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Halman posted:The english are super duper stupid.
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If Scotland and Norn Iron (and London, lol) secede, we will have to rename Brexit into Brexplode.
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There's zero chance London would be allowed to secede, so it seems more like a bluff intended to make the situation messy enough that Brexit may not actually happen in the first place. I guess Sturgeon isn't an accelerationist.
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TomViolence posted:It'll be 90% soon enough, as funnily enough the feral underclass you're deriding is a product of poverty and lack of education and public services. So it is in Russia, but they are lumpenproles, so nobody cares, their best case scenario is being shot promptly against the wall.
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GaussianCopula posted:Nassim Taleb is such an arrogant prick who is pretty much the mathematicians version of Nigel Farrage and Donald Trump. true
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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The laffo train doesn't stop yet. Latest on Brexit: Petition for 2nd referendum crashes House of Commons websitequote:So many users are signing a petition for a re-run of Britain's referendum on European Union membership that they've crashed the House of Commons website hosting the document.
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Can anyone give a breakdown of remain/leave sentiment in the more eurosceptic countries? I'm thinking of the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark and France.
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waitwhatno posted:If French ever becomes the dominant EU language I'm seceding my rear end from this Union. I hated French language class more than anything else in this world, now and forever. gently caress French. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Jun 25, 2016 |
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Jun 25, 2016 10:59
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Can anyone give a breakdown of remain/leave sentiment in the more eurosceptic countries? I'm thinking of the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark and France.
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Jun 25, 2016 11:19
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Borken bastard english transform into lingua franca on it own is good. Irish should speak irish anyway, no ask them opinion.
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Jun 25, 2016 11:22
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Can anyone give a breakdown of remain/leave sentiment in the more eurosceptic countries? I'm thinking of the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark and France. Netherlands, France and Italy have had opinion polls with >45% for an exit at some point this year, those are probably the worst. "Leave the EU" doesn't seem like a relevant position in Sweden and Denmark.
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Jun 25, 2016 11:27
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Ok. Thanks for the info. 
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Just in case there's any confusion: this is the European Politics thread, not the EU Politics thread. Therefore British politics are covered under the thread's scope, up and until our friends in the UK vote for detaching their islands from the continental plate.Toplowtech posted:As a frenchman, you have my sympathy: the loving list of worthless exception rules in my mother tongue is insane, i am fine with it not being the top language as long as the dominant EU language isn't German. But i can suggest you a solution: we make a modified/simplified version of English (some kind Simplified Technical English variant but for politic not aerospace industry maintenance manuals) the official language of the EU. Let's call it European English. We create a European Academy of that language on the French Academy model, just because it's both pointless and a bunch non-english foreigners loving with the language in a building in Brussels, which will be popular in London, i bet. We slightly modify the whole language and add some grammar change and choose a poo poo "official" non-posh eu-friendly accent/pronunciation. I am pretty sure the Irish won't mind us bastardising the English language. Alternative suggestion: Make Irish English the official version of the language in the EU, pronounciation and all.
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Jun 25, 2016 11:40
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YF-23 posted:Just in case there's any confusion: this is the European Politics thread, not the EU Politics thread. Therefore British politics are covered under the thread's scope, up and until our friends in the UK vote for detaching their islands from the continental plate.
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Jun 25, 2016 11:41
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When magic comes back to our world, Irish speakers will become elves
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Jun 25, 2016 11:45
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Josef K. Sourdust posted:Can anyone give a breakdown of remain/leave sentiment in the more eurosceptic countries? I'm thinking of the Netherlands, Sweden, Denmark and France. Here in the Netherlands the same dumb fucks who managed to get a referendum about the Ukraine treaty are already trying to get a referendum about leaving the EU started. Fortunately our laws prevent one about existing laws and treaties, so for now we are safe. Looking at political parties, the only parties where a majority of voters want to leave are Geert Wilders' PVV, the socialists and a small party called 50+ which only cares about the, well, people of 50+ years old. Every other party and its voters want to stay. Official position of the socialists is also that we should stay in the EU, but it should be reduced to be mainly about trade and some issues like immigration and defense, basically the issues that cant be solved on a national level.
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I'm not an expert at UK politics, but I think this is a pretty decent guess at what the future holds for the British Isles. The implications are of course horrific, as the various English states could easily dominate the Eurovision Song Contest.
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Jun 25, 2016 12:16
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Kurtofan posted:When magic comes back to our world, Irish speakers will become elves
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Jun 25, 2016 12:21
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A Buttery Pastry posted:The implications are of course horrific, as the various English states could easily dominate the Eurovision Song Contest. Maybe one of them will field a decent one though!
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Jun 25, 2016 12:25
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YF-23 posted:Maybe one of them will field a decent one though!
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Jun 25, 2016 12:28
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I'm not an expert at UK politics, but I think this is a pretty decent guess at what the future holds for the British Isles. States? The Seven Kingdoms of England will rise again, in glorious heptarchy
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Jun 25, 2016 12:30
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Why do so many people outside the UK give a poo poo about what Scotland does? I guess they all watched Braveheart at an impressionable age. +scotch Describes me anyway.
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doverhog posted:Why do so many people outside the UK give a poo poo about what Scotland does? I guess they all watched Braveheart at an impressionable age. +scotch Describes me anyway. Just hilarity of how big of clusterfuck this whole stupid thing becomes. UK public probably shouldn't be allowed to vote anymore.
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Charlie Mopps posted:Looking at political parties, the only parties where a majority of voters want to leave are Geert Wilders' PVV, the socialists and a small party called 50+ which only cares about the, well, people of 50+ years old. Every other party and its voters want to stay. Official position of the socialists is also that we should stay in the EU, but it should be reduced to be mainly about trade and some issues like immigration and defense, basically the issues that cant be solved on a national level. A majority wants a referendum with polls showing more people voting leave then stay. Situation is actually very similar. http://www.nltimes.nl/2016/06/21/majority-dutch-also-want-referendum-eu-membership/ 'Every other party and it's voters wants to stay' is nonsense, they are all divided on the issue.
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Lagotto posted:A majority wants a referendum with polls showing more people voting leave then stay. Situation is actually very similar. That poll sounds fishy, as 27k participants sounds very, very high for a scientific poll.
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Malcolm XML posted:States? The Seven Kingdoms of England will rise again, in glorious heptarchy doverhog posted:Why do so many people outside the UK give a poo poo about what Scotland does? I guess they all watched Braveheart at an impressionable age. +scotch Describes me anyway. GaussianCopula posted:That poll sounds fishy, as 27k participants sounds very, very high for a scientific poll.
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GaussianCopula posted:That poll sounds fishy, as 27k participants sounds very, very high for a scientific poll. A dutch dude just told me he's never heard of the nltimes before, make of that what you will.
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GaussianCopula posted:That poll sounds fishy, as 27k participants sounds very, very high for a scientific poll. It's the same poll Charlie is basing his post on. Anyway, it is no big secret that there is huge EU resentment in the Netherlands (see also the Ukrain referendum which was essentially a vote on the EU) a vote on a Nexit would give the same 50/50 scenario as in the UK.
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Jun 25, 2016 13:07
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What do the Netherlands have to be mad about against the EU anyway.
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El Pollo Blanco posted:A dutch dude just told me he's never heard of the nltimes before, make of that what you will. Lets make nothing of it. I used that link because it is an english source. The poll is one regulary conducted on a lot of topics by a union of the Dutch broadcast organisations. I do not get why people think it is incredible to believe NL is very eurosceptic. Back in 2005 we already vetoed the European constitutional treaty by referenda together with France.
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Bit late to languagechat but my experience is that I have worked for a public sector EU project and now for a German company in Finland and never once have I witnessed people using any other language besides English even though Ireland and the UK were not involved in any way.
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YF-23 posted:What do the Netherlands have to be mad about against the EU anyway. They resent being forced to give you money.
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YF-23 posted:What do the Netherlands have to be mad about against the EU anyway. That's not the point. The EU is a stand-in for all the things that people are actually concerned or mad about - mass immigration, neoliberalism, the supposed disintegration of Western society.
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Lagotto posted:A majority wants a referendum with polls showing more people voting leave then stay. Situation is actually very similar. Yes they are divided, but a majority wants to stay: number of voters in favour of staying by party: PvdA (68%) CDA (68%) D66 (85%) GroenLinks (82%) ChristenUnie (61%) VVD-stemmers: 47% in favour, 45% wants out. Parties with lots of voters that want out of the EU: PVV 94% wants out SP 58% wants out 50+ 63% wants out
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Toplowtech posted:As a frenchman, you have my sympathy: the loving list of worthless exception rules in my mother tongue is insane, i am fine with it not being the top language as long as the dominant EU language isn't German. But i can suggest you a solution: we make a modified/simplified version of English (some kind Simplified Technical English variant but for politic not aerospace industry maintenance manuals) the official language of the EU. Let's call it European English. We create a European Academy of that language on the French Academy model, just because it's both pointless and a bunch non-english foreigners loving with the language in a building in Brussels, which will be popular in London, i bet. We slightly modify the whole language and add some grammar change and choose a poo poo "official" non-posh eu-friendly accent/pronunciation. I am pretty sure the Irish won't mind us bastardising the English language. As a German, I 100% agree with your post. We wouldn't want you to butcher our beautiful language anyway  And the hilarious "gently caress you" to the English by taking control of their language (at least in the EU) is an amazing idea.
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Charlie Mopps posted:Yes they are divided, but a majority wants to stay: This translates into 48% leave, 45% stay and the rest undecided for the overall vote.
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Torrannor posted:And the hilarious "gently caress you" to the English by taking control of their language (at least in the EU) is an amazing idea. How much control did the UK have about the purity of english in EU anyway? With them out, the language might just naturally migrate towards american english.
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There is already an International English standard. Making one just for the EU would be a waste of time.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:I'm not an expert at UK politics, but I think this is a pretty decent guess at what the future holds for the British Isles. The proud people of Devon would never submit to the Celtic tyranny that the flag of St. Piran represents! 
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Aside from Irish English, we're probably not too many years away from Scottish En- Make Scots the single working language of the EU
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