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‘It’s Hard Being Away From You All,’ Says Donald Trump While Spreading Bird Feed Around Rooftop Pigeon Coop
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Jun 20, 2016 19:11
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Uh he has a deciding vote in the senate in case of a 50-50 split, you know the senate that now requires enough votes to break a filibuster to get any legislation passed at all
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Jun 20, 2016 19:11
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Al! posted:Uh he has a deciding vote in the senate in case of a 50-50 split, you know the senate that now requires enough votes to break a filibuster to get any legislation passed at all yeah but he's not going to go rogue and vote against the administration's agenda
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Jun 20, 2016 19:13
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Grey Fox posted:I'm pretty sure the Earth would split in two if you put Biden and Warren in close proximity with each other. or they cancel each other out and leave a small pool of water behind
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Jun 20, 2016 19:13
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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/744895222467825664
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Jun 20, 2016 19:13
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Karl Sharks posted:yeah but he's not going to go rogue and vote against the administration's agenda I'm saying he won't ever have to wield that power
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Jun 20, 2016 19:14
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Al! posted:I'm saying he won't ever have to wield that power oh fair enough, that was my bad misreading it, day has just been crazy
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Jun 20, 2016 19:15
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Karl Sharks posted:aren't some of his policies kinda lovely for a democrat? he's got a great personality and is good at using his experience to work legislation, but heard he wouldn't be best choice for president He says 200k a year in income is "middle class", has advocated for social security cuts/grand bargains, and his state is heavily run by the insurance and banking industries which he supports. So... he's exactly where the main stream of the Democratic party is and all of it's leadership is and 100% aligned with Pelosi, Obama, Clinton, Schumer, Reid, and Wasserman. Really those "lovely" economic policies are the only thing on the table for Democrats. The notion that the Democratic party is for the working class or the party of New Deal is just as farcical as the Republicans claiming they are the party of civil rights and Abe Lincoln. If you think 200k is not middle class, object to grand bargains that cut entitlements, don't think that "defined benefit" plans like social security are bad, or have a problem with venture capital and insurance your problem isn't Joe Biden, your problem is the Democratic party. Keep in mind that Social Security privatization was a Bill Clinton idea that only failed due to Monica, but we still got financial deregulation and free trade that benefited blue states while destroying rural red states. Also keep in mind that Obama was pushing for Social Security cuts before he even ran for president, and almost got them but the Tea Party hosed it all up. So if you object to these "lovely Biden policies"... um you object to the Democratic party!
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Jun 20, 2016 19:16
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pangstrom posted:Mormons-in-general are legit nice and have decent educations so while white-as-gently caress I can see them giving the thumbs down to Trump. Would be surprised if Utah went blue but Trump doesn't have a lot going for him so who knows. Counterpoint: abortion, the end of days, gay marriage, guns, and secularism. They might spoil for Gary Johnson but they would vote Trump ahead of Clinton. I got raised by some crazy rear end mormons.
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Jun 20, 2016 19:16
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RCP national polling average - June 20, 2008: Obama 47.5, McCain 42.0 (O +5.5) RCP national polling average - June 20, 2012: Obama 46.6, Romney 44.4 (O +2.2) RCP national polling average - June 20, 2016: Clinton 45.4, Trump 39.4 (C +6.0)
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Jun 20, 2016 19:17
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Grognan posted:Counterpoint: abortion, the end of days, gay marriage, guns, and secularism. They might spoil for Gary Johnson but they would vote Trump ahead of Clinton. I got raised by some crazy rear end mormons. Why would they vote for Trump ahead of Clinton, though? He's a pro-gay, anti-gun secular republican. He has nothing to offer the mormon community other than an expectation of support for (R) legislation. I think religious groups are going to be Trump's weakest "loyalist" blocs because they were mainly voting R because R pandered to them directly. If Trump won't do it I don't see them holding onto the religious vote.
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Jun 20, 2016 19:18
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paranoid randroid posted:i wish i could remember the name of that bald turtleneck youtube guy who has all those videos of him swirling whiskey in a glass while sitting in front of a cabinet full of anime figurines and skulls and saying things like " now, i love the blacks, but..."  Davis "tiny wheenie" Aurini is his name 
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Jun 20, 2016 19:18
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Slate Action posted:RCP national polling average - June 20, 2008: Obama 47.5, McCain 42.0 (O +5.5) seems like she should be polling better against a clown, considering obama had half her experience and mccain was a POW
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Jun 20, 2016 19:19
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quote:Outside the campaign, Hicks's colleagues gossip about whether she'll regret her heady first brush with politics. “She made a choice to work for the most fascist candidate in recent American history,” one political spokesperson told me. “Everyone who knows her tells her to stop doing this and putting her name on stuff.… She is going to regret everything she's said and done. And I don't think she knows it yet.” okay so am i crazy for thinking hicks seems okay and should have a go at working in politics if she enjoys it? would have to know her more personally since she's not shown much about herself, but feels like she's gotten pushed onto an incredibly high up ledge and has been doing well enough to hang on. can't imagine how most people would do as trump's press secretary for their first job in politics i mean it's not like she really applied for the job, she was plucked from working with ivanka to do this job for trump, so i'm leaning towards giving her credit where credit is due and wouldn't blacklist her/immediately dump her resume if i was working in that field
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Jun 20, 2016 19:21
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Radbot posted:seems like she should be polling better against a clown, considering obama had half her experience and mccain was a POW are ya still spite-voting for trump
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Jun 20, 2016 19:21
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https://twitter.com/LizMair/status/744957083741609985 https://twitter.com/LizMair/status/744957209902100480 Liz Mair ran the first anti-Trump pac, was the first #NeverTrump, and was the one who dropped the infamous "Melania naked" ad.
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Jun 20, 2016 19:22
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paranoid randroid posted:i wish i could remember the name of that bald turtleneck youtube guy who has all those videos of him swirling whiskey in a glass while sitting in front of a cabinet full of anime figurines and skulls and saying things like " now, i love the blacks, but..." reminder that he just owns one skull he moves around, and his name is mcarthur
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Jun 20, 2016 19:22
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Radbot posted:seems like she should be polling better against a clown, considering obama had half her experience and mccain was a POW what do you expect in this polarized world? you could put up a used tampon with an R next to it and get at least 35%
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Jun 20, 2016 19:23
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Quote of dayquote:“I’ve said on occasion, even about myself, if I were starting off today I would love to be a well-educated black because I really believe they do have an actual advantage today.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-e...RHnrzbza-MTQM2g
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Jun 20, 2016 19:23
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Montasque posted:https://twitter.com/LizMair/status/744957083741609985
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Jun 20, 2016 19:24
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one thing i like about that is he thinks you can start off well-educated i think he just means rich?
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Jun 20, 2016 19:25
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pangstrom posted:Mormons-in-general are legit nice and have decent educations so while white-as-gently caress I can see them giving the thumbs down to Trump. Would be surprised if Utah went blue but Trump doesn't have a lot going for him so who knows. Brannock posted:I knew a bunch of Mormons while growing up and aside from their wacko religion and harassment/stalking of apostates they're the most whitebread perfect-60s-nuclear-family Americans possible. I can't see them voting for Trump at all. There's two things that make Trump toxic for Mormons (aside from the obvious Trump being an idiot thing) 1) Mormons almost all do missionary work, mostly in South America and Asia. They have a really low tolerance towards racist/nativist bigotry. 2) Mormons in the 19th century were a fringe cult regarded as heretic/insane that ran away to Utah to get away from pogroms. They have a really low tolerance towards religious bigotry.
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Jun 20, 2016 19:25
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i loved Liz Mairs debut album, Exile in Trumpville
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Jun 20, 2016 19:25
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Not convinced being the news is the same as winning it.
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Jun 20, 2016 19:26
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Grey Fox posted:I can't really disagree with her. All publicity is good publicity, just ask OJ
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Jun 20, 2016 19:26
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I think the judge controversy proved that not all press is good press.
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Jun 20, 2016 19:27
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Montasque posted:https://twitter.com/LizMair/status/744957083741609985 This will be the third race in a row in which the Republicans obsess about "winning the day" while losing the election.
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Jun 20, 2016 19:27
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Top City Homo posted:
just checked his youtube and yep, still hilarious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiS6CE-Y6bo
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Jun 20, 2016 19:28
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Montasque posted:https://twitter.com/LizMair/status/744957083741609985 everyone knows that being on trial is the same as winning the trial
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Jun 20, 2016 19:28
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Liz Mair hates Trump's guts and wants him to lose badly. I think that's very important to point out.
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Jun 20, 2016 19:29
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Lum_ posted:There's two things that make Trump toxic for Mormons (aside from the obvious Trump being an idiot thing) Mormons had an official no blacks policy and their religion called them children of Cain. They tolerated quite a bit of racism and nativism. The larger issue is that Trump does best with downscale whites in areas where diversity and immigration have been used to flood the market with cheap labor or jobs have been farmed out. Utah is white as hell and hasn't had any of the ill effects of immigration and diversity, and Mormons as a whole tend to be fairly well off economically.
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Jun 20, 2016 19:29
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update on the youtube situation - well still lost in the loving desret w/ my stupid hat
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Jun 20, 2016 19:31
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paranoid randroid posted:update on the youtube situation - well still lost in the loving desret w/ my stupid hat someone asked where in cowboy-land is he and he said in an undisclosed location deep in the mojave he knows, like scott adams, he will be a top 10 assassination target in the upcoming clinton/obama led race war
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Jun 20, 2016 19:33
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Top City Homo posted:
of everything i hate about this photo, it's that he's smoking indoors 
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Jun 20, 2016 19:33
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Montasque posted:Liz Mair hates Trump's guts and wants him to lose badly. That's fine I just fuckin hate that aphorism
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Jun 20, 2016 19:33
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Mirthless posted:Why would they vote for Trump ahead of Clinton, though? He's a pro-gay, anti-gun secular republican. He has nothing to offer the mormon community other than an expectation of support for (R) legislation. I think religious groups are going to be Trump's weakest "loyalist" blocs because they were mainly voting R because R pandered to them directly. If Trump won't do it I don't see them holding onto the religious vote. Because mormon fundamentalism is literally wanting the end of days to happen. Between that and sheer loathing spite against anything progressive, they'll vote trump.
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Jun 20, 2016 19:33
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Deteriorata posted:This will be the third race in a row in which the Republicans obsess about "winning the day" while losing the election. What an odd move from the party who responded to the Obama victory by handing the keys over to Sarah Palin and her merry band of 70 year olds who couldn't decide what they were actually mad about and telling them every terrible thought that ever popped into their head is real.
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Jun 20, 2016 19:34
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update on the youtube sitch - hiding in scrubland wastes from people callling me a bald anime spaz on twitter
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Jun 20, 2016 19:35
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Karl Sharks posted:
as much as they hate trump, i guarantee you that they hate hillary even more, there's a small possibility of johnson splitting off votes but id bet on utah and idaho staying red
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Jun 20, 2016 19:35
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MysteriousStranger posted:He says 200k a year in income is "middle class", Okay this is a pet peeve for me so skip to the next quote if you don't want to read about me griping about the common view of what an economic "middle class" really is. Yes 200k a year and thereabouts is middle class That people object so furiously to this is an excellent indicator of how successful we've become at convincing people that median and average wage, not actual financial freedom and capability, is a mark of the middle class. It also indicates exactly how loving stagnant our wages have become in real terms over the last several decades. Finally, it indicates the absurdity of $38k wage slaves considering themselves middle class Your 2016 $70k household with two full time workers barely qualifies as middle class in even the most lenient of definitions. One of the two workers losing their job would severely strain the household's finances. That's not something that an actually middle-class household has to worry about, since they're financially independent enough to be able to weather short-term setbacks without having to scavenge their long-term financial planning Of course this varies region by region but it's helpful to keep in mind that "middle class" describes a certain set of financial status. Right now in America I'd roughly estimate that the middle class makes up like 10% of the population (if that) Lum_ posted:There's two things that make Trump toxic for Mormons (aside from the obvious Trump being an idiot thing) Ah yeah I'd forgotten about the missionary work and religious bigotry angle on this. Thanks for the reminder Bush made international travel as an American embarrassing, I can't imagine how much worse Trump would make it
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Jun 20, 2016 19:36
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