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Watching that Golem fight makes me wonder why we've even been bothering with healers, though I think I'll have my answer with some of the upcoming bosses. Zack, Colette, Nadia, Phoebe.
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If I'm not mistaken, Ancient Hermits can also summon an Asterius after a few turns.Allstone posted:Jackie, Phoebe, Ursa, Realga
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Zach, Tyler, Milly, Ursa.
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Current results are:quote:Phoebe: 10 ...Uh-oh.
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Ragnar Homsar posted:Current results are: Well, this is going interesting places.
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Golem's boss theme in this game is the Stratum boss music instead of Scatter About. What the gently caress is this poo poo? 
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Arcade Rabbit posted:Ursa, Tyler, Colette, Jackie Ditto this The bear must fight the chicken it is law.
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Dr. Fetus posted:Golem's boss theme in this game is the Stratum boss music instead of Scatter About. What the gently caress is this poo poo? scatter about is poo poo
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I'm closing voting before the results get any worse.quote:Phoebe: 12 The Master Bird party is Zack, Colette, Tyler, Phoebe, Ursa. What the gently caress am I even going to do with this.
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Ragnar Homsar posted:What the gently caress am I even going to do with this. Cry like a Mighty Number 9 backer on release day. That's what I've been doing.
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Update 58: The Glitz Pit  This party kinda sucks, but not as much as you'd think.  Firstly, the +10 STR food is in effect.         I reworked Zack and Tyler. Zack has Heavy Smash maxed out instead of passives and Chasers, and Tyler has Long Thrust maxed out instead of HP Up. Long Thrust is key to my strategy here. You'll notice that Tyler is in the back row to start, by the way.     VIDEO: Boss Fight: Master Bird   A quick refresher on Master Bird's stats: quote:
 This is, aside from one turn, the only thing Zack will be doing for the entire fight.  Master Bird always opens with Dread Stare, and if nothing else, I want to guarantee that Zack and Colette herself will be safe from the fear.  Ursa takes advantage of the fact that Master Bird is not attacking this turn to set up Protection Vow.  What else is Phoebe supposed to do this turn?  I said last update that Tyler will open basically every fight with Delayed Charge.      Phoebe's damage is already trash, and the back row melee penalty doesn't help one bit.   Heavy Smash starts out dealing bad damage, but its damage (and TP cost) increases with each cast. It's the "ultimate" axe skill, which just means it's the best of a mediocre skill tree.  I could spam Barrier in anticipation of Chi Burst, but that's not really worth it.   Between Front Guard's 70% phys reduction, Hit-Taker's 45% reduction, and Protection Vow's 45% reduction, Ursa takes little damage from physical attacks.  Long Thrust is ranged, and is legitimately the highest-damage Highlander skill (excluding Delayed Charge) if Spear Assist isn't an option, with 380% damage at level 20 (Spear Assist does 185% base at 20, 390% with an element). Much like the Golem fight, I don't turn on Hero Battle yet, in order to make sure I'll have it when Delayed Charge is ready.      Axe skills are unfortunately prone to missing.   Now it's Hero Battle time.  Honestly? For a class that's normally on the low end of damage, that's not terrible.   Well, crap.  Compare to earlier.  Suzaku Stance doesn't actually do anything besides change Master Bird's animation. It just telegraphs certain actions. On the first cast, it means that Master Bird is about to use Phoenix Strike three times. On the second cast, it means that Master Bird is about to use Phoenix Strike two times, and then Crimson Cyclone. On all subsequent casts, it means that Master Bird is about to use Crimson Cyclone three times.  This is my only real way of purging off the paralysis.   Fairy Robe heals the party at the start of the turn, purges off any current ailments, binds, and debuffs, and will guaranteed block all incoming ailments, binds, and debuffs on the turn that it's cast.   Front Guard saved these two from otherwise certain death. Fairy Robe also stopped Colette from getting her head bound, which would've been really bad.   Heavy Smash is at full power now, so Zack enables Full Charge.  I have Colette patch up Zack, in case something bad happens to Ursa.  Delayed Charge is ready, so Tyler switches to the front row, and will use Cross Charge.       Ursa takes about half of the damage that Zack and Colette did, mostly because the only DEF she has on is from her collar, plus 1 DEF from the Bikini Armor.  Thank you for not missing, Zack.  I've mentioned this before, but War Heal activates at both the start and end of the turn.  Tyler moves back to the back, and Colette will patch up Ursa.  And Tyler preps another Delayed Charge.  War Heal is usually kind of on the low end of heal amounts, but Ursa's Self-Heal Amp effect means it heals for a pretty respectable amount.   And the end-of-turn heal means that it patches up whatever damage Ursa took during the turn. I've been extolling the virtues of the Medic and Beast pair throughout most of the LP, but War Magi and Beasts are pretty decent together too.  I've damaged Master Bird so much that he skipped right to the next Suzaku Stance.  Full Gain will deal more damage than Heavy Smash at the low cost of 0 TP.  I want Zack to keep contributing to the fight, so I have Colette restore his TP.  For a party that's, in theory, really goddamn terrible, taking off a little over 15000 HP in 7 turns isn't bad.    This is a dumb mistake made purely out of curiosity. Why?  That's why. I dunno what the gently caress happened there, but I don't think Sentinel Guard and Hit-Taker play together nicely. It seems like Ursa just straight-up didn't get any reduction at all.   Meh.  This is the Crimson Cyclone turn, and Phoebe's shield skills are disabled. (Ursa takes this turn to reapply Protection Vow.)  Again, we're not doing terribly!    loving CHRIST, ZACK  Master Bird's about to spam Crimson Cyclone.  Phoebe has nothing else to do aside from negating one hit of Crimson Cyclone on Ursa.  Delayed Charge is ready once more.   Manageable with Desperation.   Master Bird's on the verge of death, and Tyler will snipe him at the start of the turn.    Master Bird hits pretty hard, but he's still manageable with a full party.  SYSTEM: With that triumphant bellow, the crested bird rises from its defeated slump, and begins to quietly flap its wings...!  This is what all the talk about different ways to fight Master Bird was about. What accessory he gives you here depends on the party you fought him with. A five-person party gives you the A two-person party give the   SYSTEM: If its words are true, then it won't be coming back for quite some time. You have completed the quest! When you have time, you should visit the bar to report your progress.        I'm gonna get Zack on swords as soon as axes stop outpacing them in damage by a massive degree.    More passives.  Colette starts leveling up War Heal All.  ...Oh, right, we technically advanced in the 6th Stratum. That means everyone has new dialogue, and new quests. I forgot to do town dialogue this update, but I did remember the bar patrons. Dulcet-voiced caster: Leggy dark hunter: She's not kidding, incidentally. In EOU, the leggy dark hunter is a recurring bar patron, and she fulfills the same purpose that Tramonte and Marmott did--telling you about conditional drops. You got info out of her by buying her food, however, meaning you actually had to pay small amounts of en for the info.  New quests. The volt king's rampage:       be payin' yeh through this! Make sense now? Eh, either way, I don't think it's gonna be a problem. Head to the Palace, and ask the minister about this. Awright, g'luck! This quest is needed to reach a postgame boss, incidentally.  We'll go talk to Canaan about whatever just happened here later. For now, let's go to the palace.      And to close out the update, this thing. Next time: the path to the Storm Emperor. Rea fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Jun 23, 2016 |
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"The building's collapsing! We have to get out of here!" "But we're not done accepting all of the quests yet."
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alcharagia posted:scatter about is poo poo I don't disagree, but it is tradition for Golem to have the song, and it not having Scatter About as its boss theme goes against everything Etrian Odyssey stands for. 
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Dr. Fetus posted:I don't disagree, but it is tradition for Golem to have the song, and it not having Scatter About as its boss theme goes against everything Etrian Odyssey stands for.
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Update 21: The Snow Blooms We'll start off this update by tackling the Art imitating life quest properly, since Ragnar accidentally fulfilled the requirements already in his playthrough. After selling the required item to her...  And that's it. Now let's go hunt for the Snow Blooms.    Bertrand quietly points to a dreadful-looking, multi-headed dragon, that poses quite a threat indeed! You stop yourself from gasping, but the monster seems to be in a deep slumber and shows no sign of noticing you regardless. In answer to the black-robed girl's question, you focus on the monster's nature... But you sense no special powers from this adversary. It would be foolhardly to wake such an obviously dangerous opponent solely to fight it. You quietly distance yourselves from the slumbering monster and move on.  You chat whimsically about the monster as you return to exploring.   You find a guard in the ice-capped forest shivering from the frigid atmosphere. When he notices you, he speaks in a pained voice. You tell the trembling guard that you'll continue searching, and bid him farewell to return to your own investigation.   You inspect the spot Flavio is indicating, which is in a bit of shade. In the corner sits an oddly-shaped ice crystal. You note to yourself the odd crystal's location and decide to return later tonight. And Story mode continues to hand hold you at this point, spelling out the answer in case all the clues for the solution went over your head. So yeah, come back at night to harvest the Snow Blooms. Oh and here's an audio only conversation that can play in the 3rd Stratum. Anyways, I come back to the 12th floor at night.   You look where Flavio indicates to see the familiar figure of the multi-headed dragon! Just as Bertrand says, you'll have to be conscious of the icy floor if you hope to avoid the dragon. And not only that... you must keep in mind that the dragon is mainly active after the sun sets. There are many things to be mindful of as you resume your exploration of the snowy forest.   The flower blooms alone in the frigid night air...  No reason to not take it. You reach out to pluck the flower blooming quietly in the snow... The Snow Bloom is cold to the touch, yet it shows no sign of melting as you hold it in your warm hands. You cautiously tuck the flower away into your pack.  You return to your investigation in search of the rest of the Snow Blooms.   I take the Snow Bloom. You return to your investigation in search of the rest of the Snow Blooms.   You squint and can just make out a small animal trembling in the snow. The animal shows no sign of fear in your presence. It chirps brightly and comes closer to nuzzle your feet. You feel strangely sure that you've seen this behavior before...  Oops. The game forgot to take off the name tag there.  Hey, gotta help out a freezing animal. Besides, this one isn't a squirrel, so I'm sure we can trust it. You kneel down and gently reach out a hand so as not to startle it. But at that moment...! The small animal's speed in slipping into your belongings and running off carrying something belies its earlier frailty...!  OH COME ON! YOU MEAN THE SQUIRREL HAS FRIENDS!?  Either way, it is too late to pursue the animal through this snow. You chalk the affair up as a reminder of the ruthlesness of this forest, as you nervously continue your journey.    Let's hit it. You decide to give the ice block a light whack to test its solidity. Your fist rings out with a heavy thud, indicating clearly how large and firm the block of ice is. Not only that, but when you lightly struck the large block, you felt it move a little.  Let's push it. You try pushing the large cluster of ice with your guildmates...  Without much effort, the cluster easily slides on the icy ground to the wall on the far end of the path. It seems these blocks of ice can be easily manipulated across the slick surfaces of the Stratum. You file this discovery regarding the blocks of ice away as you return to your exploration.   You suppose that if someone in urgent need of medicine, it would be callow to put this task off for later. You decide to return to your search for the Snow Blooms.   I do so.   And here's the last Snow Bloom. You decide to return to town for now to report back to the Grand Duchy.             More money and exp.   Gradriel leaves.      Chloe.png. Anyways, back to the Labyrinth.      It is the two members of the Esbat Guild, whom you met several times on the 2nd Stratum. Upon hearing the young man's muttered comments, the duo turns to face you.  The woman's smile and voice are gentle as always, absent of the hostility she displayed last time. But you cannot guess whether she is so gentle out of kindness or melancholy... The woman says nothing more, and so her perpetual shadow, the marksman in black, opens his mouth to speak.  After the woman sharply upbraids the elderly marksman, she turns her icy gaze upon you. With that, the woman turns her back to you, apparently willing to let you pass. Though after a few paces, she stops and faces you again.  Why not? The woman gives a small sigh.  You have many questions, but no one remains who can provide the answers. You decide to return to exploring the Labyrinth in search of a powerful enemy for the sake of the ritual. At this point I go back to town to uh. Well just to restock. None of the townsfolk have new dialogue, even in Story.  There is a new bar patron, though. Anyways, I feel like taking another nap.  As you sit there, you hear a knock at your door. Who could it be at this hour...?  Now it's Chloe's turn.    It's open.        Alone again in your room, you have only the silence for company. You decide to rest in preparation for tomorrow. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Jun 26, 2016 |
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Uh, did Ranger suddenly become the Sitoth Trading shopkeeper when I wasn't looking? (You mixed up Fafnir and Abigail's portraits at the start.)
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Update 59: Stardust Sky         Asterius HP: 25039, STR: 85, TEC: 65, VIT: 66, AGI: 46, LUC: 64 Skills:
Disable resistances: A head of a bull and a body of solid muscle. Your best shot is to break its giant axe... As long as you don't stack debuffs on an Asterius, they're generally pretty manageable. Ursa can basically perpetually tank it with Phoebe, although she'd probably be in trouble on her own. Notice how that conditional not only requires the least common physical damage type for actual damage dealers, it's also an 80% chance.  Much like the Master Bird fight, this is the only thing Zack will do.  There's nothing for Colette to block with Barrier.   Ursa should be pretty safe.  My strategy is literally identical to the Master Bird fight.      Sigh.     Sigh again.  Well, why not?  This is what happens when Ursa doesn't have the 70% reduction of Front Guard and 45% reduction of Hit-Taker in effect.  Maybe I should've built an optimized party for this instead of sticking with the party I got stuck with for the chicken.  Make Ursa even tankier, sure, why not.    Sad!  What I'd give to just keep the Warhammer debuff on at all times.   This is the only time in the entire game that I'll use Warmight, and it's because Colette ran out of things to do.  That was Reversal Beat, incidentally. I repeat: Sad!  Charge Smash depletes Zack's TP so quickly that I have to use Head Bash to finish off the Asterius.    ATLUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSS It is exactly my luck that I'd fail to roll for the 80% conditional chance. gently caress it, I'll drop the difficulty to Picnic and get it, I deserve the conditional.  Mine by right, as well as by might.    A boring thing plus two not-boring things.  This party was decided on a whim--a whim based around both painless exploration and getting conditional drops.    SYSTEM: You tell him that a part of the town has been all but destroyed. His expression clouds, a somber cast to his features. SYSTEM: He seems bitterly disappointed, but soon recovers his composure, and tells you of the monster that attacked. SYSTEM: After a brief moment of silence, he looks at you with a stern expression.  SYSTEM: Canaan hands you an old book. The binding of the tome appears to be gleaming gold, just like the hide of the dragon.     SYSTEM: However, aside from that, there doesn't seem to be anything else here. You stand, pondering your next move, when the golden book you received from Canaan floats gently from your grasp! The book begins glowing, bathing your surroundings in a golden light!   SYSTEM: You examine the tome again, but it simply appears to be a mundane book once more. If you wish to proceed, it seems you will have to lay hands upon the mysterious crest... Once you are ready to touch the crest, reach your hand out! This thing is basically a shortcut.      Scissor Crab HP: 1646, STR: 61, TEC: 42, VIT: 47, AGI: 37, LUC: 43 Skills:
Disable resistances: A crab so ferocious it will fight to the death, without giving a thought to its own safety. Kill Scissor Crabs quickly, and they're no threat. Leave them alive, and be prepared to get a game over. The Night Flowers in this encounter don't help, but just one Inferno Formula one shots them, and leaves the Scissor Crab at critical HP.      I said this way back at the start of the 2nd Stratum, but Ailing Slash is useful for deleting dangerous enemies--shame that War Magi are so slow.   Welcome back, floating platforms! The game amps up the difficulty of puzzles involving these here--still nothing mind-wracking, but you'll still have to think a little more compared to when we last saw them.    Lightning Drake HP: 2919, STR: 59, TEC: 63, VIT: 48, AGI: 43, LUC: 45 Skills:
Disable resistances: A dragon with a long, electrically charged horn that reacts when poisoned. Lightning Drakes are one-trick ponies. Thunderous Fury is annoying if you have an Alchemist and just "an attack" otherwise.    Oof.     Can never have too many of these.   Here, you can kind of see how the outside skybox's mesh is built.   I remembered that these two had unspent level ups shortly after that last screenshot.   This puzzle is fairly simple--just push that platform we can see in the distance up, and then ride the one I'm standing on out.    I went back to town to rest and save.   This platform puzzle is decently complex. There's three platforms in play, one of which we're standing on.   Circle the platforms around until they're like this.   One circle later, one platform will end up in front of that island.   Ride a platform to the center, and you're home free.   We'll see what's in the top right soon enough.     Wandering Eye HP: 14341, STR: 69, TEC: 55, VIT: 52, AGI: 44, LUC: 60 Skills:
Disable resistances: This giant nemesis can disorient its enemies and drive them mad with a single glare! Good luck killing this thing with standard physical damage. Outside of that glib remark, I don't have a ton to say about Wandering Eyes. Crazed Glare is kind of like that one Pokémon skill that sharply increases your opponent's attack while also confusing them. Colette's really useful here since Barrier will stop Crazed Glare's panic while letting the buff go through..      Pathetic. Low energy. Sad!  Alright, now to kill it within a few turns.  Easier done than said.  Repeat the above statement but maybe with a bit more emphasis.   Three turns for a postgame FOE. Yawn.   And we close out with equipment from the Wandering Eye's drops. Next time: we reach the Storm Emperor. Rea fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Jun 25, 2016 |
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Asterius? Good to see that Labrys's Persona got a job as an FOE.
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Cass' portraits don't show in Dr. Fetus' update, they only appear as Pcass. And Pokemon's Swagger was also the first thing I thought of when I saw that 50% boost on Crazed Glare.
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Watching you fight these FOEs long before the game expects you to makes me wonder what I was so afraid of on my first run. I think I still haven't even killed a Wandering Eye, though that's more of me forgetting they existed than not being able to.
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Okay, fixed those portrait issues.
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So from a culinary perspective, did that dragon actually damage Lagaard in any way? I can think of arguments for and against that.
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Glazius posted:So from a culinary perspective, did that dragon actually damage Lagaard in any way? I can think of arguments for and against that. Nope, the Storm Emperor's attack on the city doesn't change advertising in any way.
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Update 60: Title Goes Here   This is gonna be a short update, since there's no new enemies here, just obstacles.   There's certainly some dickish encounter formations, though.   Wandering Eyes have holes in the ground that they'll spawn out of, and holes in the ground that they'll despawn at. They take 3 steps in one directino for every step we take.   There's a treasure chest over there, but there's also the issue of the path to it being patrolled by a Wandering Eye.   Take a wild guess as to how I handled it.   Not interested.   Dear lord.   This long pathway might look intimidating, especially given that there's tons of holes where Wandering Eyes spawn out of.    Too bad they're absolutely no threat at all.   I dunno what happened, but that was the only wave of Wandering Eyes I ran into.   I told you this'd be short.   SYSTEM: A sea of cherry blossoms fills the air, and the wind blows a torrent of red that is nearly dizzying to behold. Surely this must be the Throne of Thunder!  SYTSTEM: The noise is unmistakable... You recognize the roar of the dragon that you have come to know so well.   SYSTEM: This dragon is the Storm Emperor that you have been pursuing! Whether an effect of its thunder, or merely an illusion, the air around your body crackles, numbing your skin... However, if you turn back now, then the dragon's rampage will continue unabated. If you are ready, then you must not hesitate. Begin the battle against this living force of nature! This party probably could take on Storm Emperor, but I'd rather not just charge right in.  After forgetting about town dialogue for two updates, let's take care of that, shall we? Hanna's "advice" here was serious in the original EO2, incidentally. The 26F teleporters in that game changed where you went based on what time of day it was, and you could only go to the real parts of 27F by going to 26F at night.         Well, I could've planned that out better. Next time: Storm Emperor. Rea fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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Pre-Update 61: Storm Emperor pre-fight overview Storm Emperor HP: 32000, STR: 77, TEC: 59, VIT: 58, AGI: 52, LUC: 53 Skills:
Disable resistances: A legendary yellow dragon who wields electricity masterfully. Storm Emperor might've looked like a joke when I cheesed him during The golden shadow. Believe me, he is anything but. Why? Because of this thing.  Yellow Heart HP: 3000, STR: 77, TEC: 59, VIT: 58, AGI: 52, LUC: 53 Skills:
Disable resistances: The Yellow Heart--actually, all the dragon hearts--are the culmination of EO2U's terrible boss design. The Yellow Heart specifically isn't that bad, given that it only has 3000 HP, but it still needs to die as soon as it gets summoned, since the Resonant Thunder damage scales up quickly, transforming turns where you might've barely survived something into a game over. As for the Storm Emperor himself, this is a rough list of his behavior patterns:
And that's about all I can make out of the Google Translate spew. So what characters are good for Storm Emperor, you might ask? The answer is primarily "elemental damage dealers," but equally important is some way to use Volt Wall. If you don't have an at least level 5 Volt Wall on you, Volt Torrent will just kill your entire party no questions asked, and head binds or debilitating ailments aren't reliable. If Phoebe isn't voted in, I'll get a Volt Wall Grimoire and stick it on someone. Also, regarding the conditional: remember how I had to use Akashic Nova to get the Lava Beast's "kill with Fire" conditional? Same deal here. Some form of composite damage that involves Volt is the preferred method of getting stuff like that, and Akashic Nova, Burst Shot, and Link Order are all decent at getting it because they also get bonus damage from being counted as Fire. With that in mind: Forced Damage dealers Defense Support Vote for a maximum of four party members, at least one from each category, and a maximum of two votes per character.
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This boss. THIS loving BOSS. Colette, Rheine, Jackie, Phoebe. I want this thing dead so badly. If I could vote for an all-offense party for another three-turn victory I would, but I know better than to fight this thing without the right setup. Efe fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jun 26, 2016 |
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