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This is purely anecdotal, but if you're the sort of person who's buying all the X-titles because you're an X-Men supernerd, you're probably not buying the Deadpool stuff, or you're buying it for a different reason.
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Jay & Miles said Deadpool is not under the X-office at Marvel when they started doing video reviews of "all" the X-books.
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Jun 22, 2016 07:04
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I guess that explains why he gets merchandise.
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Squizzle posted:While Deadpool walks, talks, and quacks like an X-men character in a lot of ways—his film rights go with the X-men rights, he might still be edited by the X-office, his in-character backstory ties in with Weapon X—he's not an X-men character in a lot of other ways. The ways in which he's not an X-character are the ones that would be important to a lot of X-books fans: he doesn't touch the bigotry metaphor or the extinction drama that have driven X-books for decades; he doesn't interact with classic X-characters, -settings, or -situations very much (and in fact interacts with the MU at large a lot more); he hasn't been part of the franchise-defining comics like the characters of Claremont and Morrison. Sure, but the argument is "Marvel hates X-Books because Fox has the movie rights!!!!" so Deadpool would certainly be included under that supposed hatred, regardless of whether he fits in thematically or not.
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Endless Mike posted:Sure, but the argument is "Marvel hates X-Books because Fox has the movie rights!!!!" so Deadpool would certainly be included under that supposed hatred, regardless of whether he fits in thematically or not. http://webm.land/media/2iUQ.webm But whatever the reason for the line looking like it does, I can understand X-men fans feeling underserved by the current line, which has contracted to a small number of "classic mutant" team books, plus Wolverines. It probably doesn't help that none of the team books has a marquee creative team. Having a lot of good Deadpool comics doesn't offset that for the hypothetical X-men enthusiast I'm imagining.
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Jun 22, 2016 14:04
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None of them even have Cyclops.
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Endless Mike posted:Sure, but the argument is "Marvel hates X-Books because Fox has the movie rights!!!!" so Deadpool would certainly be included under that supposed hatred, regardless of whether he fits in thematically or not. Ah, yeah. There's still quite a few books going on each month, even without the Deadpool enclave. There are elements to that argument I can kind of buy--making Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch not mutants so they could be used by the MCU, and depowering mutants and bringing in Inhumans certainly seems suspect if you're already on board with the theory. But honestly you can deflate that theory with the simple statement that Marvel needs money and X-books are a big seller. Really, Deadpool is the bigger proof against Marvel sidelining the properties they don't own the rights to. It's certainly true that Marvel is pushing Inhumans (despite apparently any reader interest whatsoever; I literally had to stop and think about what they were called for a minute) so that any new superpowered characters end up under their banner, but that doesn't have to mean they're crippling the X-Men line at the some time.
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Rochallor posted:There are elements to that argument I can kind of buy--making Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch not mutants so they could be used by the MCU,
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Jun 22, 2016 14:49
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Same with Squirrel Girl. If you actually think a quick little joke by the writer would hold up in a legal challenge you're crazy.
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Aphrodite posted:None of them even have Cyclops. Young cyclops is in All-New.
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JoshTheStampede posted:Young cyclops is in All-New. Aphrodite posted:None of them even have Cyclops. I know I'm in the minority, but I like adult Scott.
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Jun 23, 2016 03:55
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I like adult Scott Summers, shame he disappeared twenty years ago and was replaced by Am I cool yet?-man.
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Cool, twins.
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I like Scott because of how nonsensical his character is. He started out a simple guy who shoots lazers out of his eyes and ended up a mutant messiah/terrorist/worst husband/etc who died throwing a tantrum at the Inhumans.
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I mean supposedly the Inhumans let loose a plague that targeted mutants and resulted in a lot of mass death (right?) so I can understand Scott getting ticked off. I need to catch up on X-Men, god.
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.thanks a lot mobile
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SirDan3k posted:I like adult Scott Summers, shame he disappeared twenty years ago and was replaced by Am I cool yet?-man. Why would they replace Scott Summers with Aquaman?
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JoshTheStampede posted:I know you're kidding but it's a testament to how lazy he is that he reuses his old stuff instead of finding a picture of Morena Baccarin or Gal Gadot or anyone who looks vaguely swarthy. I would like it if maybe he started tracing them more. Anyway, wasn't Greg Land fired off of a Marvel book for tracing the wrong things a while back? Endless Mike posted:This is not why that happened and would be a really, really stupid loophole if it was (and would also lead to them making everyone not a mutant which obviously hasn't happened). Why did it happen then? Dreqqus posted:I know I'm in the minority, but I like adult Scott. He was right, you know. Gonna get me a Tshirt.
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Because Marvel successfully argued they're Avengers related characters regardless of their species.
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HIJK posted:I mean supposedly the Inhumans let loose a plague that targeted mutants and resulted in a lot of mass death (right?) so I can understand Scott getting ticked off. True, but i forgot to mention the greatest part of that death: a founding member of the X-Men died offscreen and whichever Inhuman killed him seems to be totally cool with having done that because none of the Inhumans show any signs of remorse or sadness over killing a former hero. quote:
Just don't read the main 3 team books and you're good.
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Aphrodite posted:Because Marvel successfully argued they're Avengers related characters regardless of their species. I feel like an untold part of the agreement was Marvel not using Quicksilver after Ultron and Fox not using Scarlet Witch at all.
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DrProsek posted:True, but i forgot to mention the greatest part of that death: a founding member of the X-Men died offscreen and whichever Inhuman killed him seems to be totally cool with having done that because none of the Inhumans show any signs of remorse or sadness over killing a former hero. Massive attempts to poo poo on him over the years aside, in universe Professor X was more beloved than Scott. Scott killed Xavier, nobody gives a gently caress about Scott now. So he can get ganked and even a lot of his old friends are like ".....eh.", and most everyone else is some degree of "Good.".
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(Phoenix killed Xavier.)
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Boogaleeboo posted:Massive attempts to poo poo on him over the years aside, in universe Professor X was more beloved than Scott. Scott killed Xavier, nobody gives a gently caress about Scott now. So he can get ganked and even a lot of his old friends are like ".....eh.", and most everyone else is some degree of "Good.". By the end of Bendis' Uncanny X-Men everyone was cool with him. All his old friends come join his school, they came out for his Million Mutant March and the parts of UXM #600 that weren't everyone being cool with Scott were dedicated to everyone making GBS threads on Beast for being an idiot.
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Then he launched a suicide attack against a group of people that did sweet gently caress all to anyone. It's like killing Magneto. You may care about him, but at the end of the day you aren't going to be that shocked if someone puts him down.
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gently caress all except the genocide gas thing.
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Was there ever a comic that explained why Storm didn't just go blow the cloud into a volcano or something? I mean it kind of seems like a big plot hole that the defacto leader of the mutants who can control the weather has been powerless to stop a cloud for 6 months. I could guess that maybe she didn't want to cause an incident and decided that evacuating all mutants off earth was a better plan than fighting the inhumans?
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It's probably some handwavey "it's too big" explanation. I also want to know why they don't just ask Scarlet Witch to make up for her last mutant genocide by wishing the cloud away or something.
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Aphrodite posted:gently caress all except the genocide gas thing. Effectively one guy did that. That's it. One guy. And it's destroying their society, so it's not like they are happy about it in the seats of Inhuman power. Cyclops wanted to go gank Black Bolt on the sly, more power to him. That's not what he did, and he got dropped for it. Until it's revealed in like 8 months that he didn't, of course.
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:. Are you thinking if the Magnus portrait from House of M? That wasn't Land.
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Boogaleeboo posted:Effectively one guy did that. That's it. One guy. And it's destroying their society, so it's not like they are happy about it in the seats of Inhuman power. Cyclops wanted to go gank Black Bolt on the sly, more power to him. That's not what he did, and he got dropped for it. Until it's revealed in like 8 months that he didn't, of course. Yeah well that's how monarchies work. The Inhumans aren't mad about what it did to mutants anyway, they're mad that now they can't keep slaves. As Abraham Lincoln once said, if you keep slaves I will attack you with optic blasts. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Jun 23, 2016 |
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Aphrodite posted:As Abraham Lincoln once said, if you keep slaves I will attack you with optic blasts. Pictured here, President Abraham Lincoln delivering the X-mancipation Proclamation: 
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Welcome to the Ford Theater, Mr. President. Hope you survive the experience!
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Feel that groovy disco beat.
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Aphrodite posted:Same with Squirrel Girl. With Disney Lawyers, anything is possible. Not to mention Doreen has never been part of an X-men team ever.
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And that's why she's Marvel's, not because of some bad joke.
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I don't really get why people keep saying "Black Bolt got what was coming to him, he's totes suffering the consequences of unilaterally forcing Terrigenesis on thousands of people and unleashing the M-pox." Cuz' the last I saw of him, the douche was living the high life in his own personal casino, bossing around a bunch of minions...sorry, employees. Not quite the pitiable, guilt-ridden state that folks have described here. So he's not king of an entire species anymore. So his wife left him. Big whoop? How'sabout we see him show any remorse whatsoever about anything he's done...or, failing that, at least throwing some of his considerable influence into fixing the situation or helping its victims, instead of doing his best Al Pacino impression in some lavish penthouse.
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Personally, I can't wait for Black Bolt to start doing mountains of cocaine.
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The man has been reduced to begging for WWF championship belts, people.
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BrianWilly posted:I don't really get why people keep saying "Black Bolt got what was coming to him, he's totes suffering the consequences of unilaterally forcing Terrigenesis on thousands of people and unleashing the M-pox." Cuz' the last I saw of him, the douche was living the high life in his own personal casino, bossing around a bunch of minions...sorry, employees. Not quite the pitiable, guilt-ridden state that folks have described here. So he's not king of an entire species anymore. So his wife left him. Big whoop? How'sabout we see him show any remorse whatsoever about anything he's done...or, failing that, at least throwing some of his considerable influence into fixing the situation or helping its victims, instead of doing his best Al Pacino impression in some lavish penthouse. I thought Black Bolt couldn't talk. Did that change?
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