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EvanSchenck posted:[*] Bolton's pavise/pike infantry was put in to create a sensation of claustrophobia and impending doom, which worked well. However, they don't make any sense. Fully half of them are shieldbearers and effectively unarmed. Realistically, you would just have every man carry a pike, and the points would do the job of maintaining distance just as well and probably better than the shields, and they'd be much more lethal. The shields also make the formation basically immobile, so half Bolton's army was useless unless they were in the exact (extremely improbable) situation that happened at the climax of the battle.
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EvanSchenck posted:I'm just going to spoiler tag everything unless people think I should come back and edit that out. I for one appreciate it.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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100 Years Ago Both sides in the Caucasus are helpfully planning fresh offensives for July 5 or thereabouts; we might just be distracted by something. General Foch writes some interesting notes on battlefield infantry tactics; French tank-father Colonel Estienne visits Britain to keep them from doing anything rash; Henri Desagneaux is still not dead; Oskar Teichman gets unpleasant orders; Edward Mousley is marching on; Louis Barthas has been specially selected for a specially secret mission; and Evelyn Southwell is still rather upset at having lost a good friend. sarmhan posted:I think Britain would have seen any attempt by Germany to build a strong fleet as a threat to national security, since the defense of Britain depended on local naval hegemony. If Wilhelm hadn't been a moron, Germany could have maintained its solid relationship instead of driving Britain into an alliance with two of its historical enemies. Here's the thing about a fleet of long-range commerce-raiding armoured cruisers. Cruisers can be used anywhere in the world to annoy any other empire you'd care to name. There are a whole lot of interesting and amusing things one could do with a load of cruiser squadrons running around. None of those things are "sail into the North Sea and destroy the British battleship fleet as a prelude to invasion". You don't fight battleships with commerce raiders; you fight them with more battleships, which is also pretty much the only thing battleships are good for. From London, more cruisers are a potential threat to your empire, but more battleships are a direct, immediate, and targeted threat whose only possible use can be against your homeland. Trin Tragula fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Jun 21, 2016 |
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Jun 21, 2016 00:54
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battleships also make yr dick bigger, tho
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If 30YW dudes had airships we would see some next level defenestrations.
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Cyrano4747 posted:If 30YW dudes had airships we would see some next level defenestrations. NO TICKET.
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Cyrano4747 posted:If 30YW dudes had airships we would see some next level defenestrations. Name one of the airships the Prague.
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Jun 21, 2016 02:46
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Archduke defenestration zeppelin sounds like it would be one of those really fun German compound words.
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xthetenth posted:Archduke defenestration zeppelin sounds like it would be one of those really fun German compound words. It would be pretty similar to 'archduke defenestration zeppelin'.
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Airship, rigid, Archduke defenestration, for the use of
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HEY GAL posted:it's also not good to stop being a pike block and become a blob. according to 17th century military theorists, bad things happen to you then. the pike thing only works in a disciplined formation. attempting to close in on your enemy by encircling them is also a blob. What happens?
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Can someone talk Napoleon? Why was he so successful? What, if any, were his most distinctive tactical and strategic innovations? How did his opponents begin to adapt to the French forces? (or, really, anything interesting about warfare from about the American revolution to before the civil war)
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Eela6 posted:Can someone talk Napoleon? Why was he so successful? What, if any, were his most distinctive tactical and strategic innovations? How did his opponents begin to adapt to the French forces? Off the top of my head: Created modern corps structure. He gave an enormous poo poo about the quality of his artillery and directed and used it in unprecedented masses and quantities. Tremendously emphasized the role of light infantry and skirmishing. Ran with big ideas/other things current in France and made the most of them, like innovations in combat medicine, mass conscription, more meritocracy in the army.
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HEY GAL posted:Gustavus II Adolphus was *sighs heavily, grits teeth* fine Setting aside Anglo-American protestant bias, I think part of his modern praise is that it's seen as just so wacky that Sweden was a major power, so he must have been doing something right, right? I know Sweden probably didn't qualify as a great power until after their 30yw gains (and thus after Gus Adolph), but was the relative Swedish success mostly just a result of getting involved a decade later after everybody had bloodied each other up good already? I guess I'm asking how much credit we should be giving to GAII? Or more directly, I feel as if I'm familiar with why you like like Wallenstein, Pappenheim, Tully, etc., but not so much why you think Gustavus was overrated and just fine (besides your dangerous and anti-American papism), and I would love to hear it.
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Raenir Salazar posted:What happens? Bolton pikemen surround the Stark infantry in a horseshoe shape, with retreat being cut off by a literal wall of corpses from the previous battle. The pikemen are set up in a weird as gently caress pattern (row of shields, row of pikes) and slowly and dramatically close in, stabbing a few Starks at a time. This somehow works, even though tightening the shield wall while still leaving a row of pikes behind it to stab seems incredibly difficult to coordinate. Also this whole formation is completely unprotected from all sides and gets easily wrecked by cavalry in reserve.
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Disinterested posted:It would be pretty similar to 'archduke defenestration zeppelin'. Erzherzogdefenestrationzeppelinen! Edit: All sorts of random countries have been major powers at one time or another, really. See also the Dutch. And Lithuania.
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Cyrano4747 posted:If 30YW dudes had airships we would see some next level defenestrations.
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Raenir Salazar posted:What happens? the way to beat a single pikeman is to take a small step to the side and pull it out of his hands
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HEY GAL posted:i read yesterday that the Gustav Vasa sword was almost destroyed by fire except some quick thinking curator tossed it out a window The Silver Bible was also thrown out the window when the old Swedish royal castle burned down, it hit a dude and almost killed him.
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Kemper Boyd posted:The Silver Bible was also thrown out the window when the old Swedish royal castle burned down, it hit a dude and almost killed him. wallenstein's corpse was almost thrown out the window until someone told Piccolomini it was a tasteless idea
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xthetenth posted:Archduke defenestration zeppelin sounds like it would be one of those really fun German compound words. For your pleasure, with a little twist. Erzherzogsfenstersturzzeppelinskapitänskajütenfenster.
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Elyv posted:Name one of the airships the Prague.
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Cythereal posted:I think that mostly comes down to Britain being paranoid about anyone who they thought might conceivably become a threat to the supremacy of the British Empire. That mentality was behind much of the British involvement in the War of 1812, for one. Britain seems to have consistently regarded "Our empire's prosperity shouldn't exist at the sufferance of the Royal Navy" as an existential threat to their own success. To be honest, I don't think Britain in 1812 felt particularly threatened by America in any kind of existential sense. It's not like the US Army was going to be marching down Whitehall, and the naval battle with France had already been fought and won. America started the war by invading Canada; having done so, of course Britain had to respond, what was it going to do, say 'oh OK fine you can have Ontario'? 
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Throatwarbler posted:Bismark's system was basically "whatever you do try and keep at least one of either France or Russia on your side or at worst neutral because trying to fight both of them at the same time is a bad idea guys" and it by all right should have worked fine because France is a relatively progressive democracy and Russia is Russia so why would they ever be on the same side? ...Why would they not? Countries don't ally because of starry eyed ideas about democracy. Pre-World War I French businesses were investing a lot in Russia, which by the way was also a democracy of sorts post-1905, albeit with a restrictive franchise, just like Germany.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Really, you can understand most of the history of Brandenburg/Prussia/Germany from the 30YW through WW2 as a series of attempts to expand while never, ever, EVER having enemies on two fronts which required some real gymnastics due to their location in Central Europe. They got much less good at this at the end. you're thinking of the Great Elector, who's later than that HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 10:48 on Jun 21, 2016 |
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SeanBeansShako posted:It's raining piss, poo poo and drunken half stabbed dudes. HEY GAL posted:hallelujah So uh, if either of you would write the script for this, I would pay to act in it 
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Can anyone recommend a book about Russia at the turn of 20th century? I'm looking for something that can explain, in broad strokes, the circumstances leading up to/after the civil war.
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Disinterested posted:Off the top of my head: Actually, he adapted and improved the corp structure and continued the tradition of refining the French army from Carnot who did some pretty cool things himself. Napoleon was indeed a great adapter, micro manager and not a crazy Jacobin or slothful Bourbon who brought stability, financial growth and success to France which is why he was and still is sort of beloved. And ironically because of this, the armies of the Coalition nations through experience and reform picked this up and made it work much better due to still having a core of battle hardened veterans and not fighting a war on several fronts. It is a strange thing that when the Grand Armee was at it's very height in numbers it hindered the man as he couldn't micro manage it all and had to entrust it to some of his lesser less dead Marshals. You know that guy I'm talking about. I wonder what history would have been like if had only lost half of his men during the 1812 campaign.
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Tias posted:So uh, if either of you would write the script for this, I would pay to act in it Danish porn, I tell ya
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They can't do super hero movies forever.
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There were a great number of official photos taken during WW2 by photographers of the Finnish Army and some of them are hilarious. Text in the caption marks is the official comment on the photo. https://www.flickr.com/photos/28384215@N00/27538462240/in/dateposted-public/ "Private Masalin grinds coffee with a hand grenade in a helmet. Kiestinki front 1941.08.14" https://www.flickr.com/photos/28384215@N00/27816667195/in/dateposted-public/ "The bear of Genral Major Kääriäinen with its caretaker. Syväri 1944.06.24" Both Kiestinki and Syväri were parts of the Finnish eastern front. Ataxerxes fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Jun 21, 2016 |
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tokenbrownguy posted:Can anyone recommend a book about Russia at the turn of 20th century? I'm looking for something that can explain, in broad strokes, the circumstances leading up to/after the civil war. He seems to have a soft spot for Prince Lyov but compared to the other figures of the time he was a pretty cool dude. I didn't know much of anything about the Russian revolution beforehand so I can't say if there are any major colorations in it. I found out that Trotsky was basically who I thought Lenin was, and Lenin was pretty much just an rear end.
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Ataxerxes posted:There were a great number of official photos taken during WW2 by photographers of the Finnish Army and some of them are hilarious. Text in the caption marks is the official comment on the photo. Repost the images. I can't see them.
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HEY GAL posted:i read yesterday that the Gustav Vasa sword was almost destroyed by fire except some quick thinking curator tossed it out a window Windows: is there a problem that can't be solved by throwing something out one?
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HEY GAL posted:brandenburg during the 30yw is not a big deal and interesting primarily because of its involvement in the baltic thing Yeah but the experience of the 30YW directly informed the great electors policies. I'm not saying it was a major player that early but it is a period that still highlighted to its rulers a lot of the major problems with their strategic position.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Windows: is there a problem that can't be solved by throwing something out one? Lack of Catholics
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Cyrano4747 posted:Windows: is there a problem that can't be solved by throwing something out one? Pumaman infestation
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VanSandman posted:Repost the images. I can't see them. Edited, moved them to flickr.
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JaucheCharly posted:For your pleasure, with a little twist. I'll let you know that I appreciate this.
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