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Mover
Jun 30, 2008


A MIRACLE posted:

I have never noticed that, and I've seen every episode of 30 rock / Unbreakable

gently caress am I going to start noticing it now

really thought you were talking about the Shyamalan movie for a second there and now I wanna know when that crossover is gonna happen

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Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

axleblaze posted:

You say that first part but still seem to have trouble with why Netflix would be interested in having exclusive rights to four films from a popular comedian who tends to pull in a ton of money even if his movies are basically lazily written vacations. Like the quality of his movies doesn't matter. He tends to make money despite what any of us think of him, and apparently Netflix are pretty happy with what he's done for them so far so it's pretty easy to understand why they would have done this rather than a dozen shows that would be of a better quality but probably get far less actual views.

Besides, this isn't really an either/or situation. It's not like Netflix had been slacking on the interesting creative content because they also gave Sandler money. Hell the popular shlock like the Sandler clicks and Fuller House makes them feel better about also taking risks on the side

No, I get the business. There are other angles that I'm considering. Sure, Adam Sandler movies are guaranteed big bucks at the beginning, but the longevity of those profits (I would assume) would have to diminish with critics/reviews, word of mouth, and people generally getting tired of Sandler's poo poo. Compared to a lower-budget movie, like The Big Short, which has a much smaller budget, gets critically praised, has good word-of-mouth, and gets many award nominations. That movie had a great theater run because continuing praise and popularity. People sought it out for months. In it's whole run, it matched Pixels in (domestic) profits, even though Pixels had way more than three times the budget, plus marketing. (According to Box Office Mojo)

What I didn't consider before talking poo poo was international sales. Adam Sandler movies make huge profits over-seas, which makes no loving sense to me.

Side story: I had an all-expense paid trip to Daytona for a race where Adam Sandler had the honor of saying "Gentleman, start your engines!" to initiate the race. At the end of the race, as everyone shuffled out of Daytona Speedway, Adam Sandler's limousine drove by. A large crowd of drunken rednecks chased the limousine while screaming and throwing things at him, intending to stop the vehicle. He got away without (physical) injuries.

Anyway, I'm tired of talking about Sandler. The Wedding Singer and Punch-Drunk Love are good movies.

Dr Monkeysee
Oct 11, 2002

just a fox like a hundred thousand others
Nap Ghost
I'm not sure you do get the business as you're talking about Netflix movies as if they follow a box office profit curve. Netflix movies don't have profits over time, they either bring in new subscribers or they don't. And I highly doubt having Adam Sandler in their lineup would drive away subscribers that otherwise want Netflix content like Beasts of No Nation or Orange is the New Black or something. How The Big Short did vs Pixels isn't relevant. It's more analogous to whether HBO should drop Taxi Cab Confessionals because people who like the Sopranos don't watch it.

I mean, a few people maybe but I'd be very surprised if it had any negative effect on their bottom line.

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy

precision posted:

Mr. Robot is on Amazon Prime now. Literally last week I paid for the season. :mad:

Oh well, it's probably a good idea to throw money at good shows sometimes.

The premise sounds incredibly lame in a Watch Underscore Dogs way. Is it legit good or guilty pleasure good?

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012

MeatwadIsGod posted:

The premise sounds incredibly lame in a Watch Underscore Dogs way. Is it legit good or guilty pleasure good?

It's tone is identical to that Watch Dogs 2 trailer

Sir Kodiak
May 14, 2007


MeatwadIsGod posted:

The premise sounds incredibly lame in a Watch Underscore Dogs way. Is it legit good or guilty pleasure good?

It's legitimately good. There's some obnoxiously edgy stuff you have to power through, but the show's recognition of how dysfunctional that makes the main character makes it a lot more palatable. And overall it's really well done.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Dr Monkeysee posted:

I'm not sure you do get the business as you're talking about Netflix movies as if they follow a box office profit curve. Netflix movies don't have profits over time, they either bring in new subscribers or they don't. And I highly doubt having Adam Sandler in their lineup would drive away subscribers that otherwise want Netflix content like Beasts of No Nation or Orange is the New Black or something. How The Big Short did vs Pixels isn't relevant. It's more analogous to whether HBO should drop Taxi Cab Confessionals because people who like the Sopranos don't watch it.

I mean, a few people maybe but I'd be very surprised if it had any negative effect on their bottom line.

That's what I'm trying to explore, with box office numbers as an easy to find actual number for comparison. I don't know how to find and compare Netflix viewing numbers.

But that's my point. Orange is the New Black, Beasts of No Nation, House of Cards, all get awards, critical acclaim and are Must-Watch things that bring in subscribers. Even people who cancel their subscription will pay for a month to binge a new season before cancelling again. Is an Adam Sandler movie really going to bring in a new audience, or pander to the one they already have?

Thwomp
Apr 10, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer

MeatwadIsGod posted:

The premise sounds incredibly lame in a Watch Underscore Dogs way. Is it legit good or guilty pleasure good?

Mr. Robot is legit great.

knows a black guy
Jun 18, 2005

MeatwadIsGod posted:

The premise sounds incredibly lame in a Watch Underscore Dogs way. Is it legit good or guilty pleasure good?

Legit good, it's worth your time to check it out. Not perfect of course, but as far as USA network standards go, I'd say it's "holy poo poo" good.

Bayham Badger
Jan 19, 2007

Secretly force socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America.

Mover posted:

really thought you were talking about the Shyamalan movie for a second there and now I wanna know when that crossover is gonna happen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQdU53Zn_WA

wafflesnsegways
Jan 12, 2008
And that's why I was forced to surgically attach your hands to your face.
If I see something with a lot of ADR dialogue, I always assume that it was heavily edited and they need to wedge back in some of the exposition that got cut out, or somebody panicked about the show not being funny enough and demanded that they add more jokes.

Here's Patton Oswalt's description of writing jokes for movies that already almost finished:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK9decuuPC0

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012
I assume on like, Schmidt they just do it to keep references recent, that way you can have room for *POLITICAL JOKE* to be current despite the episode being shot 5 months ago or whatever

Guy Mann
Mar 28, 2016

by Lowtax

Hat Thoughts posted:

I assume on like, Schmidt they just do it to keep references recent, that way you can have room for *POLITICAL JOKE* to be current despite the episode being shot 5 months ago or whatever

Mr. Robot ADR'd a reference to the Ashley Madison hackings into the season 1 finale despite airing only like a week after they happened.

Also it's a good show and anybody with an interest in psychological thrillers and fairly believable (but still fantastic) hacking should check it out. They just added it to Amazon since the seconds season starts next month.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

I definitely think the public at large loves Sandler, a big part of the reason he's The Worst on the internet.

I think a notable percentage of the streaming viewership is people watching because they want to see the latest spectacle. I mean that's why I do it. At some point I have to admit I just like Adam Sandler movies, sans caveats that I like hating them or like them ironically or some basic teenage dweeb poo poo like that. I'm not watching them so I can yell at the screen or put a video up of myself talking about how he's cancer on film, or even so I could make this post; I'm watching because there's something really fascinating about his special brand of gross, weird comedies scripts that are filmed and edited in such a way that they have a mundane- maybe even spitefully mournful- tone, not to mention they're fronted by an increasingly sullen grunting millionaire pariah who doesn't so much act as he arrives on set and doesn't assault wardrobe when they try to dress him. There's so many complicated, toxic dynamics at play. It's hard to not want to look and see.

Dr Monkeysee
Oct 11, 2002

just a fox like a hundred thousand others
Nap Ghost

Franchescanado posted:

Is an Adam Sandler movie really going to bring in a new audience, or pander to the one they already have?

Well, Netflix has already stated it's their most popular movie, so any discussion has to reckon with that fact unless you think they're lying. Whatever you think of Adam Sandler, Netflix's investment in him seems to have worked.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
I mean, I watched that movie.. For about 3-5 minutes before I was thoroughly disgusted by the jew wearing redface

Jolo
Jun 4, 2007

ive been playing with magnuts tying to change the wold as we know it

Didn't they put the Sandler movie at the top of page where it would autoplay? I can't remember if that just played a trailer or the actual movie. If it started the actual movie that'd result in a lot of "plays".

The loud advertisements that autoplay when the app comes up are pretty obnoxious.

Sarchasm
Apr 14, 2002

So that explains why he did not answer. He had no mouth to answer with. There is nothing left of him but his ears.

coyo7e posted:

I mean, I watched that movie.. For about 3-5 minutes before I was thoroughly disgusted by the jew wearing redface

ScarletBrother
Nov 2, 2004

The difference is that this is from an actual funny movie.

GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.

Jolo posted:

Didn't they put the Sandler movie at the top of page where it would autoplay? I can't remember if that just played a trailer or the actual movie. If it started the actual movie that'd result in a lot of "plays".

The loud advertisements that autoplay when the app comes up are pretty obnoxious.

It was just a trailer.

Mescal
Jul 23, 2005

I'm looking for a mood piece as comfortable, low-stakes, and semisatisfying as Detectorists. What do you say?

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.
Several episodes in and this is probably my favorite season of Orange is the New Black. Piper is finally taking a back seat, and I think the writers are listening to criticism of how dull her character is. Good.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

ScarletBrother posted:

The difference is that this is from an actual funny movie.
Now I'm trying to imagine Adam Sandler doing a remake of The Gods Must Be Crazy but I can't see it, it'd just be him covered in shoeblack, running around mostly naked and making cluck cluck noises

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Chichevache posted:

Several episodes in and this is probably my favorite season of Orange is the New Black. Piper is finally taking a back seat, and I think the writers are listening to criticism of how dull her character is. Good.

Good to hear. I'm one of the few that liked all of the seasons but she really has no reason to be the focus of the show anymore.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

NESguerilla posted:

Good to hear. I'm one of the few that liked all of the seasons but she really has no reason to be the focus of the show anymore.

Midway into it now and Piper is back to being the focus, but in a tongue-in-cheek way. She's constantly called out for thinking she is the center of attention. The other inmates are basically audience stand-ins, criticizing her role. They are also taking her character in a direction that plays on how hateable she is. I really like it.

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

MeatwadIsGod posted:

The premise sounds incredibly lame in a Watch Underscore Dogs way. Is it legit good or guilty pleasure good?

I just got done watching season 1. It's like House, Dexter and Hannibal had a weird tech hacker baby. I don't know how well it will hold up or how they're going to go beyond season 1 but it's a solid watch.

Field Mousepad
Mar 21, 2010
BAE
Ip Man 3 has Mike Tyson in it. Ha

ellie the beep
Jun 15, 2007

Vaginas, my subject.
Plane hulls, my medium.

MeatwadIsGod posted:

The premise sounds incredibly lame in a Watch Underscore Dogs way. Is it legit good or guilty pleasure good?

If nothing else the cinematography and sound design for the first half is absurdly beautiful. Like, one really nice touch is the main character is incredibly socially awkward and this is reinforced in the viewer by having conversations frequently feature only whoever is speaking at the time, but framed in one of the lower corners so your eyes are drawn down and to the side as if you are avoiding eye contact. The artfulness deteriorates in the back half but honestly it's still engaging, if predictable.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Why was the guard choking Laura prepone at the beginning of the first ep of oitnb again? I can't remember that thread from last season.

veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Jun 20, 2016

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

NESguerilla posted:

Why was the guard choking Laura prepone at the beginning of the first ep of oitnb again? I can't remember that thread from last season.

Use spoilers.
He's an international drug hit man there to kill her

Allyn
Sep 4, 2007

I love Charlie from Busted!

NESguerilla posted:

Why was the guard choking Laura prepone at the beginning of the first ep of oitnb again? I can't remember that thread from last season.

To expand on the post above, she snitched on her old boss in court expecting it to get her early release but the case fell apart, and with it her deal, so now he's trying to have her killed

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Chichevache posted:

Midway into it now and Piper is back to being the focus, but in a tongue-in-cheek way. She's constantly called out for thinking she is the center of attention. The other inmates are basically audience stand-ins, criticizing her role. They are also taking her character in a direction that plays on how hateable she is. I really like it.

I marathoned the whole season and I think overall it's quite good, although there are some dire subplots, in particular the jewish black girl vs. muslim roommate Israel-Palestine allegory was far too on-the-nose and the message of coming together via communication was really condescending. Also I really liked that they allowed characters to just outright fail at times, like when Red cracks in her interrogation and rats out one of her co-conspirators.

K. Waste
Feb 27, 2014

MORAL:
To the vector belong the spoils.
Theeb, this Jordanian historical drama from back in 2014, is up and I don't think it's miraculous or anything, but it's got this interesting 'post-western' vibe to it, which I guess makes it a 'Middle-Eastern.' It's got some early Ang Lee legs.

LogisticEarth
Mar 28, 2004

Someone once told me, "Time is a flat circle".
I checked out Cold in July on Netflix yesterday and was thoroughly pleased. It's got a good balance of thriller and dark comedy. "Everyday dude gets drawn into larger mystery" kinda story. The film probably was 10-15 minutes too long and I wasn't totally happy with where they went for the climax but the trip there was worth it. Nicely detailed, no character bloat bunch of interesting but believable twists.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe

LogisticEarth posted:

I checked out Cold in July on Netflix yesterday and was thoroughly pleased. It's got a good balance of thriller and dark comedy. "Everyday dude gets drawn into larger mystery" kinda story. The film probably was 10-15 minutes too long and I wasn't totally happy with where they went for the climax but the trip there was worth it. Nicely detailed, no character bloat bunch of interesting but believable twists.

I agree, it was very well done. I loved how Don Johnson's character just kept taking ridiculous punishment for the whole movie but he would never stay down for long. By the end he gets shot in the chest and thrown back into a wall, and I was like "Yeaaaa, he's definitely going to survive that."

LogisticEarth
Mar 28, 2004

Someone once told me, "Time is a flat circle".

Basebf555 posted:

I agree, it was very well done. I loved how Don Johnson's character just kept taking ridiculous punishment for the whole movie but he would never stay down for long. By the end he gets shot in the chest and thrown back into a wall, and I was like "Yeaaaa, he's definitely going to survive that."

The scene where The Mexican grabs his hat and just straight up drives him into the ground was great. Also, I was glad he survived as well, as having Michael C. Hall be the sole survivor would have pushed the already kinda clichéd "final showdown" trope a bit too far.

Warm und Fuzzy
Jun 20, 2006

Mescal posted:

I'm looking for a mood piece as comfortable, low-stakes, and semisatisfying as Detectorists. What do you say?

Don't have anything to offer, but this is a great recommendation. Thanks!

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


There was a Goosebumps movie?

LadyPictureShow
Nov 18, 2005

Success!



LogisticEarth posted:

I checked out Cold in July on Netflix yesterday and was thoroughly pleased. It's got a good balance of thriller and dark comedy. "Everyday dude gets drawn into larger mystery" kinda story. The film probably was 10-15 minutes too long and I wasn't totally happy with where they went for the climax but the trip there was worth it. Nicely detailed, no character bloat bunch of interesting but believable twists.

I'm finishing it up now, and I agree. I went into it just thinking it'd be about father is angry his son was killed and terrorizes Michael C. Hall's family, but then poo poo took an interesting turn. And man, the scene where they realize what's on the video tape they stole, Michael C. Hall and Don Johnson really nailed the 'grim horror' expression.

Standoff was a good movie too, pretty tense, even though the premise is just Laurence Fishburne and Thomas Jane in a stairwell shouting at each other. A little girl witnesses a hitman offing people in a graveyard and gets pictures of it, he chases her and she ends up stumbling across Thomas Jane's farmhouse, who's a suicidal ex-army officer. The titular standoff ensues, since Jane's character only has one shell left. It's pretty tense, and Fishburne was chewing the scenery like crazy. The ending where Bird goes to shoot him and it turns out the shell was a dud the whole time was a real 'oh drat!' moment

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MikeRabsitch
Aug 23, 2004

Show us what you got, what you got

Junkie Disease posted:

There was a Goosebumps movie?

Yep, and I weirdly liked it.

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