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Peztopiary posted:Watching GW crater because of Brexit only to get bought out by Hasbro for the IP is my current 'enormous fuckups' fantasy. Then they both explode when Trump is elected. 2016 is quite a year.
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Kai Tave posted:it hastens the inevitable collapse of modern civilization so that Games Workshop's games will soon be the pinnacle luxury good/new currency in the upcoming post-apocalyptic future. If the apocalypse ever happens it won't be running around from rape gangs it'll be a lot of D&D and Star Trek Attack Wing.
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Peztopiary posted:Watching GW crater because of Brexit only to get bought out by Hasbro for the IP is my current 'enormous fuckups' fantasy. It's right there on the list of "things I thought were impossible but just might actually end up happening", right along with "fully independent Scotland" and "a reunified Ireland". And it's all because of Brexit, the referendum that sounds like a breakfast cereal. 
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Jun 24, 2016 07:49
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Thanks Brexit. Threxit.
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SynthOrange posted:Thanks Brexit. Threxit. Thbrexit. Which sounds like something Bill the Cat would say.
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Jun 24, 2016 07:59
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Thbrexit is my favorite Don Martin onomatopoeia.
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Kai Tave posted:it hastens the inevitable collapse of modern civilization so that Games Workshop's games will soon be the pinnacle luxury good/new currency in the upcoming post-apocalyptic future. The jewel-like objects of magic and wonder will fetch many bullets and much grain in the brave new economy.
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Jun 24, 2016 08:38
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Brexit killed the Dollarydoo at the same time as it killed the pound, so no suddenly cheaper Mantic stuff for us
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Jun 24, 2016 08:42
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So, does mantic ship overseas? I don't want to buy from their US store 
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Atrocious Joe posted:The jewel-like objects of magic and wonder will fetch many bullets and much grain in the brave new economy. Someone needs to do a mockup of a War Boy spraying their mouths using that expensive Sigmarine gold paint.
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drgnvale posted:So, does mantic ship overseas? I don't want to buy from their US store Yes they do
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Jun 24, 2016 09:15
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Poor UK. On the upside all the UK computer poo poo I can possibly want cheap. If you know I wasn't doing things like paying bills and poo poo ahead of time. Mantic doesn't deserve being there I say.
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Jun 24, 2016 09:58
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FrostyPox posted:Brexit apparently is happening now The Bank of England has pegged pound sterling to the Sigmarine. Like, literally no one knows how this is going to play out but it's probably not a good idea to be shipping relatively heavy little metal luxury toys to continental Europe as a business model right now.
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Jun 24, 2016 11:18
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I guess these guys just got a lot cheaper if you're American or European
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Jun 24, 2016 12:56
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I read Dan Abnett's Titan comics. They have a bunch of scenes of Titans being boarded, it's pretty cool. GW is doing all these board games, they should do one where you have to defend a Titan from being boarders on the inside. Like, Mechanicus vs. Dark Mechanicus and cultists
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Jun 24, 2016 13:27
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Vitamin P posted:The Bank of England has pegged pound sterling to the Sigmarine. The US got off the Ur-Gold standard decades ago, but we still have idiots clamoring for it.
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Jun 24, 2016 13:36
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There's a lot of investment in gold mining companies as the market seeks traditionally safe havens. GW's switch back to metal casting is forecast to reduce their model prices by 15%.
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goatface posted:There's a lot of investment in gold mining companies as the market seeks traditionally safe havens. GW's switch back to metal casting is forecast to reduce their model prices by 15%. so our price will increase by 15%
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brexit: The Boris Heresy
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Jun 24, 2016 14:41
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This is hilarious. "We don't need points, everything works just as intended!" *introduces points, changes the stuff people thought was a mistake*
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The best part is I've seen Age of Sigmar fans wailing and gnashing their teeth about how the game is ruined now because there's POINTS. See: That Dakka thread I posted a while back, Prediction: This is what kills Age of Sigmar as the few people were playing liked the "no points" bullshit and quit, and new people don't pick it up because Age of Sigmar is still a bad game. The conclusion GW draws will be, as usual, the wrong one; they will decide they were right all along to not have points in Age of Sigmar and points is what killed the game. Next: Age of Emperor, no points
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A no-points 40k could be fantastic if handled properly. (It won't be.) Fix formations to a standardized platoon or equivalent, balance the armies around that as a unit. Instead of affixing points to micromanagement additions like special/heavy weapons, normalize the in-game value of each special/heavy weapon choice and allocate option them to each squad. Basically transition from a la cart list building to course meals. Army size becomes "number of courses." So instead of ABC points, you agree to have a game of X platoons. Then the armies start looking like armies instead of random toys a kid picked out from the toy store. TL;DR Unbound was a step in exactly the wrong loving direction.
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"Officers" and their subordinates perhaps. Then you can still have horde armies against elite troops. Or could do, if that didn't dangerously risk people not buying as many models as possible.
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goatface posted:"Officers" and their subordinates perhaps. Then you can still have horde armies against elite troops. A properly specific force org chart gives more guys to the horde armies.
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Brexit! OK probably a megapost after we see stuff settle out next week, but for now I'll just point out a handful of things: The UK pound falling against the dollar does not mean british stuff is cheaper for britons. This is why GW's stock is actually holding up pretty well: its dividend, paid in pounds, is still attractive to British investors, which is... most of its investors. Probably almost all. In the short term (say, the next month or three) unless GW announces a change in its dividend, don't expect the stock to tank. It's down, of course, every UK stock is down, but it's down less than the average as investors seek safer dividend-paying stocks. GW's costs for selling things overseas are certain to rise. Uncertainty over the fate of the EU will likely add to regulatory uncertainty - will the UK continue to comply with EU regulations, in order to not see its trade with the continent severed? Will the UK parliament be forced to adopt many of those regulations directly? Or will EU countries desperate to trade with the UK make concessions? Nobody really knows. But GW's costs for selling to the US will rise as the pound falls, just like every other UK exporter to the US. This does not necessarily translate into cheaper prices for Americans - GW (and other British companies) are very likely to maintain constant prices denominated in Dollars, since that directly benefits their bottom line. Brexit probably also tanks the UK economy generally, though. And that probably means poorer sales at GW retail locations in the UK, plus poorer sales on GW's website. GW is doing well with videogame licenses overseas, but the bulk of its revenues are still (and always have been) domestic sales via retail and web/mailorder. I don't expect Brexit to severely impact GW's next annual report, which I think is due in July... but the six month report after that is probably going to show a sharp drop in sales, and that's not good news for the company obviously. Finally... irrespective of what Cameron insisted, this was a non-binding referendum. It's not too late for UK politicians to decide to ignore it. Probably at their peril, but... Brexit will take at least two years of negotiations with the EU to complete and the most severe effects of that divorce will not be felt until that process is complete.
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Is there danger to smaller outfits like Hawk and Mantic?
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wdarkk posted:Is there danger to smaller outfits like Hawk and Mantic? Absolutely. Any UK-based business that has a significant export or import business with Europe is at risk. More broadly, the entire UK economy is at risk.
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'twas Brexit killed the GW beast EDIT: On a more serious note, I really hope that the effects aren't as bad as a lot of people fear. I admit part of this comes from a selfish place since I really don't want Hawk or Steamforged to go out of business because I want to keep buying their poo poo but I also really don't want to see massive unemployment and prices of necessities skyrocket in the UK cuz that's real lovely FrostyPox fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Jun 24, 2016 |
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On the plus side, this might set the ball rolling to ultimately destroy the EU entirely.
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I'd amend that to the world economy is at risk given the large UK financial sector.
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It's looking like apocalypse predictors were 4 years early. 
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I posted something about GW going bad late this year in the second round of bets so I'm still in. 
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Now I feel I should've joined in on the death pool proper.
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 I'm at an LGS right now and after the employee tried to get him to buy AOS, he talked to him about options he went for what looks like the 7th/8th starter instead.
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Avenging Dentist posted:On the plus side, this might set the ball rolling to ultimately destroy the EU entirely. Hooray! And then maybe in another decade or so we can get back to having horrifying intra-European wars! Wheee. No but seriously, the EU may suck really badly but it's an institution that came out of post-WWII sentiment that europe needed to come together not only to pool economic power, but to reduce the odds of a WWIII ever happening. A collapse of the EU is not really in anyone's best interests. Well. Maybe Vladimir Putin's.
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Leperflesh posted:A collapse of the EU is not really in anyone's best interests. Tell that to the PIIGS nations. The austerity policies forced on them (Greece most of all) have been pretty devastating. Greece is still at something insane like 25% unemployment.
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The line up of political figures congratulating the UK in the vote is pretty telling. When people like Vlady, Trump and Palin give you a hi5 you know you hosed up.
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Helicon One posted:brexit: The Boris Heresy 
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Avenging Dentist posted:Tell that to the PIIGS nations. The austerity policies forced on them (Greece most of all) have been pretty devastating. Greece is still at something insane like 25% unemployment. Greece will not be better off without the EU. That's not an argument in favor of austerity or in favor of the EU's current policies. But Greece hosed itself with decades of rampant corruption, tax avoidance, and total lack of an attempt to build a modern economy, and that's not going to be different just because there's no longer a european entity forcing them to take austerity measures in return for the loans keeping them from completely collapsing as a failed state. The EU has been pouring hundreds of billions of dollars into Greece and that money isn't there without the implicit threat of a member state defaulting. Also ask the eastern european EU countries how they feel about their chances against Putin when the EU collapses.
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