Endie posted:

Ffs Plato made up Atlantis with perhaps slight ecboes of thera and the collapse of minoan Crete. It having been in Bolivia is a pretty long way from being the "least insane theory" sorry if that is mundane.

Thomas More's Utopia doesn't exist and Narnia wasn't originally situated just outside Flint, Michigan. Hopefully that has it covered but if anyone wants the bad news on how they can book flights to Kings Landing then send them to me.

Endie posted:

Ffs Plato made up Atlantis with perhaps slight ecboes of thera and the collapse of minoan Crete. It having been in Bolivia is a pretty long way from being the "least insane theory" sorry if that is mundane.

avatarinwin posted:

i made my own list i hope you enjoy

Massasoit posted:

What are the fighter changes?

quote:

Carriers & Fighters
Long Range Heavy Fighters (Ametat, Termite, Antaeus, Gungnir) bomb ability now correctly scales with squadron size.
Warp Scramblers now stop Fighter MWDs and MJDs mid-cycle.
Networked Sensor Array bonus to Scan Resolution now has a stacking penalty with sensor boosters.
Networked Sensor Array bonus to Scan Resolution reduced to 500% (from 900%)
Networked Sensor Array no longer gives a bonus to number of locked targets.
Networked Sensor Array sensor strength bonuses now also apply to the Carrier's fighter squadrons.
Fighters now have orbit ranges more appropriate to their weapons system (you can see this in Show Info)
General Light Fighters (Templar, Dragonfly, Firbolg, Einherji) have had their basic attack application stats increased and their heavy rocket salvo application & damage stats decreased:
Basic Attack - Explosion Radius (lower is better): 160 (-80)
Basic Attack - Explosion Velocity (higher is better): 150 (+30)
Heavy Rocket Salvo - Explosion Radius (lower is better): 350 (+250)
Heavy Rocket Salvo - Explosion Velocity (higher is better): 100 (-20)
Heavy Rocket Salvo - Speed: 14 seconds (-4)
Heavy Rocket Salvo - Damage (Average): 146 (-94)
Heavy Rocket Salvo - Charges: 12 (+4)
Heavy Rocket Salvo - Reload Time: 4 seconds (-2)
* All stats per fighter, before skills/mods.

Morris posted:

Aren't they also boosting the sensor strengths of fighters, or did they drop that? Previously the "counter" was "lol bring a ton of griffins" so it sounds more like they're taking with one hand but giving with the other.

LemonDrizzle posted:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=484374


Yes, as above. Now T2 light fighters will have 10.5 sensor strength and T2 support fighters will have 12, so the ECM solution has gone from "bring one rook/falcon/kitsune per hostile carrier" to "bring one rook/falcon/kitsune per hostile carrier and also an infolink tengu for your fleet". However, with carriers losing the "lol, delete this subcap" button, you can get by just fine with a couple of logi instead, which are probably more useful.

LemonDrizzle posted:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=484374


Yes, as above. Now T2 light fighters will have 10.5 sensor strength and T2 support fighters will have 12, so the ECM solution has gone from "bring one rook/falcon/kitsune per hostile carrier" to "bring one rook/falcon/kitsune per hostile carrier and also an infolink tengu for your fleet". However, with carriers losing the "lol, delete this subcap" button, you can get by just fine with a couple of logi instead, which are probably more useful.

Happy Dolphin posted:

I kinda expected just a tiny bit more mutual respect from the people I had spent 2 years in a jabber channel with, talking to almost daily.

goninzo posted:

Sorry to see you go, let me know when you burn out a bit more.

Landsknecht posted:

would you ever list it on your CV? Like "volunteer treasurer/financial director for hobby interest group with over 9.000 members" or something like that?

Syndic Thrass posted:

Syndic Thrass posted:

syndic thrass: best poster and very space important

evilweasel posted:

Legal field isn't too keen on odd hobbies so no, especially since I can now point to work stuff I've done with those skills instead. If I was in another field I might, but law firms (a) don't like you to have hobbies you might want to do instead of work all the time and (b) don't really like anything that seems odd since marketing lawyers is so much about prestige and reputation. Plus I've been working long enough I have plenty of work stuff I can fill it with - if I was just graduating from college or the like, then it would make more sense since I'd then need to beef it up from summer jobs and other space-filling stuff.

evilweasel posted:

still am, yep, which remains one of the most bizarre hobbies i could have imagined having in my life

i've had to lie when asked at work how I got so good at spreadsheets

Xolve posted:

Youtuber (Salastil)- Old GoonFleet ISRAD guy. ISRAD is now in PL.

Unfunny Poster (Tallardar)- Former GSFs graduated Waffles (SniggWaffe) and commited crimes against PL culture by graduating to HABIT.

Viva Miriya (Mandozer)- Former everywhere. Currently an on-again, off-again ISRAD member. Holds record for number of times 'going gently caress goons'.

Foehammer is Foehammer, and he's in BAT.

Penif posts occasionally but I forget his SA name.

Orange Red Bull posted:

theres also jeffraider with the insane 2001 regdate but he only posts here once a year, no upvotes in it

VideoGames posted:

Kismesus is another currently active player. I think in SNIGG. He gave me a ton of advice in game which was seriously awesome.

evilweasel posted:

still am, yep, which remains one of the most bizarre hobbies i could have imagined having in my life

i've had to lie when asked at work how I got so good at spreadsheets

Elsa posted:

yes because he really regd when he was, like, 12

Orange Red Bull posted:

shut up frozenpussy make me some scantily clad anime babes

Kalenn Istarion posted:

Yeah lawyers traditionally suck at excel so it's proof you're into something weird and unusual, which as you note is bad for a legal career, unless, perhaps, you got into video game law.

evilweasel posted:

on the other hand being the maintainer of the excel sheet that is dark magic to everyone else, as someone noted, is fantastic job security, most lawyer spreadsheets involve people typing in the numbers, then pulling out a calculator to add those numbers up and type the total in the 'total' box

goninzo posted:

Syndic, I'll see you when Am0k passes the spy test into PL.

Syndic Thrass posted:

I used to pay my plex alphaing untanked industrials on the jita in gates before you could set desto to stations with arty apocalypse because they insured really well. That was a cool and good thing I did once

evilweasel posted:

on the other hand being the maintainer of the excel sheet that is dark magic to everyone else, as someone noted, is fantastic job security, most lawyer spreadsheets involve people typing in the numbers, then pulling out a calculator to add those numbers up and type the total in the 'total' box

Divine Blob posted:

What got you into it?

goninzo posted:

Just be careful you don't confuse Kismesus and Kismeteer, two different dudes. Cause Kismeteer is one who gave you a ton of advice in game. (Currently in Bat Country, part of PL)

evilweasel posted:

on the other hand being the maintainer of the excel sheet that is dark magic to everyone else, as someone noted, is fantastic job security, most lawyer spreadsheets involve people typing in the numbers, then pulling out a calculator to add those numbers up and type the total in the 'total' box

goninzo posted:

Just be careful you don't confuse Kismesus and Kismeteer, two different dudes. Cause Kismeteer is one who gave you a ton of advice in game. (Currently in Bat Country, part of PL)

evilweasel posted:

If I was in another field I might, but law firms (a) don't like you to have hobbies you might want to do instead of work all the time and (b) don't really like anything that seems odd since marketing lawyers is so much about prestige and reputation.

Syndic Thrass posted:

I used to pay my plex alphaing untanked industrials on the jita in gates before you could set desto to stations with arty apocalypse because they insured really well. That was a cool and good thing I did once

evilweasel posted:

Some of the people I played alpha centuari play by email games with on SA were into eve and got me into EVE generally. Once in, just a little spreadsheeting at first to figure out some production thing, it's no big deal, everyone is doing it, then running a reactor farm and needing to work out how much money I was making since nobody else in goonfleet really used the model I was using (the initial "set up a giant farm in a system a JF delivery service runs to" reactor farm), and then sure enough soon it's a full blown addiction and I'm working out the derived prices of all of the p4s that were getting introduced based on the existing prices and discovering the massive mispricing of guidance systems and collecting hundreds of billions of isk.

I became CFO after the delve collapse and it's been interesting since it's a lot of just figuring out what's going on everywhere in eve which is what I find really interesting. A lot of the patch speculation aryth, querns, and other finance people and I do dovetails into it nicely - we try to make sure the alliance is positioned to weather expected changes in how moneymaking works and the like. It's fun to puzzle out, and it's mostly from jabber puzzling stuff out instead of in-game so I can do it from wherever, whenever.

Elsa posted:

and which anime babe would you like.

evilweasel posted:

on the other hand being the maintainer of the excel sheet that is dark magic to everyone else, as someone noted, is fantastic job security, most lawyer spreadsheets involve people typing in the numbers, then pulling out a calculator to add those numbers up and type the total in the 'total' box

Reverand maynard posted:

you're both k names that got kicked for throwing a temper tantrum so there isn't that much of a need to differentiate

Orange Red Bull posted:

shut up frozenpussy make me some scantily clad anime babes

Rhymenoserous posted:

Won't happen. Someone's entire income stream since the war started was to repeatedly sell amok to various alliances and "betray the goons".

Anyone who has a non goon corp in GSF that didn't do this missed out.

Reverand maynard posted:

I used to want to join PL but god drat there are a lot of ex test types that are annoying as gently caress.

Dalael posted:

Don't underestimate how bad I am at this game. I'm sure there's a point where Grath would yell out, "Screw you, that was the last super we reimburse you!"