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Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
i haven't watched dr. who for years. i mostly watched with friends who insisted on watching it. did i hear right that they basically dropped the "and space" bit from the "this box can move about in time and space" concept and turned it into the "omg london is the very best place in the whole entire universe!!!" show? it seemed like whenever i encountered the show they were always farting about in or around london.

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Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
Yep, and all the new companions are from contemporary London. You can't even claim it's a budget thing, the old show went all over the loving place on a shoestring budget and bubblewrap monsters. It's a lack of imagination, pure and simple.

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

i wonder how much of a rave it becomes on the enterprise if you get 100 people all asking for directions constantly

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zuObd_gSKw

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

william riker's terrible horrible no-good very bad day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmvMfhHyBRI

Roylicious
Feb 21, 2012

Braver than the cops
ain't afraid of no chaps
If they steppin up on me
I just start bustin some caps
I knew nothing at all of Dr. Who when I saw it on Netflix (?) and gave it a shot. It started from the 'modern' stuff though not the old rear end stuff.

It was good. It was hella British and cheesy but that's kind of the appeal in the first place no? I dunno I enjoyed it. I enjoy SciFi schlock in general though so my tolerance is higher. My SO enjoyed it, too.

Then we found out it was some super popular TV show and we discovered the obsessed 'fandom' and it retroactively made me like the show less because I don't want to tell anyone I liked watching it so as to not be associated with those people. Which is silly but there it is.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
Doctor Who is way better if you don't engage with other fans about it.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Met posted:

Doctor Who
don't engage with it.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

now imagine you're just coming off of seven years of painfully mediocre/lovely Voyager episodes, the producers have been swearing up and down for months that Enterprise is going to be soooooo different and so much better... and you've just finished watching this turd. oh look, they took their normal scripts and did a find-replace where they replaced "shields" with "hull plating", that's... something.

i immediately gave up on the series right there and then. i remember a couple years on people saying "oh the series started to get okay" and i still wanted absolutely nothing to do with the show because of how incredibly burned i felt over the first episode. fool me once... shame on... shame on you... you fool me can't get fooled again!



and then nemesis came out the next year :gonk:

It was Nemesis which me and my best friend saw in a theater with maybe six others in it, fallowed by a Night in Sickbay that made me go. "gently caress this".

Fiend
Dec 2, 2001
My favorite Dr Who episode had the Dead Parrot sketch

VendaGoat
Nov 1, 2005

Fiend posted:

My favorite Dr Who episode had the Dead Parrot sketch

I always liked the one where the doctor fills a hovercraft with eels.

DOMDOM
Apr 28, 2007

Fun Shoe
ehhh enterprise is still way more watchable than VOY once you get past season 1

though the jump in season 3 where they saved the world from the xindi weapon and then immediately got thrown into the past to fight nazis was fuckin stupid

but at least there's no nelix

criscodisco
Feb 18, 2004

do it
The only thing season 1 of Enterprise had going for it is that, occasionally, you got that sense of wonder that a crew of people exploring the galaxy for the first time would feel. It didn't happen often, but when it did it was wonderful. A good example is the episode where they find the automated repair station in space.

Other than that, the only real redeeming factor is that it was the first Trek show that didn't skimp on the special effects scenes. So many times on TNG and DS9 there would be a fantastical space battle happening, but you'd only know by a bridge full off people watching some blips on a screen and narrating the action. If you're a glutton for space porn like I am, it can help make up for bad scripts.

vortmax
Sep 24, 2008

In meteorology, vorticity often refers to a measurement of the spin of horizontally flowing air about a vertical axis.

FuhrerHat posted:

watch lexx
This is the correct answer.

The General
Mar 4, 2007


Season 1 of voyager complete. Please remember to not make cheese during your stay on Voyager.

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

All of season 1 of Lexx (which is the least weird and really cool) is on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFRe4nl8ugM

Blood Shart
Sep 23, 2010



Did someone order extra cheese on their scifi?

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

The General posted:

Season 1 of voyager complete. Please remember to not make cheese during your stay on Voyager.
Lt. Tuvok's Ball Busting Training is a weird episode to close the season off with. I actually kind of like the Neelix episode before.

Fiend
Dec 2, 2001

Tectonis posted:



Did someone order extra cheese on their scifi?

Dr Who: "Its only a model"

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.
Picard's sicknasty flute thing > Harry Kim's clarinet

The Kimtones will never make it big.

plushpuffin
Jan 10, 2003

Fratercula arctica

Nap Ghost

Volcott posted:

Picard's sicknasty flute thing > Harry Kim's clarinet

The Kimtones will never make it big.

I wonder if it's called the Kimtones simply because the other band members don't even have names.

Hector Beerlioz
Jun 16, 2010

aw, hec
I prefer Riker's tromboner

Volcott
Mar 30, 2010

People paying American dollars to let other people know they didn't agree with someone's position on something is the lifeblood of these forums.

Hector Beerlioz posted:

I prefer Riker's tromboner

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


There was no music in the Trek universe that was not absolutely terrible.

But the worst music of all was from the casino-nightclub scene where Spy Bashir played Duchamps-Worf at baccarat.

Season 4 episode 9, at 21 minutes in. Its so awful and out of place. Like elevator Christian surf-rock. Was something else originally subbed in for broadcast and didn't get clearance on DVD for them to use that abomination as a representation of swingin' 60's Nonaco?

VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
and
Freak Out



FuhrerHat posted:

watch lexx

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Oct 30, 2009

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I will never not laugh at this

Blood Shart
Sep 23, 2010

FuhrerHat posted:

watch lexx

:getin:

The General
Mar 4, 2007


FilthyImp posted:

Lt. Tuvok's Ball Busting Training is a weird episode to close the season off with. I actually kind of like the Neelix episode before.

I would watch Star Trek: Federation's Worst Cadets with Tuvok.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Hector Beerlioz
Jun 16, 2010

aw, hec

Cthulu Carl
Apr 16, 2006

FuhrerHat posted:

william riker's terrible horrible no-good very bad day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmvMfhHyBRI

Riker:"SHUT THE gently caress UP!"

Troi: "Will, I sense your frustration."

Well, at least they got ONE crew member accurate.

Typical Pubbie
May 10, 2011

Cthulu Carl posted:

Riker:"SHUT THE gently caress UP!"

Troi: "Will, I sense your frustration."

Well, at least they got ONE crew member accurate.

I can still remember my whole family laughing at Riker telling Troi to stuff it.

Fat Shat Sings
Jan 24, 2016
I also like how 99% of what Troi does is read basic body language.

An alien looks pissed off he is getting the third degree from some jerks
"I sense some frustration captain, he may be in a hurry"

An alien seems shifty and is answering questions oddly
"I sense like he has something to hide captain"

The entire ship is about to explode due to some kind of phenomenon/alien
"I sense great stress in the crew captain"

Aaronicon
Oct 2, 2010

A BLOO BLOO ANYONE I DISAGREE WITH IS A "BAD PERSON" WHO DESERVES TO DIE PLEEEASE DONT FALL ALL OVER YOURSELF WHITEWASHING THEM A BLOO BLOO
Yeah I get the feeling Troi was supposed to be a much bigger deal than she ended up being. Like a psychic bridge officer? Sure, sounds cool. But they never did anything interesting with that idea.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde

Aaronicon posted:

Yeah I get the feeling Troi was supposed to be a much bigger deal than she ended up being. Like a psychic bridge officer? Sure, sounds cool. But they never did anything interesting with that idea.

they turned "psychic" into

"yo that dude mad"

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
Captain that guy said he'd blow us up



*grimaces*



I think he's mad about something

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!

Aaronicon posted:

Yeah I get the feeling Troi was supposed to be a much bigger deal than she ended up being. Like a psychic bridge officer? Sure, sounds cool. But they never did anything interesting with that idea.

Guinan should have been the ship's counselor, offering up sage advice and a lifetime of personal and work experiences to help.

Troi should have been a free-spirited psychic bartender who flirted with everyone and knew exactly how drunk everyone needed to get and what they needed to hear to feel good about themselves for 5 minutes of their lousy days.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
troi just hosed all the senior officers and kept them in line i think really

ramenpower
May 6, 2007

Society must take every means at its disposal to defend itself against the emergence of a parallel power which defies the elected power
Troi's abilities were wildly different each episode. It was either she would state something super obvious that normal humans could have seen, or she's receiving signals unconsciously and confused about what to do.Her being only half Betazoid, the writers couldn't keep her consistent.
I didn't realize until after TNG was long finished that basically her costume was just black contacts, as her uniform changed season to season.

When Troi's mother was around, did they actually speak telepathically or was it a narrative of them going all Bene Gesserit, reading each others body language? Troi's mom only once (as far as I can recall) ever really read anyones mind and that was when Picard was hoping for a transporter accident to turn her inside out, and dude was obvious with his dislike for her so that could have been picked up without mindscanning him.

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CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
hold on was it TNG season 2 where Troi got pregnant by some space creep and everyone was just like "CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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