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turntabler posted:
A full grown alligator can have a bite strength around 3,000 PSI. For reference a lion or hyena can do about 1,000. There is gently caress all you could do without a weapon or about a dozen strong dudes... with weapons.
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The answer is so obvious. Make sweet love to the gator, and when it's all horned up relaxed it will let go of the child. Might make you a sex offender for loving a gator in front of a kid though.
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Jun 18, 2016 14:08
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This gator story is awful, and I have nothing but sympathy for the parents, but I did not have to read that article to know that they were from out of state. Though not frequent, it's not uncommon to hear news reports about tourists that lose small pets while walking too close to lakes, or someone losing a foot because they dipped their toesies in a canal to cool off, or worse. The truth is you can plant a million signs around every lake, pond, spring, and river around here, but what tourists fail to realize is that alligators are NOT sharks. You don't have to be swimming for them to get you, they'll drag you down at ankle-deep waters. And you'll never see them coming either. They're living dinosaurs, and the reason they're still around is because they're very good at what they do. It's why most people have swimming pools in their backyards down here. All of nature's waterholes are full of hungry reptiles, venomous snakes, and other assorted protected wildlife. Disney's usually pretty good about signage and safety. Especially in Orlando where they own nightclubs, resorts, and campgrounds in addition to the parks, studios and offices. Disney's going to comp/reimburse their stay, make some other nice gestures while they're in the area, and give them a generous settlement to stay out of civil court. But as far as charges of criminal negligence? Not gonna happen. Disney's only responsible for the animals they own, not the wildlife that lives on its properties. They did their dilligence by having the signs up, but you can't educate every tourist that the animals here are as dangerous as Australia's.
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Jun 18, 2016 16:19
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It doesnt need to be criminal negligence to have a huge negative impact on Disney's image so they'll be putting up much better signage regardless of how much legal pressure there may be to do so
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Jun 18, 2016 19:02
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There's already new signage up according to some theme park industry websites. Doesn't change the fact that Disney has a bit of a black eye at the moment. That combined with the terrorist attack have some people reconsidering where to take their summer vacation this year.
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Jun 18, 2016 21:00
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wyntyr posted:There's already new signage up according to some theme park industry websites. Doesn't change the fact that Disney has a bit of a black eye at the moment. That combined with the terrorist attack have some people reconsidering where to take their summer vacation this year. What are the odds a third terrible tragedy takes place there this Summer?
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Jun 18, 2016 21:07
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Chichevache posted:What are the odds a third terrible tragedy takes place there this Summer? I thought this was the third.
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Jun 18, 2016 21:19
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It's Florida. There's a 100% chance. My money is on some sort of industrial fire.
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Jun 18, 2016 21:23
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Solice Kirsk posted:It's Florida. There's a 100% chance. My money is on some sort of industrial fire. I live in Florida. I put my wager on a sinkhole.
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Jun 18, 2016 21:30
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Solice Kirsk posted:It's Florida. There's a 100% chance. My money is on some sort of industrial fire. I'm betting on something to do with Florida Man, the scamp.
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Jun 18, 2016 21:30
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Chichevache posted:What are the odds a third terrible tragedy takes place there this Summer? Varkk is right, this is number three. Public murder of Christina Grimmie of "The Voice" fame Friday night, terrorist attack Sunday morning, then gator snack at Disney.
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Jun 18, 2016 22:23
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I think the fact that it's Florida already counts as one disaster.
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Jun 18, 2016 22:32
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Stare-Out posted:I think the fact that it's Florida already counts as one disaster. Sad thing is, Orlando's usually considered one of the nicer cities in the state - it's well known here for being the most LGBT-friendly city in the state.
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Jun 18, 2016 22:39
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wyntyr posted:Varkk is right, this is number three. Public murder of Christina Grimmie of "The Voice" fame Friday night, terrorist attack Sunday morning, then gator snack at Disney. I wasn't counting the Grimmie thing. People get gunned down senselessly all over America.
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Jun 18, 2016 22:50
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Chichevache posted:I wasn't counting the Grimmie thing. People get gunned down senselessly all over America. Not all of them happen on stage, in front of a big crowd
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Jun 18, 2016 23:07
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Travis343 posted:Not all of them happen on stage, in front of a big crowd I thought she was signing autographs when it happened.
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Jun 18, 2016 23:12
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Chichevache posted:I thought she was signing autographs when it happened. Yeah, that's the case. It's the public murder of a public figure, I'd say it counts. 
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Jun 18, 2016 23:14
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wyntyr posted:Yeah, that's the case. It's the public murder of a public figure, I'd say it counts. Ok. I didn't know singing contestants counted as celebrities.
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Jun 18, 2016 23:28
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Chichevache posted:Ok. I didn't know singing contestants counted as celebrities. I wouldn't call her a celebrity but like 13 million people watched her on tv in the weeks preceding her murder in front of a crowd at an autograph signing so I'm pretty sure it is ok to call her a public figure.
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Jun 18, 2016 23:38
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Yeah, I'd never heard of her prior to the shooting, but in fairness I'm an antisocial goon.
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wyntyr posted:Yeah, I'd never heard of her prior to the shooting, but in fairness I'm an antisocial goon. I don't think of watching television as being very socially demanding.
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Cythereal posted:Sad thing is, Orlando's usually considered one of the nicer cities in the state Quoting because this unnerved me.
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Jun 19, 2016 02:05
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Been editing articles about the alligator incident all week. This doesn't make me an expert or a witness, but Disney responded pretty much immediately for a company of its size - comping the family and installing signs ASAP. Doesn't make up for losing a child, not by a long shot (nothing can), and I agree they should have had more informative signage originally considering duh people from out of state will be there, but at least they aren't just sitting on their laurels. I don't read the comments sections, but thankfully all articles + quotes therein have been sympathetic to the parents so far. Just a terrible, tragic accident that could have happened to anyone.
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Jun 19, 2016 07:20
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A Spider Covets posted:I don't read the comments sections, but thankfully all articles + quotes therein have been sympathetic to the parents so far. Just a terrible, tragic accident that could have happened to anyone. That is the thing isn't it? Just today I took my three year old to a river and stood there with him as he splashed on the edge in his gumboots, threw stones and sticks in to the water to make a splash and all the things a pre-schooler does on a Sunday afternoon at the river with his family. At one point I realised just how similar it was for that family in Orlando and I was thankful to live in a country without crocodiles etc.
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Varkk posted:That is the thing isn't it? Just today I took my three year old to a river and stood there with him as he splashed on the edge in his gumboots, threw stones and sticks in to the water to make a splash and all the things a pre-schooler does on a Sunday afternoon at the river with his family. At one point I realised just how similar it was for that family in Orlando and I was thankful to live in a country without crocodiles etc. Tell us what country you're in and we can tell you what dangerous animals are lurking out there that can kill your kid. 
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Jun 19, 2016 09:24
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Chichevache posted:Tell us what country you're in and we can tell you what dangerous animals are lurking out there that can kill your kid. whats your address ill post you a crocodile
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Jun 19, 2016 11:49
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An alligator's jaws are no stronger than a thick elastic band. Granted, most people don't have the quickness of thought or strength to achieve it but I'd pry the mouth open and wedge it with a thick stick. They're more afraid of us than we are of them.
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Beige posted:An alligator's jaws are no stronger than a thick elastic band. Granted, most people don't have the quickness of thought or strength to achieve it but I'd pry the mouth open and wedge it with a thick stick. They're more afraid of us than we are of them. no, the thing is that the muscles for them to OPEN their jaws are weak enough that you can just rubber band them shut to render them harmless, but their bite strength (to close their jaws) is ridiculously enormous if they're biting down on something already then no amount of heaving will get that thing out
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Jun 19, 2016 13:38
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yeah keeping a gator/croc's mouth closed is the easy part, keeping it open not so much
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Jun 19, 2016 13:47
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I am a VERY strong mother when my kids are in danger.
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Jun 19, 2016 13:53
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Did they ever say how big the gator was? Cause I'd think it would be a smaller one to take a toddler.
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Jun 19, 2016 14:55
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The only thing you could realistically do with an alligator is gouge the eyes. Same thing for pretty much all large animals, unless you're armed, always go for the eyes.
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Jun 19, 2016 14:59
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Solice Kirsk posted:Did they ever say how big the gator was? Cause I'd think it would be a smaller one to take a toddler. 4-7 feet
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Thoughtless posted:The only thing you could realistically do with an alligator is gouge the eyes. Same thing for pretty much all large animals, unless you're armed, always go for the eyes. Same with muggers and rapists.
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Thoughtless posted:The only thing you could realistically do with an alligator is gouge the eyes. Same thing for pretty much all large animals, unless you're armed, always go for the eyes. Gators' eyes retract into their skulls for protection against this tactic
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InediblePenguin posted:Gators' eyes retract into their skulls for protection against this tactic Gators and crocodiles are actually pretty great. They are essentially natures "Yeah we thought you would think of that" animal. Drown it? Nah they can hold their breath for like ever. Shoot it? I mean that might work but we armored their skin. Run from it? Nah we made them able to run faster/as fast as an adult human when it needs too.
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Jun 19, 2016 20:03
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http://www.yelp.com/topic/diamond-bar-my-friend-maribel-ramos-is-missing I feel like this has already been posted, but I'm not sure, so I'll post it anyway.
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Sarcopenia posted:http://www.yelp.com/topic/diamond-bar-my-friend-maribel-ramos-is-missing Incredible. Don't skip this one.
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Sarcopenia posted:http://www.yelp.com/topic/diamond-bar-my-friend-maribel-ramos-is-missing This post has been removed by Admin
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How One Man Is Dealing with Life After Leaving His Family's Polygamist Cult currently reading into the kingston clan and this is just 
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