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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I have a friend on facebook who keeps posting Jill Stein tweets and I honestly believe that Jill dislikes Hillary more than Trump. Make fun of them for supporting polio. As always, gently caress the green party.
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Epic High Five posted:The whole "first woman to receive the nomination of a major party" pissed her off a whole lot I think Hillary wasn't wrong with that tweet. 
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Stultus Maximus posted:Do you follow the freeper thread? Every time a True Conservative Hero actually gets in office and has to take positions and make decisions and vote on the record they become impure and the Establishment Enemy. Oh yeah, been in there for years. There's alot of similarities between the hard right and the hard left when it comes to no true scotsmanning the gently caress out of every single candidate post election.
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Jun 19, 2016 07:03
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Epic High Five posted:The whole "first woman to receive the nomination of a major party" pissed her off a whole lot I think Yeah the Greens are totally a major party, they're so important that they got Bush elected!
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Epic High Five posted:The whole "first woman to receive the nomination of a major party" pissed her off a whole lot I think You have to actually win some races to be considered a major party though, no?
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Epic High Five posted:The whole "first woman to receive the nomination of a major party" pissed her off a whole lot I think Stein's not even that though even if you give her the benefit of the doubt by counting the top-tier third parties as "major parties." Because the Greens themselves nominated Cynthia McKinney in 2008. Of course Stein is still the woman who has received the most votes for president in a general election to date. Not that that record will be held for very long.
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There's always a problem when you're description of politics sounds less like a list of goals to work towards and more like the dawning of the age of Aquarius. If you say to yourself, "Aha, what the great awakening of the masses requires is a punny acronym about racial justice", that's a good indication that people shouldn't listen to you.
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Jun 19, 2016 07:12
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Tatum Girlparts posted:yea I also hate vaccines, farming techniques that have existed for centuries, and basic concepts of nuclear power that manage to fuel most of the developed world just fine, Jill Stein 2016! The Green Party: the party for progressives who hate progress.
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Jun 19, 2016 07:23
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The Rokstar posted:Similarly, Bernie Sanders would absolutely become a DINO (or whatever the equivalent of RINO would be in this situation) in the minds of most Bernie bros if he was actually elected President. You guys sure like to talk a lot about what berniebros are and stuff.
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Jun 19, 2016 07:26
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punk rebel ecks posted:What would be the advantages of having more members in the house of representatives? Slightly more responsive congressman. Big states get properly represented. States that barely gain populace will at least not lose house members.
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DemeaninDemon posted:
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Oh I know Hillary was correct to claim the title, I was just pointing out that Stein got real loving salty over it so if she seems more hostile to the Dems than usual that's why. Is she even trying to court Bernouts still?
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Epic High Five posted:Oh I know Hillary was correct to claim the title, I was just pointing out that Stein got real loving salty over it so if she seems more hostile to the Dems than usual that's why. Is she even trying to court Bernouts still? Probably? As pointed out, the greens are just as no true scotsmanny as Freep.
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Jun 19, 2016 07:36
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Crowsbeak posted:Slightly more responsive congressman. Big states get properly represented. States that barely gain populace will at least not lose house members. It would also make it more expensive to buy enough congressmen to enact your lovely regulatory capture laws, and running for office wouldn't require you to be independently wealthy beforehand.
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Jun 19, 2016 07:44
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OhFunny posted:As a resident of New Hampshire I would say it's not gerrymandered all that much. The legislature has been flipping between Democrats and Republicans the last few elections. I'd chalk it up to Democrats not turning out in midterms. Just a note: NH's Governor, State Senators & Reps all have two year terms on the same cycle. This is a good post. You are a good poster.
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OhFunny posted:
Colin From The East. He's an infiltrator from Maine out to conquer you. 
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The Rokstar posted:Similarly, Bernie Sanders would absolutely become a DINO (or whatever the equivalent of RINO would be in this situation) in the minds of most Bernie bros if he was actually elected President. I have a socialist alternative friend who this whole time has said he doesn't support Bernie himself (problematic foreign policy, working within the capitalist system only legitimizes it further etc) but rather Bernie's ability to serve as the platform for a message about economic inequality. He also called Hillary Satan within the first 10 minutes of us meeting for the first time Fuck You And Diebold fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Jun 19, 2016 |
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JeffersonClay posted:It's the same compelling interest examined in Tinker. The state has a compelling interest in maintaining a school climate conducive of learning. The court decided black armbands protesting the Vietnam war were not, of themselves, sufficiently disruptive to allow the state to ban them. Swastika armbands certainly would have been. poo poo, the court was cool with disciplining a kid with a "bong hits 4 Jesus" poster at an off-campus event. I met that guy while I was in China. He's an English teacher there. Sells hashish on the side. He actually got a $50,000 payout from a civil court a couple of years ago due to some minor detail of the case going his way.
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I just saw a commercial for a job placement organization for spec ops veterans. It ended with the something like "Help them win again". I went to their website trying to find the ad for you guys, but it just has a testimonal video, which includes someone saying "people who've always won". Trump has truly changed the paradigm.  edit: Here's the commercial https://www.ispot.tv/ad/A649/your-grateful-nation-a-new-mission Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Jun 19, 2016 |
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The vast majority of vets are able to get jobs. The ones you hear that are chronically unemployed are more often that not, were chaptered out for domestic violence, drug abuse, or psychological problems.
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amuayse posted:The vast majority of vets are able to get jobs. The ones you hear that are chronically unemployed are more often that not, were chaptered out for domestic violence, drug abuse, or psychological problems. I wonder what might cause someone in the military to develop psychological problems?
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Jun 19, 2016 10:37
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Mainly crappy work schedules and coworkers doing dumb poo poo.
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Jun 19, 2016 10:42
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http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/06/17/muslim-leader-mbta-response-prayer-understandable/ Stay classy Boston. And yes I mean the comments.
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Jun 19, 2016 11:04
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Brexit? More like Texit! https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/19/texas-secession-movement-brexit-eu-referendum
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Stein's not even that though even if you give her the benefit of the doubt by counting the top-tier third parties as "major parties." What, no love for Victoria Woodhull?
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amuayse posted:The vast majority of vets are able to get jobs. The ones you hear that are chronically unemployed are more often that not, were chaptered out for domestic violence, drug abuse, or psychological problems. When I was homeless the vast vast majority of vets I met who were on tge streets with me were largely homeless because of unmet medical needs that left them unable to work.
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Prester Jane posted:When I was homeless the vast vast majority of vets I met who were on tge streets with me were largely homeless because of unmet medical needs that left them unable to work. Domestic violence, drug abuse, and psychological problems aren't exactly unrelated to unmet medical needs.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Brexit? More like Texit! Goddammit Texas we've been through this.
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The Green Party isn't a real organization nor does it want to be one. There's a reason why they're less effective than even the Libertarians or, hell, the SA.
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amuayse posted:The vast majority of vets are able to get jobs. The ones you hear that are chronically unemployed are more often that not, were chaptered out for domestic violence, drug abuse, or psychological problems. Saying only vets who have job problems are the ones with psychological problems is kinda like saying the only people who have problems with smoking are the ones who get cancer, though. Especially because of the way the military has historically minimized, denied, and stigmatized mental illness.
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Nitrousoxide posted:Brexit? More like Texit! Isn't Texas a net receiver of federal tax dollars? I mean, gently caress if they want to leave fine, we should have never allowed their racist asses in the Union in the first place but they would be cutting off their noses to spite their faces
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there wolf posted:Domestic violence, drug abuse, and psychological problems aren't exactly unrelated to unmet medical needs. Wow, now that's how you pull off a triple negative. Also, "Texit" works much better than the UK version. 
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rscott posted:Isn't Texas a net receiver of federal tax dollars? I mean, gently caress if they want to leave fine, we should have never allowed their racist asses in the Union in the first place but they would be cutting off their noses to spite their faces
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rscott posted:Isn't Texas a net receiver of federal tax dollars? I mean, gently caress if they want to leave fine, we should have never allowed their racist asses in the Union in the first place but they would be cutting off their noses to spite their faces Texas was about neutral last I saw. It's mostly the lower population interior and poorer southern states that are net receivers of federal funds, though it's hard to tell how much of that is from the number of military facilities and stuff we put there relative to population as opposed to programs actually benefiting people there.
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punk rebel ecks posted:But the point people make is that these states have a higher proportion of representative per person and are still highly gerrymandered. How is New Hampshire in regards to gerrymandering? Those people are making a pretty wrong statement then. New Hampshire is extremely not gerrymandered with their extremely high constituent-representative ratio. No states even approach that ratio, the next lowest ratio is probably Maine's 153 reps in the lower house for 1.3 million people - for about 8500 people per rep. They similarly do not have much int he way of state gerrymandering. Now consider that Texas' lower house is 3 seats smaller (150) but covers 27 million people - and you start to see why there's so much state legislature level gerrymandering! And most states have houses much smaller than that. This page makes for handy comparisons of the legislature sizes, though you'll have to crunch the math versus population manually: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_U.S._state_governments
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Ogmius815 posted:The leftist tendency toward factionalism is strong and well documented. For example, I can't help disliking Jill Stein more than Trump even though we agree on more things. Humans are sick. Oh God, same. Jill Stein to me represents everything I loathe about the fringe elements of the left. Trump and the right to me feels more like a force of nature than anything else, but Jill Stein and the other goddamn college leftists at my University feel like people who should know better, but seem to willfully ignore political realities in favor of some idealized notion of political revolution. Basically Ron Paul for collectivists, like someone else said.
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They're like a catchment basin for the Democrats.
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Accretionist posted:They're like a catchment basin for the Democrats. They'll eventually flow into the Democrats, bringing all of their horseshit and toxic chemicals with them?
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Quorum posted:They'll eventually flow into the Democrats, bringing all of their horseshit and toxic chemicals with them? berniebros, checks out
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punk rebel ecks posted:What would be the advantages of having more members in the house of representatives? When America was founded, each Representative was on average responsible for 30,000 people. Now it's well over 700,000 people per Representative. More broadly, I was thinking the other day - when the Constitution was written we had (rough estimate) around three million people in this country. That's less than the population of Los Angeles. That's less than half the population of New York City. And now we have over 300 million people- a hundred times more. Can you take the town charter of a town of 10,000 people and expect to run a city of a million people based on that? Probably not very well. The style of government that works for a small town is just plain not going to work for a large city. Institutions don't necessarily scale that way. Yet we're trying to run America based on a document that was designed to run a country with the population of, like, Brooklyn.
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