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namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
at least if you buy a house or condo in whistler you have awesome poo poo you can do

lol loving cottage

go die in a fire everyone east of banff

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Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Alberta is basically the same, only instead of a cabin it's $100,000 toy hauler travel trailers, pulling them to kelowna or osoyoos, complaining about traffic, the cost of fuel, and the cost of storing and maintaining a $100,000 trailer that drops 50% in value year after year.

RV dealerships often advertise 20 year loans on these things, there are people out there paying $500 a month for 20 years on a trailer that will be worth $5000 within 10 years, and still costs them $500/year to store. They often have $1000-$1500 payments on the truck they use to drag it around, too, owing $70,000 on a $60,000 truck because they rolled over what they owed on their last $60,000.

You guys joke about truck equity, but there are people out there applying for loans listing their travel trailer equity as part of their net worth.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
We use our money to go on vacation and stay somewhere with services provided and with no assumption of liability.

Why the gently caress would anyone want to live in debt to own a cottage, truck and boat, all of which break down and require costly repairs and sit disused while they work extra hours to pay it all off?

I know why, it's a desire to acquire things bred in to poor people by society, but jesus christ you'd think at some point people would have a moment of clarity while sitting in a four hour traffic jam outside Barrie on a Friday evening on the way to the cottage.

We can spend a week on a cruise in the Caribbean, fly out to Quebec or BC for skiing, go to Europe or do whatever in Vermont for week all for the cost of a single monthly payment of these people.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe
Duh pride of ownership

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
for any holiday home you'll have to give up a significant amount of your vacation and spend it in the exact same place to make it worth it vs. just staying in hotels or holiday rentals. Even if you really like a place, you have to be willing to spend a ton of time there to justify it.

I remember living in Ireland in 2007 watching a program about Irish people not able to make payments on their holiday homes in Croatia or Bulgaria or whatever. I remember saying to my Irish roommates, "why would they buy a place they couldn't afford?" One of them just said, "What are we supposed to do?" Pretty much the same with cottages. The culture is strong in Ontario.

It much nicer to have a friend who has a cottage or a boat than to actually have one.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Also lolling at people who buy timeshares.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

etalian posted:

Also lolling at people who buy timeshares.
Timeshares are awful but both sets of our boomer parents have them so hooray for free vacations.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum
David Eby did an AMA over on /r/vancouver today. It's pretty great, dude is definitely from the new generation of politicians and doesn't mince words about the shitshow we're in.

Highly refreshing, to say the least.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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Fuzzy Mammal posted:

:(:hf::( Sup mosquito creek buddy. I can't imagine what going to Handsworth must be like now.

When I was there (early/mid 90s) there was a major overcrowding problem and the first wave of Chinese kids was just showing up. I hear they're gonna tear it down and build a new one from scratch.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

namaste faggots posted:

lol this loving notion of a cabin

what the gently caress do you do at a cabin?

Make and send letterbombs. Actually kinda sounds like something you would enjoy.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

quote:

Perths high rental vacancy rate has resulted in rise in squatters

SQUATTERS are taking advantage of Perths highest residential vacancy rate in 20 years by moving into empty rental homes and barricading themselves inside for weeks.

Trespassers were also changing locks, breaking door handles and threatening landlords to squat in empty rental properties or vacant homes that were up for sale.

EBM RentCover executive general manager Sharon Fox-Slater said WA was now the countrys hotspot for squatting problems.

Ms Fox-Slater, whose company is one of Australias biggest providers of landlord insurance, said while she used to see a squatting related claim every few years, incidents were becoming commonplace in WA.

The downturn, high vacancy rate and number of job losses is taking its toll, Ms Fox-Slater said.

She said in one recent case in Karratha squatters had conducted a renovation on the property changing the locks, painting the walls and installing new windows.

Real Estate Plus general manager Brock Gurr had also encountered a rise in squatting incidents, both on vacant rental properties and homes on the market.

In one home they smashed the door handles and used the windows to get in and out, Mr Gurr said.

They were using the oven, had food in the house and had the airconditioning running.

The president of Real Estate Institute of WA, Hayden Groves, recently had to call the police to evict a squatter in a property his agency manages. The home was being prepared for new tenants.

Judy Luxton, who is based in the UK, had squatters evicted from her two-bedroom apartment in the Perth CBD this week. The property had been rented but the tenant illegally sublet the home.

The subletters didnt pay rent and barricaded themselves within the unit.

The Sunday Times joined the property manager in an inspection of the building after the eviction this week which revealed the apartment had been trashed with food left to rot, furniture dissembled and carpets stained beyond repair.

It is believed about five people had been living in the unit.

I know people are people, but I dont understand how someone can think its OK to do that to a half-a-million-dollar apartment, Ms Luxton said.

In WA, squatters rights can only be claimed if an individual has had possession of a property for 12 years or more.

There are more than 10,000 properties available for rent in Perth, up 35 per cent from this time last year.



http://www.perthnow.com.au/realesta...7f655db6a62a523

Lacrosse
Jun 16, 2010

>:V


So does like every Canadian have a cabin or something? I don't know anyone here in the states with a cabin in the woods. Here people just go find a campground and throw down a tent/sleep in an RV.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
We went through this before: the "cabin" exists for alcoholics in denial, so they can start pounding beer at 10AM because they're "on vacation" without feeling like alcoholics.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Lacrosse posted:

So does like every Canadian have a cabin or something? I don't know anyone here in the states with a cabin in the woods. Here people just go find a campground and throw down a tent/sleep in an RV.

It's pretty much an Ontario/Soviet Union thing.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Baronjutter posted:

From what I hear from friends in Ontario:
-Get off work early on friday and quickly jump in the car you packed with supplies the night before and race out to your cabin which is a few hours out of the city in good traffic
-Get stuck in horrific traffic because everyone else is doing the same thing as you and no one wants to pay for bigger roads to cabin country
-Sit around in their cabin doing exactly what they'd be doing at home in the city but with a different view out the window
-Maybe paddle a canoe or something out on a lake or sit outside but probably not because they're exhausted and stressed from getting there and just want to relax and moving the canoe to the lake is too much work
-Pack up and drive home in horrible traffic
-Complain how expensive and stressful it is to keep their cabin

You're forgetting a big one for waterfront owners: Be bugfuck insane about your property lines

Around the bay where I live there's like a whole road down the waterfront that reaps a healthy harvest of cabins. These people, mostly from Toronto, have apparently memorized every square inch of their property lines and if someone swims 1mm over then it's shoutin' time and maybe a rousing round of physical assault if they're dismissed enough. My mother sometimes fills in for people on the phone lines during Cabin Season and from the stories she tells just a day there is all kinds of insanity.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

quote:

I know people are people, but I dont understand how someone can think its OK to do that to a half-a-million-dollar apartment, Ms Luxton said.

loving lol. loving Marie Antoinette right here. Because you are speculating on homes when there are thousands of people without one.

If I was poor and still lived in Vancouver I would squat the gently caress out of these empty houses.

Lacrosse posted:

So does like every Canadian have a cabin or something? I don't know anyone here in the states with a cabin in the woods. Here people just go find a campground and throw down a tent/sleep in an RV.
Cottages in Ontario aren't cabins, they are literal second homes with all amenities. I was confused since when I was in BC a cabin was just a shack with a wood stove.

cowofwar fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Jun 23, 2016

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Lacrosse posted:

So does like every Canadian have a cabin or something? I don't know anyone here in the states with a cabin in the woods. Here people just go find a campground and throw down a tent/sleep in an RV.

It's huge in the Midwest. My grandpa has one in the up and since he has nine kids and infinite grandkids/great grandkids it's in constant use June though August. It's fantastic since it's on a lake

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Lacrosse posted:

So does like every Canadian have a cabin or something? I don't know anyone here in the states with a cabin in the woods. Here people just go find a campground and throw down a tent/sleep in an RV.

imagine summer homes except shittier. Cabins apparently exist just so you can tell people you own them. And insincerely invite people to your cabin. Cabin trips are famous for their shittiness so it's probably a safe bet nobody will take you up on it.

EDIT: weird double post sorry

Diamato
Jul 17, 2006

Everybody's got a price for the Million Dollar Man
So guys, I'm not sure if you know but Nanaimo real estate is hot as gently caress right now. How hot?

This beauty was listed for $269k.

Selling price? $31k over asking for a nice round $300k

If houses in loving Nanaimo are going for this much over asking then I can't say I have much hope for this country. The crash is going to destroy so many people :(

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

namaste faggots posted:

at least if you buy a house or condo in whistler you have awesome poo poo you can do

lol loving cottage

go die in a fire everyone east of banff

I had a pretty bad goggle tan two days ago so I decided to even it out by just putting sunscreen on the tanned parts of my face and the rest of my face burned so now I'm half tanned half burned and I look even more ridiculous than usual.

Whistler owns.

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos

Diamato posted:

So guys, I'm not sure if you know but Nanaimo real estate is hot as gently caress right now. How hot?

This beauty was listed for $269k.

Selling price? $31k over asking for a nice round $300k

If houses in loving Nanaimo are going for this much over asking then I can't say I have much hope for this country. The crash is going to destroy so many people :(
Nanaimo? Nanaimo. Peak bubble, calling it.

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
Whatever, you all wish you could live in this apartment in the building I used to live in for a measly 1.2 million and $900 a month strata fees.

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/Single-Family/17029963/306-3212-BLUEBERRY-DRIVE-Whistler-British-Columbia-V0N1B3

ductonius
Apr 9, 2007
I heard there's a cream for that...

Yinlock posted:

if someone swims 1mm over then it's shoutin' time and maybe a rousing round of physical assault if they're dismissed enough.

All natural bodies of water are Crown property. Any land between high and low water mark is Crown land. Do people own cabins because they enjoy getting told to gently caress off?

Entorwellian
Jun 30, 2006

Northern Flicker
Anna's Hummingbird

Sorry, but the people have spoken.



Rime posted:

David Eby did an AMA over on /r/vancouver today. It's pretty great, dude is definitely from the new generation of politicians and doesn't mince words about the shitshow we're in.

Highly refreshing, to say the least.

That was really insightful. Eby is pretty solid.

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe

Yinlock posted:

You're forgetting a big one for waterfront owners: Be bugfuck insane about your property lines

Around the bay where I live there's like a whole road down the waterfront that reaps a healthy harvest of cabins. These people, mostly from Toronto, have apparently memorized every square inch of their property lines and if someone swims 1mm over then it's shoutin' time and maybe a rousing round of physical assault if they're dismissed enough. My mother sometimes fills in for people on the phone lines during Cabin Season and from the stories she tells just a day there is all kinds of insanity.

and this is pretty much why i loving hate canadians

you're like the english without the loving class system

namaste friends
Sep 18, 2004

by Smythe


lmao hookshot you fuckin lived in this

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005

namaste faggots posted:



lmao hookshot you fuckin lived in this

Our apartment was actually way nicer than that one and listed for wayyyyyyyyy less than 1.7 million or whatever.

It was only 3 bedrooms though, not 4. Obviously that makes it worth over double the price.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

ductonius posted:

All natural bodies of water are Crown property. Any land between high and low water mark is Crown land. Do people own cabins because they enjoy getting told to gently caress off?

Uh, someone obviously hasn't heard of the Property Water Cone. Idiot.

(90% of waterfront cabin owners are not known for their knowledge of law, or knowledge of anything really)

EDIT: It's always jarring because my town is generally super easygoing and nice, and then every summer when Cabin Season rolls around we import a fresh batch of screaming lunatics for the season.

Yinlock fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Jun 23, 2016

ductonius
Apr 9, 2007
I heard there's a cream for that...

Yinlock posted:

Property Water Cone.

I can't tell if you're joking, but google literally has zero results for "Property water cone".

Is this just some poo poo cabin owners make up to justify being dicks or what?

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe
The trick to owning a cottage is to not live in the GTA or some other sprawling urban wasteland so you can be at the cabin in an hour and it's viable to use every weekend. Trying to get to the cabin from the GTA is indeed a nightmare and part of why we left Toronto.

Even though we don't own and tent it we can be set up before nightfall without even leaving work early if we're car camping or taking a half day for back country. Thats next to impossible if you come from the GTA.

The Butcher
Apr 20, 2005

Well, at least we tried.
Nap Ghost

Rime posted:

David Eby did an AMA over on /r/vancouver today. It's pretty great, dude is definitely from the new generation of politicians and doesn't mince words about the shitshow we're in.

Highly refreshing, to say the least.

The gently caress is this guy not party leader for? Why does the NDP hate winning so much?

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

ductonius posted:

I can't tell if you're joking, but google literally has zero results for "Property water cone".

Is this just some poo poo cabin owners make up to justify being dicks or what?

It's a dumb joke about how dumb cabin owners assume that their property lines extend to the water. They're, uh, not very smart.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Yinlock posted:

EDIT: It's always jarring because my town is generally super easygoing and nice, and then every summer when Cabin Season rolls around we import a fresh batch of screaming lunatics for the season.

This is why rurals need guns.

Why's it called tourist season if you can't shoot them?

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

The Butcher posted:

The gently caress is this guy not party leader for? Why does the NDP hate winning so much?

The NDP, like every other party including the Greens, is ossified by a metric ton of career bigwigs who've been in charge their entire lives and hold an iron grip on party policy, and most voting members are boomers. Some radical like Eby, being even younger than J.Tizzy, will never be elected leader in this climate.

Tl;Dr: Because we haven't had a big ol' war in too many generations and some old people just need to fuckin' die already. There is no wisdom nor value to be found in our current crop of elders.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




e:^^^ We havnt had any kind of global disaster in a very long time, which is typically natures way of handling human population booms.

Lacrosse posted:

So does like every Canadian have a cabin or something? I don't know anyone here in the states with a cabin in the woods. Here people just go find a campground and throw down a tent/sleep in an RV.

Id say ~20% of cottagers traveling through Barrie in the summer up to cottage country are American with Ohio and Michigan plates being the vast majority of them. Its not a uniquely Canadian thing, though I do think its largely tied to the east coast of both countries.

Also gently caress all those people, tax the poo poo out of the cottages to pay for all the infrastructure they constantly demand be built and maintained out in the middle of nowhere. :colbert:

Furnaceface fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Jun 23, 2016

cowofwar
Jul 30, 2002

by Athanatos
The sunshine coast is just as full with rich assholes trying to keep people off the beaches. Tough luck rear end in a top hat, I can do whatever the gently caress I want below the winter high tide line including camping and having a fire right in front of your house.

Descend to slumber
May 12, 2001



cowofwar posted:

Nanaimo? Nanaimo. Peak bubble, calling it.

Peak bubble's not happening until we see people paying 15% over asking in Pt. Alberni and Pt. Hardy!

Nanaimo is small potatoes, and besides you can commute to Vancouver from there if you're prepared to eat $40k a year Harbour Air flights!

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

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My father in law has a cabin in Washington state that he bought for $4,000, not too far from Vancouver (Anacortes).

Terex
Jan 2, 2013

cowofwar posted:

Cottages in Ontario aren't cabins, they are literal second homes with all amenities. I was confused since when I was in BC a cabin was just a shack with a wood stove.

It's the same way in Alberta. Here's a 2 million dollar "cabin" at Pigeon Lake.

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/Single-Family/15866759/35-Silver-Beach-Road-Rural-Wetaskiwin-County-Alberta-T0C2C0-Silver-Beach

And a 2.3 million dollar "cabin" at Sylvan Lake

https://www.realtor.ca/Residential/Single-Family/16583896/141-Birchcliff-Road-Sylvan-Lake-Alberta-T4S1R6

However, I imagine a cabin in Northern Alberta would be more of a shack. Pigeon Lake is where everyone from Edmonton goes while Sylvan is Calgary.

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Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

cowofwar posted:

The sunshine coast is just as full with rich assholes trying to keep people off the beaches. Tough luck rear end in a top hat, I can do whatever the gently caress I want below the winter high tide line including camping and having a fire right in front of your house.

The one person I know who sort of has a boat used to do this at some of the privately owned islands and isolated beaches rich people try to claim as their own. Even then they don't own the beaches, so him and his friends would go over and do beach-combing and fires and stay the night and party. Usually just for prime beach combing, but if some private property owner gave them poo poo you can bet they'd stay to party. They ended up finding a bunch of very expensive navigational buoys and other beach comby stuff and making some good money too.

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