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Sir Tonk posted:Still one of my favorite ideas ever, dude deserves a medal. When he started Ride of the Valkyries I loving lost it.
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Yeah but the Green Party is on the same level as the Libertarian party. Belva Ann Lockwood is the actual first woman presidential Nominee in that case. Like she was the nominee for the National Equal Rights party. So Jill Stein is wrong. Or just go down this list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_United_States_presidential_and_vice-presidential_candidates#Party_nominees Hollismason fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Jun 24, 2016 |
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Epic High Five posted:Somebody should just follow them with a tuba playing that fat doofus walk bit over and over like that one guy did with the skinhead march, then everybody laughed at them This is magical Just saw a a rep congressman named Jolly on CNN explaining his bill he plans on bringing up when the House returns, follows the No Fly List bullshit as the other bills but adds that the person in question must be notified by the government and be given the opportunity within 30 days to protest the decision. Of course, until the actual bill is presented it could all be bullshit but it's no worse than what's been proposed so far.
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Jun 24, 2016 02:46
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Dead Reckoning posted:rockets, modern airplanes, and microwaves If gun owners were mandated to visibly display publicly-published identification information linked to their full name and address whenever carrying or using their guns (as is the case with airplane owners, model rocket enthusiasts, and even drone hobbyists) that would honestly work pretty well for me, so yeah, sure. Forehead tattoos would probably work.
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Jun 24, 2016 02:53
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Hollismason posted:Yeah but the Green Party is on the same level as the Libertarian party. In terms of political relevance, they are behind even the libertarians.
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Hollismason posted:Yeah but the Green Party is on the same level as the Libertarian party. Belva Ann Lockwood is the actual first woman presidential Nominee in that case. As that list points out, Stein wasn't even the first female nominated by the Greens.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:This got me thinking: a lot of people don't seem to realize that assault weapon bans don't actually have anything to do with automatic weapons. They explicitly state that they apply to semi automatics. Which are legal. Almost as if the term "assault weapon" and the manner in which it is used are intentionally meant to cloud the issue. It's certainly rare for registered automatics to be used in crimes, but it's for the same reason the one rarely sees Beretta Imperiale Monte Carlo or Holland & Holland Royal Deluxe over-under shotguns used in crimes: the people who can afford to drop five figures on a gun are not the people holding up liquor stores or popping caps at each other on the corner. That said, if your goal is to price weapons out of reach of the lower classes for their own good, it's best not to say it explicitly. There are a few people who push to reopen the MG registry, and even before it was closed registered MGs were almost never used in crimes, but most gun owners have it filed under "never gonna happen."
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Jun 24, 2016 03:08
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HookedOnChthonics posted:If gun owners were mandated to visibly display publicly-published identification information linked to their full name and address whenever carrying or using their guns (as is the case with airplane owners, model rocket enthusiasts, and even drone hobbyists) that would honestly work pretty well for me, so yeah, sure. Not that it would be a gigantic burden if we did, but I don't think model rocketeers have to display their name or NAR/TRA number or anything when flying, just be certified and have that card in their wallet. I hope I haven't been unwittingly doing it wrong. 
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Dead Reckoning posted:That said, if your goal is to price weapons out of reach of the lower classes for their own good, it's best not to say it explicitly. Bullshit. I'll repeat what I said twenty years ago about 'Saturday night specials': You have a right to buy a gun. You don't have a right for it to be affordable.
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Full Battle Rattle posted:In terms of political relevance, they are behind even the libertarians. I'm not sure the Greens are even as relevant as the Constitution Party.
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They're as relevant as measles.
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Epic High Five posted:Somebody should just follow them with a tuba playing that fat doofus walk bit over and over like that one guy did with the skinhead march, then everybody laughed at them Rs4P1kKK-5k
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Electric Bugaloo posted:When radar was first pioneered it was straight-up introduced as a potential avenue for the creation of a sci-fi "death ray" type weapon. Holy hell this thread is already a standard-bearer for speciousness but goddamn if 'Nikola Tesla once dreamed of a death ray, therefore...' doesn't take the cake E: JerryLee posted:Not that it would be a gigantic burden if we did, but I don't think model rocketeers have to display their name or NAR/TRA number or anything when flying, just be certified and have that card in their wallet. The government quite literally doesn't have to regulate model rocketry (much) because powermad hobbyists do it for them. We have yet to suffer a rash of Estes-based murders, to the best of my knowledge. HookedOnChthonics fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Jun 24, 2016 |
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A Winner is Jew posted:Thomas should have because his wife works as a lobbyist for the healthcare industry. It's a toss up between Thomas and Roberts for which justice gives the least fucks about corruption on the bench but if any of the sitting justices were to ever get removed for corruption my money's on Thomas.
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Gyges posted:I'm not sure the Greens are even as relevant as the Constitution Party. I've never heard of the constitution party so I guess this is where you and I part ways.
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Full Battle Rattle posted:I've never heard of the constitution party so I guess this is where you and I part ways. Far right Christian fascists.
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HookedOnChthonics posted:The government quite literally doesn't have to regulate model rocketry (much) because powermad hobbyists do it for them. Maybe you knew this and your (much) was meant to account for it, but there actually was a long battle in the courts between the major rocketry associations and the government over exactly the extent to which sport rocketry needed to be governmentally regulated. Wikipedia posted:Tripoli was involved as a plaintiff in a nine-year lawsuit (in conjunction with the National Association of Rocketry as a co-plaintiff) against the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) as the defendant, regarding its claims of jurisdiction over and legal classifications regarding permitting, storage, and use of ammonium perchlorate composite propellant (APCP) in rocket motors. On March 16, 2009, the US District Court for the District of Columbia found in favor of TRA/NAR, and ordered the BATFE to vacate APCP from its list of regulated explosives. Agreed that the hobby in general does a good job of responsibly self-regulating itself. Gun enthusiasts should take note.
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Has the Green Party always been so " We need to go back to living in huts and stop using modern medicine to prevent diseases" or has it just been in recent years that they veered into weirdness. I honestly don't know that much about the party. I always thought it was just a environmentalist party.
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Populism isn't always racist, though that's been the trend since the early 30's in America. The Share our Wealth movement led by the Kingfish himself; Huey Long, was economic in nature. Unlike the New Deal, which left out Black folks as it was passed to undercut Long's movement, Share the Wealth had no such omission.
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Potato Salad posted:http://fortune.com/2016/06/22/brexit-donald-trump/ The only requirement to be a populist leader is that you have a bunch of people who like you, because they believe your platform is in their interest. The populist can be left or right; fascist or anarchist; warmongering or pacifist to a fault. They just need popularity. It's rather like how we define pop music: it's pretty much just what's in right now, and it robs other genres constantly - plus it's rarely the same thing year to year let alone decade to decade. Usually, both serious party presidential candidates will be reasonably populist on one or more issues. Often they ll be populist on the same big issue in opposite ways!
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So I hate to be that America centric guy, but what does a brexit vote mean for me? Because holy crap it might be happening
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Zelder posted:So I hate to be that America centric guy, but what does a brexit vote mean for me? Because holy crap it might be happening I thought it was not going to happen?!!! Oh poo poo.
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Zelder posted:So I hate to be that America centric guy, but what does a brexit vote mean for me? Because holy crap it might be happening Cheap vacations in the UK and Milo gloating for a week or two Right now all signs are pointing to the entire world losing all faith in the Pound Sterling so they're really hosed in the short term. In the last 12 hours it's dropped to the lowest it's been in decades. Tough to say how anything will spin here but I think since Trump already has all the isolationists locked down and he's 100% behind a policy that would have resulted in said huge economic depression I'm not as confident it helps him as others here
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Zelder posted:So I hate to be that America centric guy, but what does a brexit vote mean for me? Because holy crap it might be happening Nothing immediately. The process will take at least two years, and even then its impact will be minor. It won't crash us, but may knock like 0.5% off our GDP for a few quarters is my best guess.
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Hollismason posted:Has the Green Party always been so " We need to go back to living in huts and stop using modern medicine to prevent diseases" or has it just been in recent years that they veered into weirdness. Green party beliefs have barely budged since the 60s and 70s. Most of their worst current policy proposals were considered plausible or downright correct with the knowledge of the time, even 40 plus years on we see they suck.
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Zelder posted:So I hate to be that America centric guy, but what does a brexit vote mean for me? Because holy crap it might be happening It's nice to know that we're not the only country dumb enough to shoot ourselves in the foot because of racism.
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Is the Brexit going to actually happen though?
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Zelder posted:So I hate to be that America centric guy, but what does a brexit vote mean for me? Because holy crap it might be happening It means the world markets get a sampler platter of a trump election, and britain loses about a trillion dollars in 12 hours. If you have any investments, expect them to take a tumble.
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Hollismason posted:Is the Brexit going to actually happen though? All signs point to yes
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Hollismason posted:Is the Brexit going to actually happen though?
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Markets plummet, Trump gets elected, 10,000 years of darkness.
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Hollismason posted:Has the Green Party always been so " We need to go back to living in huts and stop using modern medicine to prevent diseases" or has it just been in recent years that they veered into weirdness. I knew they opposed nuclear power, but hasn't heard about anything regarding medicine, so I looked up Jill Stein on Wikipedia: quote:Stein has stated that "vaccines in general have made a huge contribution to public health," but suggested that it is reasonable to be skeptical of mandatory vaccinations due to allegedly close connections between corporate interests and regulatory agencies.[105] Regarding homeopathic medicine, which the Green Party supports "the teaching, funding and practice of", Stein has stated that it is problematic that "agencies tied to big pharma and the chemical industry" test medicines Hoo boy.
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Bushiz posted:It means the world markets get a sampler platter of a trump election, and britain loses about a trillion dollars in 12 hours. If you have any investments, expect them to take a tumble. heh heh, poverty boys triumph yet again
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I mean in addition to just being really worried for all my friends in the UK in general, I'm also really worried that the global economic chaos Brexit could cause having a knock-on effect and giving Trump the opening he needs to slide back into polling decently. I mean, maybe not, since he's already shown he couldn't manage to take advantage of the other crisis everyone said he would capitalize on, but you never know...
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Don't people tend to vote more conservative in times of economic crisis?
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The Green party position on any issue is <statement vague enough for anybody to find what they're looking for> It's a banal party of wishy washy single issue types which is why, despite name recognition, they're dramatically inferior to the Libertarians, who are at the very least united in their desire to see child prostitution legalized and all social services cut to zero
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If trump were halfway capable of speaking intelligently when pushed on a topic I'd be worried
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I just wanted to point out that, according to Wikipedia, Jill Stein has won two elections in her life. Each time winning with about 500 votes.
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Hollismason posted:Don't people tend to vote more conservative in times of economic crisis? Generally, yeah. Do they vote more Trump though? The UK lost a trillion dollars in the last 12 hours by following his blueprint, I expect Clinton will bring that up
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