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Knight
Dec 23, 2000

SPACE-A-HOLIC
Taco Defender
Edit - Wrong thread :/

Knight fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Jun 21, 2016

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WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Noam Chomsky posted:

If Obama threw out that line everyone would be talking about how cool he is. It's definitely a joke he would make.

Delivery and timing is everything with comedy. Granted, neither are traits I'm looking for in a President, Obama having them was just a nice bonus.

I look forward to Nerdy Hillary and most important Takes Zero poo poo From Republicans Hillary more than I care about White House Correspondents Dinner Hillary.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

This is the dude who said that all Trump fans jack it to anime right?

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Hilldog owns, bow down you stand before a queen crowned.

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake

Gorilla Desperado posted:

He's got some okay parts in the first half, it's later that he tilts off the plane. IMO of course.

It's definitely a fresh take on the gridlock we've been seeing in politics and offers the most compelling explanation I've seen so far. Lot's of people have been trying to wrangle an explanation for what we're seeing now and while his theory may not entirely explain it it's definitely a component we've been missing. I know it will be really easy to write anyone buying into this theory as being ':wotwot: oh the dirty rabble are rising up again' but going in the other direction I don't think anyone here would defend direct democracy as a tenable system of government.

It seems like if there's a balance between direct vs. representative we may be lopsided too heavily towards direct.

edit: I've been chewing this article over for the past few hours and I think that with the upcoming supreme court overhaul we may have a solution there, somehow. I dunno.

edit2: This article may be good for it's own thread maybe. Like I said it's a pretty fresh take that I'd like to see hashed out some more.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

This is the dude who said that all Trump fans jack it to anime right?

Yeah lol, that was good.

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008
Mentally ill is a pretty god drat huge umbrella that includes a wide variety of conditions. Should Lincoln not have been president because he very clearly suffered from Major Depressive Disorder?

Huzanko
Aug 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

WampaLord posted:

Delivery and timing is everything with comedy. Granted, neither are traits I'm looking for in a President, Obama having them was just a nice bonus.

I look forward to Nerdy Hillary and most important Takes Zero poo poo From Republicans Hillary more than I care about White House Correspondents Dinner Hillary.

same tbh

Arrgytehpirate
Oct 2, 2011

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



People don't mean depressed when they say mentally ill they mean batshit insane guy on the subway muttering or talking to yourself or hearing voices and believing in aliens and poo poo

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Arrgytehpirate posted:

People don't mean depressed when they say mentally ill they mean batshit insane guy on the subway muttering or talking to yourself or hearing voices and believing in aliens and poo poo

That's exactly my point. I shouldn't have even said anything because I feel like a Tumblrite complaining about stupid poo poo, but still.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.
https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/745309209064017920

the new pivot is really weird

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

WampaLord posted:

Delivery and timing is everything with comedy. Granted, neither are traits I'm looking for in a President, Obama having them was just a nice bonus.

I look forward to Nerdy Hillary and most important Takes Zero poo poo From Republicans Hillary more than I care about White House Correspondents Dinner Hillary.

Yeah, her taking out years of repressed anger on eviscerating Trump in a way that not even "gives no fucks Obama" could manage has been refreshing as hell.

Basically what she lacks in comedy she makes up for in spite, and after all the bullshit from republicans the last 8 years I'd rather have spite than comedy.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

mdemone posted:

That's exactly my point. I shouldn't have even said anything because I feel like a Tumblrite complaining about stupid poo poo, but still.

Yeah I agree, there's been a really ugly kick-down tendency this election. "Trump behaves like a mentally ill person, which is bad." "Trump is poor, which is bad. Lol poverty." "Trump supporters are backwards hicks, haha."

The guy sucks because he's a rich blowhard racist with no knowledge of society or politics. The need to compare him to the marginalized is strange and disturbing to me.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

GalacticAcid posted:

Yeah I agree, there's been a really ugly kick-down tendency this election. "Trump behaves like a mentally ill person, which is bad." "Trump is poor, which is bad. Lol poverty." "Trump supporters are backwards hicks, haha."

The guy sucks because he's a rich blowhard racist with no knowledge of society or politics. The need to compare him to the marginalized is strange and disturbing to me.

I guess if you want to be a humorless wet blanket, yeah.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

GalacticAcid posted:

Yeah I agree, there's been a really ugly kick-down tendency this election. "Trump behaves like a mentally ill person, which is bad." "Trump is poor, which is bad. Lol poverty." "Trump supporters are backwards hicks, haha."

The guy sucks because he's a rich blowhard racist with no knowledge of society or politics. The need to compare him to the marginalized is strange and disturbing to me.

Perhaps it's "mentally ill people deserve our support and sympathy, and treatment, but should not have access to the nuclear codes."

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

Deteriorata posted:

Perhaps it's "mentally ill people deserve our support and sympathy, and treatment, but should not have access to the nuclear codes."

*Again.

Shouldn't have access to the nuclear codes again.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

To pivot, pivot will be our delight
Till by pivoting, pivoting we come round right

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Holy poo poo lol

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/745304333483393024

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Mozi posted:

To pivot, pivot will be our delight
Till by pivoting, pivoting we come round right

It's weird because she's a devout Methodist.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

he thinks this works

smg77
Apr 27, 2007

Can't wait for his big speech tomorrow. Please don't make him use a teleprompter

Dubstep Jesus
Jun 27, 2012

by exmarx
"Thinks they should be president of the united states" should definitely be a symptom somewhere in the DSM manual.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

A Fancy 400 lbs posted:

Mentally ill is a pretty god drat huge umbrella that includes a wide variety of conditions. Should Lincoln not have been president because he very clearly suffered from Major Depressive Disorder?

there's evidence to suggest that people with depression have a more realistic and accurate perception of the world and society

it's still a controversial hypothesis but of course testing something like that isn't exactly the easiest thing

zoux
Apr 28, 2006


"Trump is going to destroy Hillary by attacking her from the left" - :supaburn:

showbiz_liz
Jun 2, 2008

lol

Hillary Clinton Is Now The Most Religious Candidate Running For President

quote:

"I am a person of faith. I am a Christian. I am a Methodist,” Clinton responded. “My study of the Bible … has led me to believe the most important commandment is to love the Lord with all your might and to love your neighbor as yourself, and that is what I think we are commanded by Christ to do. And there is so much more in the Bible about taking care of the poor, visiting the prisoners, taking in the stranger, creating opportunities for others to be lifted up … I think there are many different ways of exercising your faith.”

5 faith facts about Hillary Clinton: Social Gospel Methodist to the core

quote:

As a girl, she was part of the guild that cleaned the altar at First United Methodist Church in Park Ridge, Ill. As a teen, she visited inner-city Chicago churches with the youth pastor, Don Jones, her spiritual mentor until his death in 2009. During her husband’s presidency, the first family worshipped at Washington’s Foundry United Methodist Church, and this fall she spoke at the church’s 200th anniversary. Time magazine described her membership in a bipartisan women’s prayer group organized by evangelicals.

I loving BEG Trump to hammer Clinton on religion.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

zoux posted:

"Trump is going to destroy Hillary by attacking her from the left" - :supaburn:

someone has undoubtedly said this unironically in a certain subform

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

GalacticAcid posted:

Yeah I agree, there's been a really ugly kick-down tendency this election. "Trump behaves like a mentally ill person, which is bad." "Trump is poor, which is bad. Lol poverty." "Trump supporters are backwards hicks, haha."

The guy sucks because he's a rich blowhard racist with no knowledge of society or politics. The need to compare him to the marginalized is strange and disturbing to me.

point is he literally is the kind of person that cares about this poo poo

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

"Hillary Clinton is a secret Muslim" is at least a new one, pretty sure the GOP hasn't tried that one before.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

I think he's trying to execute the "make your weaknesses your enemy's" but he's doing it with zero Karl Rove finesse.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

he can't even quote a really well known scripture correctly lol

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.

zoux posted:

I think he's trying to execute the "make your weaknesses your enemy's" but he's doing it with zero Karl Rove finesse.

If Hillary Clinton is so great, why did her casinos all fail? Why is her university under investigation for fraud??

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.
Hillary should double down on this whole Trump's bad at what he does thing. "Trump likes to talk about all the money he supposedly makes, but unlike him I have a proven record of being able to make money for my investors."

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Empress Theonora posted:

If Hillary Clinton is so great, why did her casinos all fail? Why is her university under investigation for fraud??

Trump's not smart enough to attempt to bring up Whitewater, apparently

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Empress Theonora posted:

If Hillary Clinton is so great, why did her casinos all fail? Why is her university under investigation for fraud??

She writes a lot of books, but they all seem to end at Chapter 11.

showbiz_liz
Jun 2, 2008

BI NOW GAY LATER posted:

he can't even quote a really well known scripture correctly lol

Meanwhile, from that first article:

quote:

Clinton often attended pentecostal “camp” meetings in Arkansas when her husband was governor, a local gesture that quickly expanded to include meetings throughout the region. The two became recognized regulars at the spiritual events, and earned a reputation as faithful churchgoers among Southern pentecostals — a group that includes many African Americans, a key part of the Democratic machine in the Deep South.

“Any event she does in the South, you’ll find two or three pentecostal ministers behind stage who she already knows and wants to see,” Strider said.

The experience also honed Clinton’s ability to “speak Jesus,” allowing her to develop a spiritual parlance that transcended the white, suburban Methodism of her youth. While visiting Columbia, South Carolina in May 2015, Clinton asked local African American pastor Rev. Frederick Donnie Hunt what Bible verse he was studying. When Hunt replied 1 Corinthians 13, Clinton responded, “Oh I know it well,” and proceeded to recite the verse from memory and offer a short exegesis about its meaning.

Soon thereafter, Hunt announced his support for Clinton’s candidacy.

Late-summer whistle-stop tour of Southern churches, y/y?

I will also say: I had absolutely no idea that Hillary was devout. I totally understand why she normally underplays it but it's yet another way to triangulate the poo poo out of Trump.

showbiz_liz fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Jun 21, 2016

Dubstep Jesus
Jun 27, 2012

by exmarx

showbiz_liz posted:

Meanwhile, from that first article:


Late-summer whistle-stop tour of Southern churches, y/y?

I will also say: I had absolutely no idea that Hillary was devout. I totally understand why she normally underplays it but it's yet another way to triangulate the poo poo out of Trump.

That story is like something out of The West Wing.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

showbiz_liz posted:

Meanwhile, from that first article:


Late-summer whistle-stop tour of Southern churches, y/y?

I will also say: I had absolutely no idea that Hillary was devout. I totally understand why she normally underplays it but it's yet another way to triangulate the poo poo out of Trump.

1 Corinthians 13 is about not having enough security at a consulate on purpose to create a political martyr though!!!


But if you've ever been to a wedding, you know what 1 Cor 13 is.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Dubstep Jesus posted:

That story is like something out of The West Wing.

It's totally a Bartlet move, except he could probably quote it in Latin.

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


smg77 posted:

Can't wait for his big speech tomorrow. Please don't make him use a teleprompter

They can provide teleprompters and put the speech on them, not sure they could ever make him stick to it.

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mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

WampaLord posted:

It's totally a Bartlet move, except he could probably quote it in Latin.

I can see Hillary stomping out a cigarette in a cathedral before telling God to gently caress off in Latin.

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