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bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Atomizer posted:

Like David Cameron's? :downsrim:

He wants to spend more time banging 1/3rd of a blt

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Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




I just don't understand how a whole generation of old people want to gently caress the economy and screw over the next generation. It's loving astounding and nobody cares.

Samopsa
Nov 9, 2009

Krijgt geen speciaal kerstdiner!
but the economy is already poo poo because all the brown people/poles/romenians took the gud jobs!

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through

Atomizer posted:

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention my favorite part of the Brexit voters: the idiots who voted [to leave] because they "didn't think their vote would count." Normally voter apathy causes citizens to not vote because they don't think their votes count. UK citizens apparently have their own logic and are surprised when their actions have consequences.

Fake Edit: Also, Vote Bernie 2016! :toot:

They really should have had another option:
[ ] Leave
[ ] Remain
[ ] lol

We have that in America, we call it voting third party.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

bobkatt013 posted:

He wants to spend more time banging 1/3rd of a blt
My suspicion is that he felt the bells ringing when that panama papers thing blew up., and is ducking the gently caress out of the way before he ends up in court

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Invalid Validation posted:

I just don't understand how a whole generation of old people want to gently caress the economy and screw over the next generation. It's loving astounding and nobody cares.

It's called "being a conservative" and it's not all that new really. gently caress you got mine is a staple of old people through time and history.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

Atomizer posted:

I was actually thinking that this is exactly how the rest of the world should respond. I have nothing against the UK, but the situation should be dealt with harshly to communicate the gravity of the decision, and to discourage the rest of the EU members from precipitating a total dissolution.

Politicians saying "the other countries are out to get us and extract their revenge on us and hold us back!" has been responsible for some pretty terrible atrocities in Europe before. Not that the British are going to go out and conquer Europe, there's too much stopping for tea to be able to do that effectively, but why even give them the posturing.

It's not a chief concern for "the rest of the world" outside of the EU to give much of a poo poo if the EU continues to exist or not. The general idea is that if all these countries unite their economies that they'll punch with the weight of a Russia or US or China, but there's legitimate criticism with the way the organization is run and it's not like Americans (particularly the ones that have a John Bolton view of the UN) are sympathetic to the idea of a multi-national body anyways. All you have to do is say, "they're make you give permanent green card status to the entire populations of a dozen other countries, rendering borders meaningless" and most Americans would say nuts to that.

I look forward to John's act of self-harm on air tonight.

ClydeFrog
Apr 13, 2007

my body is a temple to an idiot god
For all those saying the UK should get stomped on by the rest of the EU please just to make a point... The 16 million or so of us that didn't vote that way are absolutely making GBS threads themselves in between bouts of extreme anger. Only about 35% of our population voted for this cluster gently caress. If the EU offered us an olive branch I think it would make a huge difference given the giant amount of twats who suddenly realise what their vote meant and how much they've screwed the pooch. I'd happily fire Boris Johnson into the sun if required. If we get forced into a deep recession just to prove a point, every single conspiracy theorist is going to feel entirely justified about shadowy cabals - and if our economy goes down the shitter it's not going to happen in isolation. We're a significant part of the German car export market for example.

I'm planning on becoming a Brefugee...

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

ClydeFrog posted:

For all those saying the UK should get stomped on by the rest of the EU please just to make a point... The 16 million or so of us that didn't vote that way are absolutely making GBS threads themselves in between bouts of extreme anger. Only about 35% of our population voted for this cluster gently caress. If the EU offered us an olive branch I think it would make a huge difference given the giant amount of twats who suddenly realise what their vote meant and how much they've screwed the pooch. I'd happily fire Boris Johnson into the sun if required. If we get forced into a deep recession just to prove a point, every single conspiracy theorist is going to feel entirely justified about shadowy cabals - and if our economy goes down the shitter it's not going to happen in isolation. We're a significant part of the German car export market for example.

I'm planning on becoming a Brefugee...

Americans have nothing to laugh at. Come November we're going to vote in a bigoted racist as our president.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Theoretically, the EU weakening is good for the US, since the whole idea behind forming an economic union was to make the members better able to compete with the greater world around them. Less competition for America to deal with.

I'm more interested in how this will affect Russia, since the entire reason for the war in Ukraine was because Russia didn't like how Ukraine was gravitating away from the Russian sphere of influence and towards the EU's.

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.

Medullah posted:

Americans have nothing to laugh at. Come November we're going to vote in a bigoted racist as our president.

Who loving cares? Britain just slit it's own throat for nothing. The cornerstone of their economy is trade and finance, and they just took a vote that says "gently caress all that then". They have nothing to replace that aspect of their economy with, not to mention all the subsidies they get from the EU. The loss of which could devastate a lot of farmers even before the trade angle comes in. And the fact that a major focus of the push to get Scotland to stay was "If you leave, there goes your EU membership". Well guess what, they voted to stay in the UK *and* the EU and the English hosed them. They could easily be gone now. And it's not like Britain can just walk this back, because they've been making GBS threads on the EU for decades while getting all the best parts and ignoring the bits they don't like. The EU has flat out said "We want you to speedily move to disengage from the EU, and after you are gone you will not get special considerations from us". They are not going to easily forgive and forget this vote.

Trump is an idiot man baby that could potentially win an election where he could do damage, fine, but that is nothing to a country that just killed itself in front of everyone. Even the best case scenario for the UK still has irreparable harm being done to their position. All those financial firms are unlikely to ever move back, because the UK has proven itself unstable. Even if they somehow said "WE DIDN'T MEAN IT WE ARE SORRY WE AREN'T LEAVING OH GOD MAKE THIS STOP!" Scotland might still push to leave, because again....this vote will always have happened. They can't retroactively go back in time and unhave the vote. It will always be a reality that the English can say "We are gone", and the Scottish would have to live with that even though they want to be in the EU. So why not just leave and make your own EU deal?

And the other possibility is inside 10 years the UK flat out doesn't exist. Because of this. Because a stupid politician made a power play for approval that allowed bigots and spiteful morons to vote to destroy everything that gives their nation any meaning on the world stage. You might have watched a nation die to stupidity, and you think anything anyone else has ever done really rates in comparison in modern politics? Appreciate the historical moment you are party to, and raise a glass to Britain: Now and forever the worst people in history.

Love Crime
Apr 4, 2016

Jesus, you really, really like hyperbole.

Dirty Frank
Jul 8, 2004

Love Crime posted:

Jesus, you really, really like hyperbole.

Its very possible that the Britain looses: Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar as a result of this vote. Plus he's right that "The cornerstone of their economy is trade and finance", and we just cocked a snoot at our closest and biggest trade partner. So it is pretty bad.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Well

Look on the bright side



World War Three will be fun when all this poo poo collapses

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Burkion posted:

Well

Look on the bright side



World War Three will be fun when all this poo poo collapses

Fun for the robots, maybe.

tarlibone
Aug 1, 2014

Am I a... bad person?
Am I???
Fun Shoe

Jonas Albrecht posted:

Fun for the robots, maybe.

The American robots, you mean. Because we all know who has been responsible for helping Europe and the UK bail themselves out from Armageddon for the past 100+ years.

On the bright side, we might get to see war bond drives again, and factories will rebuild the middle class. Oh, you could use Chinese robots, you say? We dare you to try.

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


I can just see the racist anti-Chinese robots propaganda.

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!

tarlibone posted:

The American robots, you mean. Because we all know who has been responsible for helping Europe and the UK bail themselves out from Armageddon for the past 100+ years.

They'll still poo poo on our pop culture and call us fat. Hell, they'll point out that our heavy-metal-laden robots have lower BMIs than most of us, and those jeans look way better on them.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Dirty Frank posted:

Its very possible that the Britain looses: Scotland, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar as a result of this vote. Plus he's right that "The cornerstone of their economy is trade and finance", and we just cocked a snoot at our closest and biggest trade partner. So it is pretty bad.

Also it is an enormous strike to their credibility, which had made them a go to place for finance, that they just happily did a stupid as gently caress thing because the pig fucker let them.

Don't worry though, America isn't electing an orange buffoon. Even with out the massive Electoral College advantage that the Democrats have, Hillary has been leading Trump by as much as 13 point in polls and there's no signs of Trump suddenly not acting like a cheeto dusted douche bag. Britain had too many racist whites, America doesn't have enough racist whites to win elections by themselves anymore.

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo
It's encouraging that Hillary has a double digit lead over Trump; but I won't underestimate her ability to somehow gently caress it up and only barely win in November, not unlike how she almost lost the Democratic nomination twice.

But I'm hoping Trump loses and Brits under 30 start joking how everything sounds smarter in an American accent.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know
Hillary is going to win simply because we are super curious and excited to see Bill swinging his dick around (metaphorically and literally) as first Husband or whatever he ends up getting called.

I just imagine him doing all press conferences and initiatives in a Hugh Hefneresque robe.

NutritiousSnack
Jul 12, 2011

Gyges posted:

America doesn't have enough racist whites to win elections by themselves anymore.

Has winning by 4 points until two weeks ago, his recent dip in the polls has to do with infighting with the GOP and even his lack of confidence in making it this far this the race.

People thought Goldwater would lead to the death of the old GOP and their eventual swing to the left. Instead he was the philosophical father of Regan and both Bushes.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

NutritiousSnack posted:

Has winning by 4 points until two weeks ago, his recent dip in the polls has to do with infighting with the GOP and even his lack of confidence in making it this far this the race.

People thought Goldwater would lead to the death of the old GOP and their eventual swing to the left. Instead he was the philosophical father of Regan and both Bushes.

He's only winning at all because the Democrats are still split between Sanders and Clinton.

Once that's resolved Trump's chances will shrink.



We all hope

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo

NutritiousSnack posted:

Has winning by 4 points until two weeks ago, his recent dip in the polls has to do with infighting with the GOP and even his lack of confidence in making it this far this the race.

People thought Goldwater would lead to the death of the old GOP and their eventual swing to the left. Instead he was the philosophical father of Regan and both Bushes.
I always understood Trump's rise in the GOP as the probable, though not inevitable, outcome of Goldwater conservatism, and the direction it set for the American right. Like everything that happened in between 1964 and 2016 was one long story. The Southern strategy, Watergate, Reaganomics, Gingrich, "Compassionate Conservatism", the War on Terror, and the Tea Party were all incremental steps.

Like the GOP will continue to exist long after whether Trump wins or loses; but Goldwater and Trump serve as bookends of an epoch in the history of the Republican Party.

I Am Fowl
Mar 8, 2008

nononononono

swickles posted:

Hillary is going to win simply because we are super curious and excited to see Bill swinging his dick around (metaphorically and literally) as first Husband or whatever he ends up getting called.

I just imagine him doing all press conferences and initiatives in a Hugh Hefneresque robe.

He's already said he'd like to be referred to as the First Dude.

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

Mr. Fowl posted:

He's already said he'd like to be referred to as the First Dude.

FDOTUS. That has a weird ring to it. strangely appealing.

Die Sexmonster!
Nov 30, 2005
I'm still partial to First Laddie.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

NutritiousSnack posted:

Has winning by 4 points until two weeks ago, his recent dip in the polls has to do with infighting with the GOP and even his lack of confidence in making it this far this the race.

People thought Goldwater would lead to the death of the old GOP and their eventual swing to the left. Instead he was the philosophical father of Regan and both Bushes.

He was winning by a couple points for a few days last month. That was when the Republicans were all bending knee and endorsing him while Bernie just finished a string of wins in primaries that made it look like he might be able to pull it out to people who didn't realize it had been over since Super Tuesday.

Meanwhile if there isn't news that makes it look like Bernie has a chance and Trump is being Trump, she's just murdering the orange galoot. Trump's best case scenario is that he makes 2016 as close as 2012 was. Meanwhile Hillary has a good chance of doing better than Obama did in 2008.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
Trump seems to be imploding rapidly, his campaign's broke even though he spent as much of the money paying himself for services provided to his campaign as possible, he's losing staff, and lots of the people who bought his hats are beginning to get second thoughts.

I'm not happy with Hillary, but I'll take what we can get and cross my fingers she uses her powers to be a good witch and not a bad witch.

mastajake
Oct 3, 2005

My blade is unBENDING!

Mr. Fowl posted:

He's already said he'd like to be referred to as the First Dude.

A '90's man, through and through.

IRQ
Sep 9, 2001

SUCK A DICK, DUMBSHITS!

Gyges posted:

He was winning by a couple points for a few days last month. That was when the Republicans were all bending knee and endorsing him while Bernie just finished a string of wins in primaries that made it look like he might be able to pull it out to people who didn't realize it had been over since Super Tuesday.

Meanwhile if there isn't news that makes it look like Bernie has a chance and Trump is being Trump, she's just murdering the orange galoot. Trump's best case scenario is that he makes 2016 as close as 2012 was. Meanwhile Hillary has a good chance of doing better than Obama did in 2008.

His campaign organization is a-shambles, has no money, is being disavowed by prominent republicans all over the place, and yet he's polling close to or in outlying polls ahead of Clinton.

So where's the problem? He's doing just loving fine. And that is the most terrifying thing in the world.

But right now we can still say that nothing means much. Trump will get a boost after the convention and his VP choice, and so will Clinton. That's when it's time to really start making GBS threads our pants if he's competitive (he will be). Hillary is such an awful candidate I don't even know how she manages to get out the vote for a deeply uncharismatic establishment corporatist center-right democrat in a year when Bernie Sanders didn't happen, but now he did? I think the polls saying the berniebro contingent who never really knew what socialism or liberalism are will vote Trump or lolbertarian aren't as inaccurate as we'd like to think.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

new episode tonight? i hope so

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Poll numbers are USELESS this early on in. I won't take polls seriously until September at the earliest.

Fellatio del Toro
Mar 21, 2009

Down by an average of 6.7 points isn't really "close" in a presidential election, and he hasn't been ahead of Clinton even in outliers in more than a month. The time Trump was close in the polls was in the period after he clenched the nomination where everyone stopped talking about him and started talking about Clinton v Sanders for a few weeks.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

wait until the first debate

omg its going to be incredible

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

coyo7e posted:

Trump seems to be imploding rapidly, his campaign's broke even though he spent as much of the money paying himself for services provided to his campaign as possible, he's losing staff, and lots of the people who bought his hats are beginning to get second thoughts.

I'm not happy with Hillary, but I'll take what we can get and cross my fingers she uses her powers to be a good witch and not a bad witch.

Trump's campaign was imploding since day one, you can't apply any reasoning to it, because it already defies all logic.

His campaign going broke despite his entire gimmick being that he's supposedly a fabulously wealthy businessman totally fits Trump's MO though.

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

SlothfulCobra posted:

Trump's campaign was imploding since day one, you can't apply any reasoning to it, because it already defies all logic.

His campaign going broke despite his entire gimmick being that he's supposedly a fabulously wealthy businessman totally fits Trump's MO though.

Considering that apparently a large portion of Trump's net worth is based on the valuation of his "brand", it's not really surprising. You can't spend brand money.

Honestly the only good investment Trump has ever made is in the PR company that convinced everyone he's a successful businessman.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Nostalgia4Butts posted:

wait until the first debate

omg its going to be incredible

You're assuming there will be one and that Trump won't make up some bullshit reason to not show up.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

IRQ posted:

His campaign organization is a-shambles, has no money, is being disavowed by prominent republicans all over the place, and yet he's polling close to or in outlying polls ahead of Clinton.

So where's the problem? He's doing just loving fine. And that is the most terrifying thing in the world.

But right now we can still say that nothing means much. Trump will get a boost after the convention and his VP choice, and so will Clinton. That's when it's time to really start making GBS threads our pants if he's competitive (he will be). Hillary is such an awful candidate I don't even know how she manages to get out the vote for a deeply uncharismatic establishment corporatist center-right democrat in a year when Bernie Sanders didn't happen, but now he did? I think the polls saying the berniebro contingent who never really knew what socialism or liberalism are will vote Trump or lolbertarian aren't as inaccurate as we'd like to think.

Trump is getting more blown out that McCain or Romney were at this point. The dumpster fire that is the Trump campaign can compete in the clown car that is the Republican primary by simply saying the worst things possible, but that's not a winning strategy in the general. Additionally, Trump's complete lack of a campaign infrastructure is going to be going up against the voltronic merger of the Obama and Clinton machines.

But lets say that Trump is fantastic and his campaign is huge. Let's say that he does 5% better than Romney across the board. How hosed is Hillary then? Not hosed at all. She still gets 272 Electoral College votes and wins the election.

As for Bernie voters, they like Hillary by a way higher margin than Hillary voters like Obama in 2008. The ones that don't show up in November and vote Hillary were almost certainly not going to show up and vote for Bernie anyway. They'll bitch and moan, gnash their teeth, and wail about the corporate whore warmonger, but they'll come around and vote against the human cheeto.

Hillary is gonna stomp Trump. Gonna turn him into an historic example of getting destroyed in a Presidential election. The Supreme Court is going to have between 5 and 7 liberal justices by the time she's done and all the regulatory agencies and enforcement departments of the US Government will be under Democratic control for 12-16 years, cementing EPA, DOJ, Labor, and Immigration changes done by Obama and Clinton.

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Babe Magnet
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