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Badger of Basra posted:how much cash on hand does hillary have? Seeing people on twitter saying $42M but haven't verified myself yet
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TheTatteredKing posted:Some to most Bernie people think Trump is beating Hillary in pills because they're living in the past poo poo, even loving Rasmussen says Hillary's the most likely to get elected at this moment. Also, I wouldn't say most Bernie supporters are that crazy. Aren't like 75% of Bernie supporters fine with voting for Clinton?
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Slate Action posted:Wait, so the entire RNC has less money than the Clinton campaign spent on ad buys just this past week But Trump can control the ~media~ which means that ad buys magically become unnecessary. If things continue as trending I think it's going to be a 49 state wipeout. The state Trump takes is up to you, but my money's on Texas.
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neonnoodle posted:Can someone help me out with an explanation on how the finances for all these things work? Like, the Trump campaign has certain funds in cash, but what do they have that isn't cash? Same question for the RNC generally. And how do the SuperPACs fit into this? Are they just for TV ads and other promotional material or do they help with phone banking/other campaign activities? superpacs are, in theory, disconnected from candidates and parties and there's no limit to donations to them. i don't think there's maximums to rnc/dnc contributions? but those are used for the presidential campaign, and funds also go to downticket races for those parties. candidate contributions are limited to 2,700 for the primary and general, so 5,400 total, and can only be used for that candidates run.
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so waht im getting here is that Lewandowski got to take the fall for the Trump campaign being totally ramshackle
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neonnoodle posted:Can someone help me out with an explanation on how the finances for all these things work? Like, the Trump campaign has certain funds in cash, but what do they have that isn't cash? Same question for the RNC generally. And how do the SuperPACs fit into this? Are they just for TV ads and other promotional material or do they help with phone banking/other campaign activities? What non-cash things are you thinking about? It's not like the RNC flips foreclosed houses at a profit or something. And assets they might have like voter databases require staff to operate, maintain, and so on—and that requires money. SuperPACs can buy all the ads and send all the mailers they want, and that's a big help. However, they can't engage in obvious coordination with the party or the candidate's campaign, and they can't pay the bills for either. If the RNC desperately needs money for staffing, internal polling, or GOTV, for instance, a SuperPAC can't help that much. SuperPAcs also pay much higher ad rates than the campaigns themselves pay, which means their money is less efficient.
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Speaking of, do we know how much wink-nudge collusion takes place between campaigns and PACs? Is there like a contract bridge bidding thing, where you open with a bid of two clubs in order to ask your partner what their hand looks like? Is there an obvious signalling mechanism, is what I'm asking.
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paranoid randroid posted:so waht im getting here is that Lewandowski got to take the fall for the Trump campaign being totally ramshackle This morning: Donald Trump fires a man for running a campaign focused solely on stroking Trump's ego. This afternoon: Donald Trump fires a man for sending an embarrassing tweet. But definitely no problems at the top. Trump has made no mistakes.
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I just wanna state that for all the bluster of the RNC having $19m cash in hand, the DNC isn't doing much better (not that it needs to worry, they have a strong candidate): As of last month, the DNC had $9m compared to the RNC's $17m.
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Or maybe campaigns and PACs could hire the same consultants, who just happen to give both clients the same advice.
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Montasque posted:Rush talking about the Lewandoswki firing. I have to admit, I'm a dem and I do think Republicans are more of a threat to America than ISIS.
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SunAndSpring posted:poo poo, even loving Rasmussen says Hillary's the most likely to get elected at this moment. Anyone still supporting Bernie is basically a bernout. Most of those 75% switched weeks ago. Either their rabid lunatics or they're idiots like my boss who clearly tuned out weeks ago and pretends she has any idea what she's talking about.
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f#a# posted:I just wanna state that for all the bluster of the RNC having $19m cash in hand, the DNC isn't doing much better (not that it needs to worry, they have a strong candidate):
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you guys are just overblowing this whole situation anyway, Trump hasn't even started campaigning yet, just wait until he gets going!
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Ahahahaha wow, welp I guess Trump's reality bubble is confirmed. Oh god election night is gonna be 2012 all over again, but better. Pook Good Mook posted:Ugh. Is there anyone in the loving Republican Party that's even halfway redeemable as a decent human being?
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Adam Scott is gonna play this dork in the movie right
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Regular Nintendo posted:Adam Scott is gonna play this dork in the movie right
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MC Nietzche posted:But Trump can control the ~media~ which means that ad buys magically become unnecessary. If things continue as trending I think it's going to be a 49 state wipeout. The state Trump takes is up to you, but my money's on Texas. new york, the working class white democrats will offer it to him.
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Paul Manafort patiently explains to Trump that traditionally you have to wait until after youre elected to liquidate the press
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JT Jag posted:Of course, unlike the Trump campaign, the DNC and Hillary's campaign apparatus have already started merging To reinforce: according to the Twitter: "Combined with Priorities USA, this means pro-Clinton players have about $94 million on hand as of May 31. As for Trump? Don't know yet."
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Squizzle posted:Speaking of, do we know how much wink-nudge collusion takes place between campaigns and PACs? Is there like a contract bridge bidding thing, where you open with a bid of two clubs in order to ask your partner what their hand looks like? Is there an obvious signalling mechanism, is what I'm asking. remember all that insanely weird footage of the ted cruz and his family that's floating around? that was sneakily released to the general public as an uncut reel by the campaign, specifically so superpacs could get that kind of footage without the technical collaboration of having them sit down with the superpac mormonpartyboat fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Jun 20, 2016 |
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Regular Nintendo posted:Adam Scott is gonna play this dork in the movie right More like Scott Adams
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Jewel Repetition posted:I have to admit, I'm a dem and I do think Republicans are more of a threat to America than ISIS.
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MC Nietzche posted:But Trump can control the ~media~ which means that ad buys magically become unnecessary. If things continue as trending I think it's going to be a 49 state wipeout. The state Trump takes is up to you, but my money's on Texas. Nah, Texas would flip before plenty of states. Oklahoma, Idaho, Mississippi, Alabama, those ones up top where no one lives, etc.
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Internet Webguy posted:This is the reason he isn't talking poo poo about the Trump campaign, he knows it. He still refuses to bite the hand that fed him because he has no other prospects politically. Imagine Kanye vs Trump. Imagine the tweets. 
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So if I'm reading that itemizer correctly, the RNC had 53m cash in May '08, 60m cash in May '12, and about 20m cash in May '16. woof
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this is hugely impt too - locking down media early https://twitter.com/Kantar_Media/status/745005111152254976 quote:"Believe me folks, they're false ads," he recently told supporters in California. "They are so false. Ah, some of them aren't so false. Mostly."
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ReidRansom posted:Nah, Texas would flip before plenty of states. Oklahoma, Idaho, Mississippi, Alabama, those ones up top where no one lives, etc. Mississippi would go sooner than you think because they have the largest black population. Idaho might go a little sooner than you think because they've got Mormons. OK and AL would be the very last two to flip, I think. Or possibly NE.
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fade5 posted:Lindsey Graham, if he can be convinced that Hillary is hawkish enough for his tastes. * Against abortion (which is weird, since the previous item would resolve most of that  )* Supports abstinence-only education in public schools * Supports school vouchers * Supported a ban on same-sex couples adopting children * Supported an amendment to ban gay marriage * Against re-authorizing the Violence Against Women Act * Voted to increase the number of prisons, and voted AGAINST funding rehabilitation over prison sentences * Voted to make it more difficult to appeal the death penalty (including removing the right of habeas corpus) * Against medical marijuana and needle exchanges * Against the EPA regulating greenhouses gasses and doesn't want to hold businesses accountable (despite saying climate change is real) And the list goes on and on with typical Republican stances on everything. Yeah, he's a real winner.
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Piquai Souban posted:How does Trump's fundraising month compare to Romney's equivalent May? 34 million Romney to 13 million for trump
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thethreeman posted:this is hugely impt too - locking down media early uhhhhh can we get a scale on these circles please
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thethreeman posted:this is hugely impt too - locking down media early haha that is a fantastic quote.
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thethreeman posted:this is hugely impt too - locking down media early I clicked on the link and it's different now. $700k for Trump w/ 89 ads, versus Clinton @ 3,700 ads. Probably all playing at 2AM for Trump
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zen death robot posted:Pretty clever of Trump to get his tour of the south out of the way before deciding to hit the panic button and showing why he's suddenly dialing back the crazy over the next week or two yeah, it will definitely show well that he's spending this coming weekend in Scotland as well
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Joementum posted:The Trump "campaign" is kind of the best.
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