to donate with fewer restrictions because of bigotry but does anyone like to offer any evidence whatsoever that the FDA is among them? The fact that there are countries that have no deferral period is also specious argument, unless someone would like to argue that Germany(which has a ban) is more homophobic than Russia(which has none)
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The Insect Court posted:There are certainly posters suggesting that the existence of the 12-month deferral period is a matter of homophobia. How is that anything other than a suggestion that the FDA(and any other medical organizations that don't support lifting the deferral period) are being driven by bigotry? Which is a spurious and dangerous charge. No doubt there are people or groups that oppose allowing MSM to donate with fewer restrictions because of bigotry but does anyone like to offer any evidence whatsoever that the FDA is among them? The fact that there are countries that have no deferral period is also specious argument, unless someone would like to argue that Germany(which has a ban) is more homophobic than Russia(which has none)
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Ran Mad Dog posted:Note to straight people posting here in the future: Take note of the last few pages, and just don't mention that you're straight and you won't have bigots jumping down your throat at first opportunity. Ran Mad Dog posted:Cool thanks for letting us all know it's completely safe to ignore all your dumb bullshit, then. *cough*
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Tatum Girlparts posted:The Clinton white house was literally the first time in American history we had a white house actively on our side in basically any way. First major (out) gay appointments, major pushes for HIV/AIDS coverage in medical benefits, hell they were even on the 'hey maybe stop bullying gay kids, I bet that's not good for them' train long before everyone else. We literally had people giving impassioned rants about how the clinton white house was the 'most pro-gay administration ever' as a slam on them. This has gotten me thinking of what was the very first time I ever saw a, well if not positive, but a non-negative view of a gay person in popular media. I read a lot as a kid and found many gay characters who were treated as actual people, but on TV and in movies in the 70s and 80s they were either limp-wristed effetes specialising in interior decorating, or leather-clad perverts waiting to pounce on any poor innocent man who came too close. It's incredibly difficult to think of a single example before the 90s where a gay person could be on TV or film as anything other than a stereotype, and usually a negative one. The closest I could recall were "A Very Special Episode" style things where an existing show would have a gay character on, usually with AIDS, so that the main characters could show how enlightened and tolerant they were by not calling for that person to be driven out of town or burned at the stake. In one episode of the original 21 Jump Street, they had to look after a kid with AIDS who was being attacked. I still remember when he told Johnny Depp's character, "Well you can get it from blood transfusions or you can get it by being gay. And I haven't been in hospital lately." All so shocking. An actual gay! In fact, I'm still trying to think of a positive or neutral portrayal of a regular character who was gay back then. There's obviously Will & Grace, but I'm not including that for two reasons - one it was in 1998, second it that had that loving horrible shibboleth cutout character. Well, Teen Wolf with everyone's favourite actor Michael J Fox came out in 1988 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57SSuRbQDxE&t=14s I'll keep looking.
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The Insect Court posted:I find the implication that the Obama FDA is filled with secretly bible-thumping homophobes to be a questionable one. Quite. After all, the USA is not Northern Ireland. 
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Excuse me as I roll my eyes at the dogpile of the "straight, ignorant berniebro" Anyway, that story from Russia is pretty loving terrifying. Where are we safe? Not in the east, apparently not in the west either. Not in our homes, not in clubs. There are people out there who I don't even know who wish for my death, that's a scary thought.
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Gorilla Salad posted:
My personal favorite: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/bodyhorrors/2013/06/28/captain-planet-hiv/ I don't recall the kid being gay, but it was a rare moment of "hey guys you're all stupid about HIV/AIDS" at the time (1992), and made an effort to spread a legitimate public health message about HIV. The second half is on youtube but I'm not sure about the first. Also the kid with HIV is voiced by NPH and his mom is Elizabeth Taylor. 
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http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/baybuzz/lgbt-pride-flag-raised-after-orlando-shooting-unbearable-for-christian/2282099quote:TAMPA -- A pride flag waving outside the Hillsborough County center was meant to be a sign of respect and remembrance for the victims of the shooting at an LGBT nightclub in Orlando. Remember, even a few days after we get mass murdered, we need to remember that our flag is a very divisive and mean thing to put in public and really it's our fault if someone is 'uncomfortable' with it.
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EXAKT Science posted:Also my city's Pride parade/festival are happening tomorrow and I'm volunteering all day and won't get a chance later, so Happy Pride to all of you beautiful queer idiots! ❤💛💚💙💜 i would go to a minneapolis pride thing if i actually knew where one was and if i liked crowds
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Tatum Girlparts posted:http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/baybuzz/lgbt-pride-flag-raised-after-orlando-shooting-unbearable-for-christian/2282099 Hillsborough County is filled with and run by retired, wealthy, elderly white people so this doesn't surprise me.
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Rand Mad Dog yikes_nicemeltdown.txtTatum Girlparts posted:http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/baybuzz/lgbt-pride-flag-raised-after-orlando-shooting-unbearable-for-christian/2282099 Meanwhile just a few miles outside of Tampa if you commute to and from Brandon and Tampa... http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/19407 Yes the worlds largest confederate flag. Been flying ever since Obama came into office and has been flying ever since. tezcat fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Jun 18, 2016 |
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tezcat posted:Meanwhile just a few miles outside of Tampa if you commute to and from Brandon and Tampa... 50' X 30'? That's.... pretty small, honestly. You'd think a group so dedicated to giving progress a middle finger could at least spring for a football-field sized one.
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Gorilla Salad posted:This has gotten me thinking of what was the very first time I ever saw a, well if not positive, but a non-negative view of a gay person in popular media. Have you seen Dog Day Afternoon?
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EXAKT Science posted:Also my city's Pride parade/festival are happening tomorrow and I'm volunteering all day and won't get a chance later, so Happy Pride to all of you beautiful queer idiots! ❤💛💚💙💜 Just got back from mine. Forgot to apply sunscreen to my arms, and I'm pretty sure I was getting some early warning signs of heatstroke for a bit there. Still worth it.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:I'm shocked that that known contrarian-poster and QCS superstar the insect court has taken up a contrarian position in a thread in D&D. You realize that your first sentence, you're pretty much describing yourself? Maybe not including the QCS superstar bit. I've seen you around being a bit of a dick, which is not necessarily a bad thing, but have some self-awareness about it. curse of flubber fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jun 19, 2016 |
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Megaspel posted:You realize that your first sentence, you're pretty much describing yourself? Maybe not including the QCS superstar bit. I've seen you around being a bit of a dick, which is not necessarily a bad thing, but have some self-awareness about it. 
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If I hadn't read this in the guardian I would've sworn it was the onion. Still might be from the kenyan counterpart, because I don't believe it. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/16/kenya-upholds-use-of-anal-exam-to-determine-sexual-orientation
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You rely a lot on ad-hominem attacks I guess? Every time I see you shouting at someone I always want to side with the person you're attacking even if they're 100% in the wrong. You seem sarcastic to a fault, to the point where you put zero effort into your posts, especially when someone actually gives you something worth refuting. Also gently caress attacking people for their sexuality, even if they're heterosexual, as a bi dude that hurts, and I feel like I have to spell out my sexuality to you otherwise you may assume I'm straight and dismiss me, which would be annoying. I don't actually know if you would, but that's the vibe I get from your posts. There's plenty of things wrong to point out, and maybe some of that can stem from hetrosexuality, or whiteness or whatever, but focusing on that seems counter productive and hypocritical. curse of flubber fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Jun 20, 2016 |
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Megaspel posted:You rely a lot on ad-hominem attacks I guess? Every time I see you shouting at someone I always want to side with the person you're attacking even if they're 100% in the wrong. (I don't give a poo poo what you think)
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:
Yeah I thought so. Would you tell me anyone's thoughts you actually give a poo poo about? Or am I going to be responded to by another low effort single smiley response?
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Well to break this up here's Anderson cooper being really cool: https://mediamatters.org/video/2016/06/14/watch-anderson-cooper-confront-florida-ag-pam-bondi-over-her-hostility-lgbt-rights/210944
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Megaspel posted:Yeah I thought so. No I won't because it doesn't matter. Here's some actual advice: if you're that insecure about your sexuality that a stranger telling another stranger to stop straightsplaining poo poo on an internet forum give you the vapors you need to focus on getting that in check because you'll crumble the first time you actually meet someone "offline" that has an issue with you and your sexual orientation. Nostalgia4Infinity fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Jun 20, 2016 |
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:nice meltdown sweet catchphrase
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