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LGD posted:Many of the people in this thread had money in SC at one point, and even those who didn't probably have made a stupid crowdfunding mistake- i.e. I backed the Deluxe Exalted 3E Kickstarter, which has been about as much of a shitshow as a Kickstarter can be while still (probably) eventually delivering the goods. Oh! Oh! That's me. I'm the Deluxe Exalted 3E backer. AMA. Edit: In honor of my shame, have a gamer cat. 
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peter gabriel posted:Have a deep respect for her that is definitely me, friend
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tuo posted:I'm on a similar Kickstarter (not regarding scale, but delay). Started out great, with a delivery goal of within half a year after backing. It is now over two years after backing, and most of the backers realized that the guy who started it has no clue about how to run a business whatsoever (allthough he used to have a business...until you talk to people in the industry who know him and give you advice to stay clear), and obviously got major help when setting up the kickstarter. Communication is a mess, because he constantly has "mental issues", everytime he talks about how he negotiates the next, important step in fullfilling he goes into hiding for another three weeks before (after all the backer riot due to no news) telling that again he was not able to come to terms with someone in the production chain, and everything takes even longer. I think that, for Kickstarter to progress, they need to change the way pledges work. Pledges should not be an amount you give up right, if you pledge $1000, you are debited $1000 from your account, and then Kickstarter should hold that, of which, a base amount is credited to the campaign funds the moment it is funded, and the rest is credited monthly up until the day of delivery (ALL Kickstarters should have an estimated delivery date). You can't ask for a refund for anything until the day of delivery passes, but you can suspend the monthly pledge.
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tuo posted:"They forced me to do it!!!" That sucks, man. They look awesome. I was considering backing Kingdom Death (http://kingdomdeath.com/) way back, but gave up on it because i was out of money at the time.
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Beet Wagon posted:is that some sort of procedurally generated miniature maker? Cause I don't blame you for being stupid enough to invest in it, that sounds awesome as poo poo. The guy himself seems to have awesome talent regarding scultping/digital scultping etc. I give him that. The stuff he does looks great...in JPEGs. Hopefully, he delivers sooner or later.
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:who did you scam Sold my original Rift before it shipped for a good profit. Got a gree Rift CV1. Sperglord posted:Dropfleet's communication sucks. Really sucks... Really? They've been pushing out sprue pictures and stuff and all teh stuff from the playtests days was splurged all over the net. They seem to be doing ok to me.
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orcinus posted:Catte from my walk earlier: Ewok catte
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Man, dropfleet looks really cool. I'm kind of glad I'm finding out about this stuff after the fact. I could be out a lot more money to various kickstarters than I am now.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Yeah I've been getting regular DFC updates. Also, the head guy seems nice and not like a semolina-filled condom with a face and black sweater badly drawn on. Beet, someone said "head guy". Show him your wares.
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TTerrible posted:Really? They've been pushing out sprue pictures and stuff and all teh stuff from the playtests days was splurged all over the net. They seem to be doing ok to me. I think of it the other way around, we get sprues infrequently, but very little concrete information on the state of the game: sprue production vs. goal; state of rules; state of printing, etc. So, I have high worries about them delivering in the next two months, because there is little concrete information on how they are now in terms of meeting the production / packing goals. So far, the best communication is from Infinity, which does weekly updates.
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orcinus posted:That sucks, man. When I was in full "I have to back stuff, it's what you do nowadays" mode, I also saw Kingdom Death and was sad that the backing period was over. Couple of time later, after reading on some blogs what went down with that KS, my sadness went away. Still, they produce some crazy stuff. At least the only other thing I backed, I got a wheel nut from.
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fnox posted:I think that, for Kickstarter to progress, they need to change the way pledges work. Pledges should not be an amount you give up right, if you pledge $1000, you are debited $1000 from your account, and then Kickstarter should hold that, of which, a base amount is credited to the campaign funds the moment it is funded, and the rest is credited monthly up until the day of delivery (ALL Kickstarters should have an estimated delivery date). You can't ask for a refund for anything until the day of delivery passes, but you can suspend the monthly pledge. And additionally, the amount pledged to a certain point needs to be publicly available information (as it influences the success of the project). However, you cannot hold funds at day of delivery - Kickstarter is not about guaranteeing projects are successful. They are only a medium to get project starts the funds to attempt to succeed. If a project creator is not successful in the project, then perhaps there can be a mechanism to allow recompense to a backer, but Kickstarter is only a middleman (they only handle a transaction between the creator/backer). Doing it your way makes them liable in the event of a wrong-doing or project failure in which the creator has not made every reasonable attempt to provide remedy or conclusion to the backer.
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This is the neck they used for imps in Doom 3.
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spacetoaster posted:*looks at Ben's website* That is a lie. Lesnick makes me think of a chunk of dialogue from Manhunter: Manhunter posted:Will Graham: This started from an abused kid, a battered infant... There's something terrible about... Sunswipe fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Jun 20, 2016 |
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peter gabriel posted:I am unsure what has occurred here You are missing out on a very good SciFi TV series.
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https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/334205/cat-and-dragonfly-sales-raise-433-529-in-one-day HEY GUYS, LOOK HOW GOOD OUR CUSTOMER SUPPORT IS, VERY HELPFUL
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Daztek posted:https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/334205/cat-and-dragonfly-sales-raise-433-529-in-one-day So Sandi got her amd-mail-address back, which she uses for alts, after her husband send that drat letter, and she had to apologize to AMD during E3 (Operation "Chicken")? That's nice 
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Daztek posted:https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/334205/cat-and-dragonfly-sales-raise-433-529-in-one-day Also, Sandi, you misspelled Dragonfly in your signature, pls fix
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tuo posted:I don't get that "drat Americans" thing because I haven't been on here for too long... It was mainly me trying to be funny? But, apparently on the Internet, we are all loudmouthed, heavily armed neobarbarians, or so I have been told. Sounds lovely, recipewise. Although I am sure I will be hating you as I look at the pictures.
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Sperglord posted:I think of it the other way around, we get sprues infrequently, but very little concrete information on the state of the game: sprue production vs. goal; state of rules; state of printing, etc. I guess so. Latest email mentioned they'd started packing I think? I trust in Hawk.  Lladre posted:You are missing out on a very good SciFi TV series. Yes. A very good one. Watch it, spacecat.
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Sperglord posted:That isn't quite the same parallel. CIG has used Derek Smart to deflect away criticism of the game. The tactic is to defeat the criticism by associating it with an unsavory person. This tactic has is used very often in many contexts, so we shouldn't be too hard on backers for not realizing it. I suppose, I meant more for Shitizens than CIG. So many of them see Derek and just go "OH WHO CARES, HES ALWAYS WRONG AND FULL OF poo poo", regardless of whether his points hold weight or not.
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Daztek posted:https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/334205/cat-and-dragonfly-sales-raise-433-529-in-one-day Drangonfly 
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Daztek posted:https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/334205/cat-and-dragonfly-sales-raise-433-529-in-one-day Yep, looks like CS went back into the storeroom and found the jpegs he was looking for.
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peter gabriel posted:JAMES BELLEND Postin' from a few pages back but hahaha
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Samizdata posted:It was mainly me trying to be funny? But, apparently on the Internet, we are all loudmouthed, heavily armed neobarbarians, or so I have been told. I don't want you to hate me. I will do my best that the pictures are as less hateable as possible! (if that is not a valid english sentence (it seems off to me), I am very sorry, but my friends that speak that language had to leave my country (Germany, Heidelberg/Mannheim), I am getting more and more rusty in it by the day, sadly, as it is not my native tongue). E: I am also mostly joking...I just can't translate it very well. So the best idea is to not take me serious.
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SelenicMartian posted:This is the neck they used for imps in Doom 3. I think it got used a lot in Deep Space Nine as well.
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tuo posted:I don't want you to hate me. I will do my best that the pictures are as less hateable as possible! (if that is not a valid english sentence (it seems off to me), I am very sorry, but my friends that speak that language had to leave my country (Germany, Heidelberg/Mannheim), I am getting more and more rusty in it by the day, sadly, as it is not my native tongue). It pleases me that you closed all the parentheses correctly here.
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I backed the new Torment game on KS (the only thing I've backed as well) and I would be annoyed at the length of time it's taking, except I keep forgetting that it exists. Plus the beta was pretty fun and interesting, so we'll see how that translates to the full game.
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tuo posted:I'm on a similar Kickstarter (not regarding scale, but delay). Started out great, with a delivery goal of within half a year after backing. It is now over two years after backing, and most of the backers realized that the guy who started it has no clue about how to run a business whatsoever (allthough he used to have a business...until you talk to people in the industry who know him and give you advice to stay clear), and obviously got major help when setting up the kickstarter. Communication is a mess, because he constantly has "mental issues", everytime he talks about how he negotiates the next, important step in fullfilling he goes into hiding for another three weeks before (after all the backer riot due to no news) telling that again he was not able to come to terms with someone in the production chain, and everything takes even longer. Might I ask which Kickstarter?
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Samizdata posted:loudmouthed, heavily armed neobarbarian this describes me irl
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