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muike posted:i'm secretly kind of glad mech series don't, in general, go over how brutal they would be on pilots in melee combat. Are you forgetting Gundam IBO and Mikazuki "Crush the Cockpits" Augus?
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Are you forgetting Gundam IBO and Mikazuki "Crush the Cockpits" Augus? Mikazuki murdered a whole ton of dudes but they basically never went into gory detail about it, with one or two specific exceptions. It was mostly Mikazuki landing a hit and then a brutal crunch and you knew that guy was extremely dead.
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Kanos posted:Mikazuki murdered a whole ton of dudes but they basically never went into gory detail about it, with one or two specific exceptions. It was mostly Mikazuki landing a hit and then a brutal crunch and you knew that guy was extremely dead. And, given how often Tekkadan went in for salvage, you know somebody had to hose out the cockpits. You got just enough shots of how nasty it could be that you knew how bad it was without dwelling on it too much. It was a nice balance.
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Norris butchered a guntank crew with his gouf sword. Big oil spurt implied blood
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Patter Song posted:Hello Gundam thread! I suggest 00 because it is pretty different from other Gundams. If you like the first season, expect to be disappointed by the second.
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Jun 23, 2016 04:42
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And watch the dub because one of the main characters is voiced by Double D from Ed Edd n Eddy and it's loving surreal.
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Jun 23, 2016 04:48
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Patter Song posted:Hello Gundam thread! The box! The box! (I vote B)
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I think I'll give Unicorn another shot...if it doesn't click with me I'll try Victory. I hear in Unicorn I'm going to get to see some full frontal action, so I'm looking forward to that. EDIT: It's hilarious to me that there's a Gundam character with a name I have to turn Safesearch on if I want to find pictures of him. Patter Song fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Jun 23, 2016 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:Norris butchered a guntank crew with his gouf sword. Big oil spurt implied blood I think 00 also had some good old blade-through-cockpit shots, didn't it? The Exia's big honking metal sword, not a beam saber.
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Oh good, it is just a special. The visible names say Bearguy P and Lightning BWS Mk-III. The 00Q custom's name is cut off, but it's Qan[t] Something.
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BlitzBlast posted:Oh good, it is just a special. A special could still go either way if it's still following the BF-Try protagonists. We could get a nice varied range of short fights in a tournament... or a whole bunch of Sekai with everyone else barely getting a look-in for 45-90 minutes.
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BlitzBlast posted:Oh good, it is just a special. I don't suppose that has any information on the regular BF (non-Try) OVA? 
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STAND UP TO THE VICTORY (voted B for you)
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I don't think a short OVA would be able to fix the rut Build Fighters is in, though I'd love to be proven wrong.
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Jun 23, 2016 13:07
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BF is fine and good and I just want more. No amount of OVAs would be enough to fix Try.
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Try is salvageable but an OVA would probably just focus on a forgettable opponent hyped up to be a threat and hey look at all this merch!
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Jun 23, 2016 13:31
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Please fund my Kickstarter to go to Japan and force the Try writers to sit down and watch some good sports animes, tia
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Jun 23, 2016 13:33
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"Look at all this merch" would be okay if the MS design in Try were actually any good, but it's not, especially compared to BF's.
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Jun 23, 2016 13:36
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Ultimately even if the designs are the coolest thing ever, the core problem for me is that especially in a short OVA I feel like once again they wouldn't even bother trying to get me invested in the outcomes of the matches and that's a hell of a dead weight to tie around a sports show.
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Jun 23, 2016 13:41
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I liked the Powered GM Cardigan. Shame it was immediately benched.
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The GIG posted:I liked the Powered GM Cardigan. Shame it was immediately benched. BF-Try had a lot of poo poo against it, but it at least tried to go "girls play Gunpla Battles too  " without resorting to a string of pink/girly suits.Srice posted:Try is salvageable but an OVA would probably just focus on a forgettable opponent hyped up to be a threat and hey look at all this merch! And their only motivation will be "  I MUST BATTLE SEKAI! ". At the very least, if that QanT is anything to go by, they've learned to stick to fancy recognizable custom jobs instead of Original Gundam; Do Not Steal.
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I mean, just give us a few decent fights like the one in Episode 9, the Tryon 3 fight, or the Fumina/Yuuma half of the final battle. I'll be fine with that, although I'd like them to be goofballs more really.
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Pureauthor posted:I mean, just give us a few decent fights like the one in Episode 9, the Tryon 3 fight, or the Fumina/Yuuma half of the final battle. Drop it to a 2v2 (or even better; 1v1) format to fix the badly-overtaxed animation and show Sekai the door.
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The GIG posted:I liked the Powered GM Cardigan. Shame it was immediately benched. Regardless of how much of a feat of engineering the Winning/Star Winning Gundam were, the point where Fumina ditches the Cardigan is pretty much the point where Try starts going downhill.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:BF-Try had a lot of poo poo against it, but it at least tried to go "girls play Gunpla Battles too Did you forget what Fumina was wearing for half the series?
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Tae posted:Did you forget what Fumina was wearing for half the series? Oh, yeah  . To be fair, it does look like someone slapped them round the head mid-way through the series for that though with the sudden standard outfit change to actual clothes, second ED notwithstanding.
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I can't believe it took them this long to refer to Joseph by name. Edit: Poe looks like she's feeling pretty good about herself right now. That'll probably be fixed soon. E2: This episode had a weird intro and a shortened OP, what up? Oh, it's a recap episode, huh? Waffleman_ fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Jun 23, 2016 |
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Do the later uc shows dive into how messed up it is that literal child soldiers are becoming increasingly common? In the oyw it was a cruel necessity but I don't see too much shock about kamille flying around a war zone.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Do the later uc shows dive into how messed up it is that literal child soldiers are becoming increasingly common? In the oyw it was a cruel necessity but I don't see too much shock about kamille flying around a war zone. Victory absolutely does, and so does ZZ in its own odd way. There's also the Quess subplot in CCA, although that didn't land quite as well for a bunch of viewers.
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Patter Song posted:Hello Gundam thread! Unicorn is really good, though the ending tends to divide people. Victory is really, really bad. It has some good points but it's mostly just garbage. Season 1 of 00 is really solid, season 2 is extremely mediocre and the more you liked the first season the more you'll probably dislike the second.
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Gonna second Chickenfrogman's opinion on Victory. I think it's flatout the worst main Gundam series.
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Darth Walrus posted:Victory absolutely does, and so does ZZ in its own odd way. It always bums me out that Quess gets a bad rep since to me she's the most blatant & effective example of that in Gundam.
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Srice posted:It always bums me out that Quess gets a bad rep since to me she's the most blatant & effective example of that in Gundam. I think a good chunk of it is that she just isn't an especially sympathetic character. Tragedy tends to land harder when bad things happen to good (or at least likeable) people. Her subplot is hella hosed up, but there isn't really as much of a sense of loss to it as there might be. Uso, meanwhile, is a nice, sweet kid who gets put through one of Sigmund Freud's more profoundly hosed-up opium nightmares, even if he does make it out surprisingly OK in the end.
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Chickenfrogman posted:Victory is really, really bad. It has some good points but it's mostly just garbage. Raxivace posted:Gonna second Chickenfrogman's opinion on Victory. I think it's flatout the worst main Gundam series. Victory is pretty good, at least as good a 00 and better than Unicorn. Why do you hate it?
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MonsieurChoc posted:Victory is pretty good, at least as good a 00 and better than Unicorn. Why do you hate it? Cheap aesthetics (even if the fight choreography is good) and a story that spends most of its time as bland and bloated with steadily more frequent diversions into frothing batshit insanity? Unicorn was bland, but it was bland and pretty, and didn't slowly dissolve into a Dave Sim-esque rant on its writer's Very Important Views On Gender.
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It doesn't sound like a lot of Gundam is very good.
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Waffleman_ posted:It doesn't sound like a lot of Gundam is very good. A lot of Gundam, I'd say, has good elements but almost every series has flaws. What tends to make a Gundam 'work' is if those flaws outshine the weaknesses which is why there is such a large divide on what is and isn't a good Gundam show. I tend to prefer Tomino Gundam which I find the most conceptually interest but also acknowledge even the most accessible of it is Tomino As gently caress and I'm not as big on Turn-A as a lot of people here because I really could not get into the protagonist at all. I recognize it has a lot of strengths and enjoy the side characters but Loran is kept from the bottom of my Gundam Protagonist Tier List only by the existence of the absolute shitfests like Kio or Kira.
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I like Loran but he's pretty boring and doesn't have much in the way of character traits other than "lets some people walk over him like a doormat"
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Loran wears a dress pretty good though. He has that over Heero and Mika. "Hey Kamille put this dress on!" I really need to finish Zeta...
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Darth Walrus posted:Cheap aesthetics (even if the fight choreography is good) and a story that spends most of its time as bland and bloated with steadily more frequent diversions into frothing batshit insanity? Unicorn was bland, but it was bland and pretty, and didn't slowly dissolve into a Dave Sim-esque rant on its writer's Very Important Views On Gender. This is pretty much why I hate Victory. I'm not a huge fan of Tominoisms and while some of his series are in my favorites, with Zeta Gundam in particular being my absolute favorite, it tends to be in spite of his insanity rather then because of it. Victory takes it to the ugliest extreme and is just an unlikeable show that I can't stand. Unicorn is bland but it's straightforward, knows what it is and what it wants to be, and has some of the absolute top tier animation, sound design, and music in the franchise.
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