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France still has the bloodiest national anthem. Russia's Olympic hopes in track and field events are being dashed for Rio this summer. Russians are reacting in a way you would expect Russians to react. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/18/sports/olympics/russia-barred-rio-summer-olympics-doping.html?_r=0 quote:Russia’s Track and Field Team Barred From Rio Olympics So, what does Russia do about it? This quote:Russian federal investigators said on Saturday they had opened a criminal case against the country's former anti-doping chief on charges of abuse of office, a day after world athletics' governing body upheld a ban on Russia for systematic doping.
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Looking forward to Russia's upcoming "Eurasian Games" with the only competition coming from second-rater athletes from Belarus and Kazakhstan and probably some Chinese folks that are looking for a vacation.
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# ? Jun 18, 2016 22:33 |
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Young Freud posted:Looking forward to Russia's upcoming "Eurasian Games" with the only competition coming from second-rater athletes from Belarus and Kazakhstan and probably some Chinese folks that are looking for a vacation. They'll have a bitchin' buzkashi tournament, anyway.
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# ? Jun 18, 2016 22:36 |
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It should be noted that the severity of the reaction by the International Association of Athletics Federations may well be because Seb Coe is trying to save his own skin after allegations that he's as honest as a Russian runner.
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# ? Jun 18, 2016 22:44 |
Gobbeldygook posted:Our national anthem, the Star-Spangled Banner. Apparently this was used in WW2 for catching German infiltrators. They would overprepare for call-and-response identification challenges and memorize the whole anthem, not knowing that Americans skipped huge chunks. Anyone who properly responded to "The terror of flight" with "The gloom of the grave" would be exposed.
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# ? Jun 19, 2016 20:20 |
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chitoryu12 posted:Apparently this was used in WW2 for catching German infiltrators. They would overprepare for call-and-response identification challenges and memorize the whole anthem, not knowing that Americans skipped huge chunks. Anyone who properly responded to "The terror of flight" with "The gloom of the grave" would be exposed. Also a handy way to get rid of pedants, I guess.
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# ? Jun 19, 2016 20:41 |
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I am visualizing a 1940s fishmech being bundled into an MP car, protesting all the way, and it is glorious.
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# ? Jun 19, 2016 21:32 |
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Gobbeldygook posted:Our national anthem, the Star-Spangled Banner. No one ever uses the second verse. It was mind-blowing for me to discover that "This land is my land, this land is your land" goes full socialist after the first verse.
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# ? Jun 19, 2016 21:34 |
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StandardVC10 posted:No one ever uses the second verse. It was mind-blowing for me to discover that "This land is my land, this land is your land" goes full socialist after the first verse. ... Have you checked that opening line?
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# ? Jun 20, 2016 01:45 |
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the JJ posted:... I think the way it's presented to children skews it with the nationalist meaning of "we are both members of the same glorious country" rather than "we are both equally invested in the land because the concept of private property is a sham".
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# ? Jun 20, 2016 05:27 |
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See also: "Born in the USA", which sounds like the musical equivalent of masturbating to the American flag until you look past the chorus and see oh, it's a song about how garbage the Vietnam war was. But oftentimes all you hear of the song is just the intro and the first chorus so you don't get to those parts.
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# ? Jun 20, 2016 06:55 |
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Star spangled banner is difficult to sing I would prefer any of the fallowing: this land is your land, the battle hymn of the republic, battle cry of freedom, God bless, Or America the beautiful. The song also is from a war we lost. I guess the only song that's worse is hail Columbia.
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# ? Jun 20, 2016 07:37 |
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As someone who is not an expert in anthems, America's is the ugliest, and the tendency to have it sung by just one person at major events makes it worse. Battle Cry of Freedom is my vote for best replacement national anthem.
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Richard Armour posted:In an attempt to take Baltimore, the British attacked Fort McHenry, which protected the harbor. Bombs were soon bursting in air, rockets were glaring, and all in all it was a moment of great historical interest. During the bombardment, a young lawyer named Francis Off Key wrote "The Star-Spangled Banner", and when, by the dawn's early light, the British heard it sung, they fled in terror.
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# ? Jun 20, 2016 09:42 |
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We still lost the war and the song is nigh unsingable.
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It was a loss for America in the sense that we had to stop seriously thinking about taking over Canada after the war. I'm still curious what would have happened if we won control over it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxcP7TRY178quote:I still do not want to die https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVQbxXvyG7A HUGE PUBES A PLUS fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Jun 20, 2016 |
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So Oliver Stone is making a movie to reveal that the Maidan upraising of Ukraine was staged by the CIA to put in power a bunch of homonazis and that only Putin's manly arms are defending freedom and civilization. Wake up, sheeple! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVdvp188rk4
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RandomPauI posted:It was a loss for America in the sense that we had to stop seriously thinking about taking over Canada after the war. I'm still curious what would have happened if we won control over it. I think the biggest difference would just be products for sale in North America would avoid being labeled in French as well as English and Spanish.
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Cat Mattress posted:So Oliver Stone is making a movie to reveal that the Maidan upraising of Ukraine was staged by the CIA to put in power a bunch of homonazis and that only Putin's manly arms are defending freedom and civilization. Wake up, sheeple! It has been interesting watching him torch his career since Alexander came out.
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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/745009513858760704
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# ? Jun 21, 2016 00:16 |
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Cat Mattress posted:So Oliver Stone is making a movie to reveal that the Maidan upraising of Ukraine was staged by the CIA to put in power a bunch of homonazis and that only Putin's manly arms are defending freedom and civilization. Wake up, sheeple! Someone needs to ask Stone what he thinks of Carter Page's work, both in getting Yanukovich elected in Ukraine and his work with Donald Trump in this campaign season.
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# ? Jun 21, 2016 02:43 |
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I look at the people Trump has on his ever-shrinking team and wonder how Graham Phillips isn't his press chief.
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# ? Jun 21, 2016 12:47 |
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There's still time!
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Cat Mattress posted:So Oliver Stone is making a movie to reveal that the Maidan upraising of Ukraine was staged by the CIA to put in power a bunch of homonazis and that only Putin's manly arms are defending freedom and civilization. Wake up, sheeple! I'm not sure there are many Russians who believe in the mythical homonazi, but you don't get to look down on them if you think US involvement in Maidan is an eccentric conspiracy theory.
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Flocons de Jambon posted:I'm not sure there are many Russians who believe in the mythical homonazi, but you don't get to look down on them if you think US involvement in Maidan is an eccentric conspiracy theory. Here we go again
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Cat Mattress posted:So Oliver Stone is making a movie to reveal that the Maidan upraising of Ukraine was staged by the CIA to put in power a bunch of homonazis and that only Putin's manly arms are defending freedom and civilization. Wake up, sheeple! I read the comments. How frustrating.
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# ? Jun 21, 2016 21:10 |
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steinrokkan posted:Here we go again I thought we were already there. CIA did ukraine
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Friendly Humour posted:I thought we were already there. CIA did ukraine I thought it was the Austro-Hungarians.
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# ? Jun 21, 2016 21:13 |
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Friendly Humour posted:I thought we were already there. CIA did ukraine CIA did Iran, see how it worked out for them. Regardless of whether or not the USA tried to nudge things in a direction or another, Maidan happened because it had popular support. Did people forget about the Orange Revolution already? Ukrainians were and still are fed up with corruption, autocracy, and oligarchy.
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# ? Jun 21, 2016 22:52 |
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Listen, if the CIA or any other american agency paid for even a single protesters lunch, or provided a single marker to make a placard, or provided any sort of moral support or encouragement to even a single person, the entire popular movement is tainted and a CIA operation.
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# ? Jun 21, 2016 23:37 |
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Cat Mattress posted:CIA did Iran, see how it worked out for them. You could argue the CIA didn't do Iran hard enough once Carter got to power. Had Carter not been so intent on making sure the generals/Bakhtiar didn't outright slaughter the opposition to keep power they probably would have shot Khomeini down as he landed in the country. The US released documents recently showing the secret negoiations between State/Khomeini: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36431160
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Flocons de Jambon posted:I'm not sure there are many Russians who believe in the mythical homonazi, but you don't get to look down on them if you think US involvement in Maidan is an eccentric conspiracy theory. What did they do?
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fishmech posted:What did they do? Maiden snipers were CIA sleepers planted in the berkut in the 90's.
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fishmech posted:What did they do? I've asked this specifically of people who go on about "CIA INVOLVED!!" and it's always something incredibly vague like "some of the protesters learned how to organize protests from the CIA!" or "The US government gave subtle encouragement to the protesters" like just vague moral support. They never realy have much to say about it being a fairly spontaneous mass event made up of mostly common people sick of their corrupt lovely government. You could say some of the current people in power now took advantage of this movement to further their own interests, and that the nebulous "the west" some how "supports" these politicians in some way. But it mostly boils down to "A thing that I don't like happened in Ukraine that was sort of over the country moving closer to the EU, so clearly western CIA plot" Were the protesters all CIA? Well no but... Were the organizers CIA? No but maybe a western government once said something encouraging about them! Were any of the new "junta" not existing democratically elected politicians some how installed by the CIA? Well no but... Basically a lot of people in the west including western media and politicians were sympathetic to the protesters protesting a corrupt government that was shooting them dead in a public square so clearly it's all cold war 2.0 western imperialism CIA PSY-OPS brainwashing that used HARP to mind-control people to all go to Maidan and become violent thugs who forced the legitimate government to fire on them in self-defense.
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# ? Jun 22, 2016 02:10 |
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The CIA actually was responsible for Maidan, but because Yanukovych was their man and it all went horribly wrong.
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# ? Jun 22, 2016 02:16 |
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Deteriorata posted:The CIA actually was responsible for Maidan, but because Yanukovych was their man and it all went horribly wrong. This is about the only CIA involvement story I'd be willing to believe.
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Baronjutter posted:I've asked this specifically of people who go on about "CIA INVOLVED!!" and it's always something incredibly vague like "some of the protesters learned how to organize protests from the CIA!" or "The US government gave subtle encouragement to the protesters" like just vague moral support. They never realy have much to say about it being a fairly spontaneous mass event made up of mostly common people sick of their corrupt lovely government. You could say some of the current people in power now took advantage of this movement to further their own interests, and that the nebulous "the west" some how "supports" these politicians in some way. To be fair a bunch of European leaders visited Kiev to show support for the protests and it was a huge PR blunder and gift to the Russians/Donbass Reverse Revanchists. Europe was rhetorically on the side of the Maidan at the very least.
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Truga posted:This is about the only CIA involvement story I'd be willing to believe. Well, the CIA did kill Kennedy, so really, what can't they do?
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Arglebargle III posted:To be fair a bunch of European leaders visited Kiev to show support for the protests and it was a huge PR blunder and gift to the Russians/Donbass Reverse Revanchists. Europe was rhetorically on the side of the Maidan at the very least. I'm sure opposition parties and NGOs got some funding too. I don't even think it's odious - most major nations use soft power to some extend and it would be really rather silly not to do so.
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