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Roland Jones posted:No One Escapes Death. After at least one gate is open, your cooldown on both successful and missed attacks lowers, you move faster, and if you have the T3 version, your attacks instantly down people. Beautiful. There is one way to counter annoying T3 survivor perks
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Beautiful. There is one way to counter annoying T3 survivor perks One of many reasons I will salute our invincible wraith overlords once they do nerf infinite juking
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Jun 23, 2016 19:10
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Man, I really have had to change my perception of the game after reading through forums and such. It's not a survival game, it's a style game. The person who escapes is not the winner, it's whoever can get that SS point rank
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Jun 23, 2016 19:14
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Man, I really have had to change my perception of the game after reading through forums and such. It's not a survival game, it's a style game. The person who escapes is not the winner, it's whoever can get that SS point rank Yeah, after realizing that it's actually better to hook a guy multiple times rather than sacrificing him I'm definitely switching up my style. I've been frustrated because I can't kill everyone most of the time, but it's not the point of the game so now I'm going to terrify some assholes instead.
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Jun 23, 2016 19:37
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The point of the game is to faithfully recreate a bad slasher horror movie where people keep nearly dying and improbably surviving before there's an orgy of violence near the end and a few lucky souls survive.... OR DO THEY?
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Jun 23, 2016 19:49
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Tips for what should I be doing if someone is infinitely juking? Like lets say at that area with 4 windows at the top of the factory. Am I supposed to just give up and find someone else who will also infinitely juke? If I come back for the person they run to the top of the factory while 3 other survivors turn on all the generators and I haven't even so much as tapped anyone yet.
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Jun 23, 2016 22:13
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Phrasing posted:Tips for what should I be doing if someone is infinitely juking? Like lets say at that area with 4 windows at the top of the factory. Am I supposed to just give up and find someone else who will also infinitely juke? If I come back for the person they run to the top of the factory while 3 other survivors turn on all the generators and I haven't even so much as tapped anyone yet. Ironworks, Coal Tower, Abattoir and the Wretched Shop are all complete bullshit unless you're a trapper and then they're only mostly bullshit
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Phrasing posted:Tips for what should I be doing if someone is infinitely juking? Like lets say at that area with 4 windows at the top of the factory. Am I supposed to just give up and find someone else who will also infinitely juke? If I come back for the person they run to the top of the factory while 3 other survivors turn on all the generators and I haven't even so much as tapped anyone yet. That spot in particular you will never get them. Even with traps it just makes it manageable instead of impossible. Leave, assume the generator is a goner, and hope you can nab them somewhere else. The infinite juking is extremely frustrating when it happens but to be honest it doesn't happen all that often unless you regularly play with higher than rank 10. Most people who try to do it don't actually know how and get caught. One shot on a window is usually enough. Just like with the rest of the game the key to surviving is to not panic. Most people who take a hit while trying to infinite juke will panic and leave the jukespot where it's easy to get the second hit. Never chase people in the following unless you know you can get them: Ironworks (the worst) The small building in Azarov's Resting Place The bus The entrance to the mine in Suffocation Pit The fallen grain silo (More manageable once the pallets are broken. Trap the window in the tall grass and you'll get someone every time) The body shop The coal tower is pretty bad but not the worst The Blood Lodge is doable The farmhouse in Coldwind is actually a deathtrap, nobody gets out of that place alive Mister Bup fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Jun 23, 2016 |
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Jun 23, 2016 22:22
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I treat infinite juke spots as calling house and just go off to find someone else. I like the Hillbilly right now because there's no healkit cheese allowed when you smack them with a chainsaw and if you're against a really good survivor team you need to hit them before they reach their juke points. It needs a fix and I'm sure the Devs are aware of how silly it is.
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Man, I really like Saboteur. I just wish I had it at a higher rank that 1; it is agonizingly slow at this level. Still fun to destroy hooks (or the Trapper's traps), though. I do find it odd that successful skill checks while sabotaging hooks make a loud noise, though, while missing them makes no actual noise but seems to alert the killer as every time I've screwed one up the killer showed up not too long afterward.
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Yeah they get a notification similar to a failed check on a generator. Rank 1 sabotage is pretty garbage, probably not worth using, at rank 2 it's decent but still quite slow, can't wait to get rank 3.
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I go on the steam forums so you don't have to.devs posted:
Good to see that there's a lot of things like window hopping and perk rebalances going on. I am a bit concerned about the "get gud scrub" approach they are taking to it, since a game that is only fun at the top of the experience bar is hard to bring new blood into. But it could be good? Maybe. CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Jun 24, 2016 |
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Indecisive posted:Yeah they get a notification similar to a failed check on a generator. Rank 1 sabotage is pretty garbage, probably not worth using, at rank 2 it's decent but still quite slow, can't wait to get rank 3. At all ranks sabotage is for loving with trappers and grinding BP, don't expect killing hooks to actually impact a match at all
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I go on the steam forums so you don't have to. A lot of these patch notes read like they might be playing their own game. Kind of want to see Wraith tweaked because he's bad past a certain player bracket though, though I do like their response to the OP whiners.
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Nebiros posted:A lot of these patch notes read like they might be playing their own game. Kind of want to see Wraith tweaked because he's bad past a certain player bracket though, though I do like their response to the OP whiners. Once window cheese is nerfed Wraith's unparalleled tracking ability will make them unquestionably the strongest killer and I'm pretty sure it won't even be close. If you've ever tried to beat a good wraith with high level perks and decent add-ons on Shelter Woods you've seen the future
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Nebiros posted:A lot of these patch notes read like they might be playing their own game. Kind of want to see Wraith tweaked because he's bad past a certain player bracket though, though I do like their response to the OP whiners. I wouldn't be surprised if the Wraith's first change would be to alter it so he doesn't get points from decloaking off a hooked guy, it seems every match I have against him sounds like Note Dame ringing out 120000 o'clock as he grinds up points.
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quote:Female killer is a great idea. Hell yes. Give me a horrific spider lady or something. I'm in.
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UberJew posted:Once window cheese is nerfed Wraith's unparalleled tracking ability will make them unquestionably the strongest killer and I'm pretty sure it won't even be close. If you've ever tried to beat a good wraith with high level perks and decent add-ons on Shelter Woods you've seen the future At that point you're probably right. I'd argue Hillbily will still be better though. Even now screaming across the map is super good and his chainsaw is only directional up close.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I go on the steam forums so you don't have to. little concerned that they didn't mention the huge advantage a premade has over a killer due to out of game communication, but beyond that this is pretty heartening
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Nebiros posted:At that point you're probably right. I'd argue Hillbily will still be better though. Even now screaming across the map is super good and his chainsaw is only directional up close. If window cheese is out and you can't run then you escape by hiding (or by being in the junkyard map that has Way Too Many loving Pallets), and all the chainsaws in the world isn't better at beating that than a wider FOV, day-glo pink blood trails and a 6m wallhack on a yellow add-on to neutralize tall grass, cornfields and crouching behind cover
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I wouldn't be surprised if the Wraith's first change would be to alter it so he doesn't get points from decloaking off a hooked guy, it seems every match I have against him sounds like Note Dame ringing out 120000 o'clock as he grinds up points. Oh, that's why they do it. I should really try to get some wraith levels if they track that well.
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Roland Jones posted:What's that last thing referring to? I forget the name but the wraith has an uncommon add on that highlights survivors through cover within 6m and a rare that does so within 8m.
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UberJew posted:I forget the name but the wraith has an uncommon add on that highlights survivors through cover within 6m and a rare that does so within 8m. Is that it? I just assumed that they were referring to how he looks like a triangle. E. Has anyone been having super long matchmaking times when playing as the killer? It seems like the last few days it's been taking forever to get anything.
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Oh boy, despite Saboteur not showing up for me until level 16 or 17, I just got rank 2 to show up at 19. Beelining for that immediately.DreamShipWrecked posted:E. Has anyone been having super long matchmaking times when playing as the killer? It seems like the last few days it's been taking forever to get anything. There are probably just a lot of people wanting to be killer, so the survivors are spread thin.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:Is that it? I just assumed that they were referring to how he looks like a triangle. The leg day thing is a steam cesspit joke. He's got spindly legs.
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When I said "that last thing" I meant the last thing UberJew listed, not the thing about the Wraith's legs. I know about the leg day joke.
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Chance of being chased doggedly for an entire game = (value of item you bring into the match / time in match) * 1/number of the item you have left.
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teammates.png 2 guys got camped by the chainsawman with approximately no chance of rescue and I literally never saw the 3rd player so it became a game of metal gear solid while I took down all the hooks on half of the map that had the last 3 generators (away from the basement) and got them all to 99% before hitting them and juking the killer back to the escape hatch
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quote:Second of all, cheats are packaged with viruses, if you download a trainer, you will get a malware with it. Just don't do it. This is basically an old wives' tale, which reading between the lines means "we can't really do anything about it so we'll just scare you off of doing so."
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Midway through my last game, I had the 'I shouldn't be camping this hooked dude' epiphany and my points doubled what they normally are. Also, I love playing The Hillbilly. The map shrinks to half the size. Nowhere is safe. You have to get really good, or at least competent, at the chainsaw sprint though.
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I played a few private games with some friends last night, and we were just messing around mostly. I escaped via the hatch one game and got awarded my 15k blood points at the end for realsies. I haven't seen anyone else talk about this bug but I'm not gonna complain about it. Even at my mighty rank of 20 basically every game has at least one person disconnect. Aside from a leaver penalty (and maybe a lobby fishing penalty though if they add a with friends mode that should dial way down) I'd like to see a partial reward if your team mates escape even if you die. Being hook camped isn't really fun but knowing that it's buying your team time to finish and get out, and get you some points too, would make it less annoying.
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I still love my Trapper, but the Hillbilly has now become my Designated Rank 1 Killer. Nothing quite like taking down someone thirty levels higher than I am with a chainsaw to the face. Case in point. The fourth guy obviously pulled the plug when I sawed him right as the match started. God drat is it hard to get points with killer though.  E. Goddamn, next to the toolbox the map might be the best item in the game. Not for using, no no no. But 300 objective points every time you walk past something? Ask me how I realized there was an upper limit on how many points you can get in one category... CuddleCryptid fucked around with this message at 07:08 on Jun 24, 2016 |
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And with nothing but rank 1 whispers too  Probably gonna start putting time into Wraith. I really want SHadowborn at least but Bloodhound sounds cool if the blood really is bubblegum pink. I may as well do him now and not gently caress over my other characters by forcing them to go through the really long levels to get it. I knew Wraith would be bullshit without window cheese the first time I won a game as survivor. Without cheese 90% of staying alive is not being seen and Wraith has about a thousand different ways to find you.
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Mister Bup posted:And with nothing but rank 1 whispers too I only used it for that one match, it was kind of disappointing. It may be better at higher ranks, but all it did was tell me that someone was in my broad vicinity for the large majority of the match.
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I'm reaching a point where I just have absolutely no interest in playing with high level Jake's. I'm okay with anything high level meg's, claudette's or dwights can do. I just have no interest in playing a match that ends with me standing around doing nothing for a few minutes while I wait for someone to bleed to death because I have no hooks anywhere but the basement.
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I only used it for that one match, it was kind of disappointing. It may be better at higher ranks, but all it did was tell me that someone was in my broad vicinity for the large majority of the match. The range at rank 1 is so far it may as well be "yes, there are still survivors in this match"
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Mister Bup posted:The range at rank 1 is so far it may as well be "yes, there are still survivors in this match" That really feels like an ability that should shrink as you rank it up not increase.
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It does. 48/40/32. 32 is still probably too long for a perk slot So what's this thing about making lots of points with the Wraith? Because surprise spam is only 250 each and that's nowhere near enough considering it means I'm spending the whole game camping one person. Maybe that game wasn't a good indicator since three of them spawned together and teamed a generator every thirty seconds it seemed. Also, remove No One Escapes and just make all hits in the exit chamber insta-down. I don't think I"ve ever seen a game where so many people so consistently BM you. It's like playing counterstrike if every single player teabagged everyone they killed every time. I dunno what's worse, watching fuckers sit there in their unkillable jukespots, or knowing even if I did get them they'd just disconnect. Mister Bup fucked around with this message at 12:04 on Jun 24, 2016 |
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