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I think I'm done wishing for remakes of old cartoons. Too many of them end up being poo poo. What I really want is what I already have, just in HD and with new stories.
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So what's the deal with aliens, Earth and the MCU? Was the invasion of New York in the Avengers earth's first contact with alien life? If so why doesn't anyone in Daredevil or Jessica Jones talk about how crazy it is that not only do aliens exist but they invaded our city? In Guardianfs of the Galaxy they show that other civilizations obviously know about Earth since the Ravagers kidnap Peter and in the first Thor they show Odin and friends fighting the Ice Giants or whatever on Earth . Is there some sort of Prime Directive keeping aliens from messing with our planet because our lack of technology? Asgard didn't seem to have a problem messing around with Earth thousands of years ago or defending that village in Thor 2 that was just mud huts where everyone had swords and spears.
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Jun 19, 2016 00:10
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The rest of the universe seems to let Asgard be as long as they don't mess with anything beyond their sector of space. Probably because even an Asgardian accountant can punch your jaws off.
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Jun 19, 2016 00:54
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It kind of seems that Earth is within Asgard's sphere of influence or something, which could have been dissuading other overt involvement until the Asgardian Loki fucks that all up.
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Jun 19, 2016 01:02
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NikkolasKing posted:I want to catch up with the MCU and "Foxverse" or whatever it's called. What movies since...2011 or 2012, whichever, should I look into? The Guest and Robocop 2014
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Jun 19, 2016 01:03
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THOR 1 was Asgard policing realms, same as in 2, AGENTS the Kree came a long time ago to experiment with what would be Inhumans, GOTG we don't really know why the came but probably something specific and insignificant, and AVENGERS 1 was a summoning via portal and not really anyone actually coming to Earth. AVENGERS 1 said it, we were evolutionarily babbys and so no one out there cared until the Infinity Stone started broadcasting that we're interesting to gently caress with now hence Thanos gathering the goods for his lone Michael Jackson sparkle glove.
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Jun 19, 2016 01:17
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:All I want out of life is a Michael Bay directed Silverhawks. I still say and believe that Bay is perfect for GI JOE. Imagine the battle of the Statue of Liberty from the cartoon movie directed by Bay. It would be amazing.
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Jun 19, 2016 01:23
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Maxwell Lord posted:You know, I'm reasonably optimistic about this movie, given the talent involved and the series being a classic and one that can easily be adapted to film, etc., but this is some lovely graphic design.
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Jun 19, 2016 02:09
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"Isn't it crazy that aliens just invaded? We aren't alone! Life changing right?" *dude flies past pulled along by his magic hammer*
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Jun 19, 2016 04:55
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Pretty sure all the TV series mention the invasion at least once. Otherwise I'm not sure what you expect them to do, although a flashback episode to show what they were doing during the invasion would be pretty sweet.
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Jun 19, 2016 05:24
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Hodgepodge posted:"Isn't it crazy that aliens just invaded? We aren't alone! Life changing right?" At least there aren't any loving mutants to worry about. -shakes angry fist- Wait, Quicksilver exists in the MCU now, right? How does that work? What about the persecution and potential for genocide? Or is he just not a mutant?
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Jun 19, 2016 05:48
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The thing about the MCU is that "continuity" doesn't matter for poo poo and the "shared universe" is mostly branding.
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Jun 19, 2016 05:52
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NikkolasKing posted:At least there aren't any loving mutants to worry about. -shakes angry fist- He was the result of HYDRA experimentation, there are no mutants in the MCU
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Jun 19, 2016 05:52
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:It's getting a shared universe deal with Space Ghost, Birdman, Mighty Mightor, Johnny Quest and Frankenstein Jnr: Thanks to Adult Swim I am unable to take Space Ghost, Birdman or Johnny Quest seriously anymore.
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Jun 19, 2016 05:55
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Vintimus Prime posted:I still say and believe that Bay is perfect for GI JOE. Imagine the battle of the Statue of Liberty from the cartoon movie directed by Bay. It would be amazing. Oh, man, that would be great. I just watched that intro thanks to you and even now it gets me pretty damned pumped.
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Jun 19, 2016 06:29
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NikkolasKing posted:At least there aren't any loving mutants to worry about. -shakes angry fist- Pietro and Wanda are the results of human "enhancement" experimentation.
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Jun 19, 2016 08:15
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Well that's kind of interesting... I don't know why they included them, then. It's not like they are particularly well known characters and The Avengers has had a lot of lineups. Then again, from what I hear, X-Men Evolution might have pushed the twins into the greater public spectrum. Obviously I don't know if this is true or not but I was talking about Evo elsewhere and someone saidquote:The MCU Scarlet Witch dresses like the Evo version and the Fox version of Quicksilver probably resembles Evo's more than he resembles the comics version. Anyway, I mentioned earlier about good R-rated comic-based films and The Crow which is overlooked. But I didn' t even need to go that far back - there was also Watchmen. Was that good? I remember hearing mixed things. I'm forming a list of DVDs or Blu-Rays to get when I have some money and I was gonna add it to the list. Also gonna buy the actual comic to compare.
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Jun 19, 2016 08:41
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Watchmen was a servicable transition of most of the dialogue and visuals to the screen that completely missed the point of major parts of the book. It could and should have been to comic book movies what the book was to comic books, but simply wasn't. Intro sequence was alright though.
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Jun 19, 2016 08:49
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My Lovely Horse posted:Watchmen was a servicable transition of most of the dialogue and visuals to the screen that completely missed the point of major parts of the book. It could and should have been to comic book movies what the book was to comic books, but simply wasn't. Intro sequence was alright though. As has been posted here before, Watchmen really does sort of function as an answer to comic book films, it was just made before they exploded like they have. I bet someone watching it for the first time might get a different experience out of it in 2016.
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Jun 19, 2016 13:24
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NikkolasKing posted:Well that's kind of interesting... I don't know why they included them, then. It's not like they are particularly well known characters and The Avengers has had a lot of lineups. I remember people saying it's because Joss Whedon is a big fan of the Scarlet Witch. It would explain why he introduced them but then killed off Quicksilver immediately
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Jun 19, 2016 15:20
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The problem with the 'Mark Kermode' meme about how Watchmen adapts the visuals and dialog but not the point is that we don't get any closer to articulating precisely what the point was, or why Watchmen can't have its own point. It's remarkably like the 1971 film The Point, where there's a scene of an artist who paints a red circle on a white canvas and is immediately kicked out of the academy because he hasn't made a painting that has a literal 'point.' Of course, the subtle joke is that even a painting without a literal point possesses a figurative point, like looking at a cone from a vertical axis so that it only looks like it has no point.
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Jun 19, 2016 15:32
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Additionally: whenever someone attempts to explain 'the point' of Watchmen, it's invariably some dross about how the purple-coloured cartoon world of psychic magicians was 'realistic'.
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Jun 19, 2016 15:58
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I eagerly await comic fans explaining what the point of Watchmen is.
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Jun 19, 2016 16:24
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:I eagerly await comic fans explaining what the point of Watchmen is. The point was that every life is a horrible, terrible miracle and thus life has a point even if it ends in a big ole joke.
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Jun 19, 2016 16:38
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Burkion posted:The point was that every life is a horrible, terrible miracle and thus life has a point even if it ends in a big ole joke. How do superheroes relate to this, specifically?
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Jun 19, 2016 16:42
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:How do superheroes relate to this, specifically? What super heroes
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Jun 19, 2016 16:46
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watchmen is is intially consumed as the majority of the characters within it would, linearly. however by the end we are to see it as dr manhattan does, concurrently and whole. he is the inverse of humanity, sentience with knowledge of his own immortality, and through him and his paradoxically limited omnipotence the other character's actions and arcs are grounded. that's"the point", to me
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Jun 19, 2016 17:21
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:How do superheroes relate to this, specifically? Blue dong.
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Jun 19, 2016 19:30
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Pretty sure all the TV series mention the invasion at least once. Otherwise I'm not sure what you expect them to do, although a flashback episode to show what they were doing during the invasion would be pretty sweet. Yes this, that scene in Batman vs. Superman was the only interesting part of the movie.
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Jun 19, 2016 19:33
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I came out viewing Watchmen in the cinema hating it, but the Directors Cut turned me around on it massively and I was glued to the screen from start to finish. SMG and K-Waste, have you watched that huge 4 hour long version with the cartoon added to the run time, and if so do you think thats worth a watch too?
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Jun 19, 2016 19:37
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The Watchmen is still my favorite comic book movie. The personal struggles of each super hero is what made me love it so much.
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Jun 19, 2016 19:41
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I'm not saying I hated Watchmen but I do keep forgetting it exists. Every so often I spot the DVD in a store and go "oh right, they made that."
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Jun 19, 2016 19:45
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Gorn Myson posted:SMG and K-Waste, have you watched that huge 4 hour long version with the cartoon added to the run time, and if so do you think thats worth a watch too? I can do without the Ultimate Cut, only because Tales of the Black Freighter on its own is a good short, and all of that stuff about the news stand doesn't really elucidate or improve the pacing of the movie the way the new stuff in the Director's Cut does. Honestly, I would have been more partial to the Ultimate Cut completely dropping Tales and replacing it with the faux T.V. special for Under the Hood. That would have been ace.
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Jun 19, 2016 19:58
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I recently picked up a collection of old Thor comics and I wish they hadn't dropped Donald Blake from the movies. Not because I'm such a big fan of alter egos or secret identities, but because Thor's and Blake's relationship is weird and creepy. I'm still not 100% certain Blake is a real person, mostly because Thor doesn't treat him as such. It's as if Superman believed Clark Kent was just his disguise, but whenever he puts on the glasses he really becomes a different person.
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Jun 19, 2016 20:43
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I said come in! posted:Yes this, that scene in Batman vs. Superman was the only interesting part of the movie. The corresponding scene in Civil War, with them all sitting in a table watching clips from previous movies, was laughably weak in comparison. I'm hoping someone will eventually do a supercut showing how the BvS scenes fit in with how the various actions are shown firsthand in MoS.
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Jun 19, 2016 20:59
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Gorn Myson posted:I came out viewing Watchmen in the cinema hating it, but the Directors Cut turned me around on it massively and I was glued to the screen from start to finish. So do you think I should read the comic first and then watch the movie or vice versa?
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Jun 19, 2016 21:50
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Chairman Capone posted:
There's a few on YouTube,here's one with weird coloring: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ficEDs6WmhE
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Jun 19, 2016 21:52
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NikkolasKing posted:So do you think I should read the comic first and then watch the movie or vice versa?
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Jun 19, 2016 21:55
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NikkolasKing posted:So do you think I should read the comic first and then watch the movie or vice versa? Doesn't matter, it's a Children of Men/Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep type deal.
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Jun 19, 2016 22:04
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As with most things, you should consume in release order, unless you have absolutely no interest in reading a comic book.
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