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wdarkk posted:It's the lane lines, you're fighting in a really big swimming pool. 
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and no mods installed because we know with the update everything breaks so no idea wtf that was about.
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So is the Sims/Yubari deal already over, not on the NA server, or something else? Was looking for it earlier, both signed in and not, and was not seeing it.
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Jun 26, 2016 05:30
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JuffoWup posted:Does it come with a funky skill like aa alert or smoke? No list of torps, so that isn't an option either. Pre-nerf yamato heal? It jumps. 
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JuffoWup posted:Comparing to the stats, it really looks like a worse new mexico. What is this bring to the tier 6 table that the new mex doesn't already do? Slower reload, lower ap damage (even though it uses the same shell????), lower shell velocity on both shells (same shells as the new mex as well). Same secondary count, but lowered aa emplacements. Even the rudder shift is slower and it has a weaker torpedo belt. The only thing it has over the new mex in stats is increased hp and perhaps a better armor layout since it is 25-343 compared to the newmex at 15-343. It has a different name. Boats is pretty much the ideal wargaming game for that reason, many people will buy a premium boat just for the name/flag/paint job. (it doesn't hurt that something like half of their premiums are outright superior to regular tree ships, but people would buy them regardless)
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50 dollars for a loving atago or tirpitz just makes me laugh and laugh. You could buy an actual good game for that money.
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Jun 26, 2016 06:50
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Vengarr posted:50 dollars for a loving atago or tirpitz just makes me laugh and laugh. You could buy an actual good game for that money. Never underestimate the ability or willingness for terrible players to buy a slightly better thing in a game, only to throw away even that tiny advantage by being bad.
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Jun 26, 2016 08:57
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Speaking of glaring oversights in the game, I'd pay  for Cap Trafalgar and Carmania as tier 2 cruisers.(I just love the fact that two luxury liners fought to the death once.) edit: can you still buy Texas? it shows as purchasable in-game but isn't in the store, so I'm not sure. But $24 to have a ship I've actually touched? TTLY worth it if I get drunk enough. 
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Jun 26, 2016 09:14
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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Vengarr posted:50 dollars for a loving atago or tirpitz just makes me laugh and laugh. You could buy an actual good game for that money. The Tirpitz originally came out at like 90$ and a bunch of people just 
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Jun 26, 2016 13:12
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 Oh my god this battle was so close. About halfway through, all our DDs and some of our screens were gone, and the enemy had all three caps. Me, a Kongo, and a Cleveland proceeded to gently caress up the entire rest of the enemy team, it was so amazing. The Cleveland especially had less than 10 hitpoints left at the end, and I managed to win three close range duels in a row with two Kongos and a New Mexico. We somehow managed to keep resetting their points gauge by getting kills at the perfect time and then managed to cap them out 1000-989. 
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Jun 26, 2016 13:35
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The gimmick is that the Arizona is famous and as such Americans will line up around the block to throw  at wargaming so they can have one.
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Lord Koth posted:So is the Sims/Yubari deal already over, not on the NA server, or something else? Was looking for it earlier, both signed in and not, and was not seeing it. Starts the 26th, so you were just a little early. I see it right now in the shop.
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Jun 26, 2016 16:32
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I saw an Arizona in game yesterday, person playing it seemed to like it. Also the red turrets look neat.
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That'd be a supertester I believe, I think they, or some of them, get to keep testing new premium ships on live before they become available to the general public.
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ranbo das posted:The gimmick is that the Arizona is famous and as such Americans will line up around the block to throw When a carrier sinks an Arizona it should form a new cap point and you can hold it to get points from tourism.
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Jun 26, 2016 18:59
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The gimmick of the Arizona is that if you get Detonated you get 100 flags instead of 10.
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Why is the Arizona so famous? From a pure gameplay point of view the New Mexico is a very solid ship so it makes sense to make a premium variant of it.
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Krogort posted:Why is the Arizona so famous? As far as I know, its one of the ships that were sunk in pearl Harbor. Its also the one which has a memorial on top.
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Krogort posted:Why is the Arizona so famous? because 
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Krogort posted:Why is the Arizona so famous? It took a bomb hit to the forward magazine during the attack on Pearl Harbor, and sank with 1100 of its crew. Indianapolis is famous because it carried the two atomic bombs to the launch site, and on its return was sunk by a submarine with heavy loss of life. Atlanta was crushed during the 3rd battle of Savo Island because it was the lead ship in the cruiser line, in the clusterfuck known as the Guadalcanal Cammpaign. Sims was utterly pasted by two entire Japanese carrier air wings after they went looking for the Lexington and Yorktown at the Battle of the Coral Sea, and could only find Sims and the tanker she was escorting. Mikasa was the Imperial Japanese flagship at the Battle of Tsushima. Warspite fought just about everywhere you could imagine, in two wars. That's about all for fame in the premiums. There are more famous ships at the bottom of the ocean, than there are those that fought and lived and fought again. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Jun 26, 2016 |
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NTRabbit posted:Bit that got edited out before I could quote about famous ships on the bottom. Poor Yorktown.
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^ Added it back for youxthetenth posted:Poor Yorktown. She fought hard and died young, but the damage control lessons her crew spread out to the US fleet saved a lot of lives on the Enterprise, and the Essex class carriers in the next few years. In an ideal world she would never have been at Midway, but with Lexington gone, Saratoga in dry dock, and Ranger and Wasp in the Atlantic, it had to be. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Jun 26, 2016 |
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Jun 26, 2016 22:49
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I have a suspicion that Enterprise might hold the all-time historical record for most enemy vessels sunk by a single warship. 71 ships feels like a hell of a lot?
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Vengarr posted:I have a suspicion that Enterprise might hold the all-time historical record for most enemy vessels sunk by a single warship. 71 ships feels like a hell of a lot? There are some U-boats with higher confirmed sinkings, but that includes vast numbers of merchantmen
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NTRabbit posted:^ Added it back for you Why?
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Dalael posted:Why? I'd agree, the patches were enough to make her combat worthy and every deck made a big difference, especially the best carrier in the fleet. Sure her air wing was a hodgepodge mess with fighters that were literally only ready the evening before, but they were a hell of a lot more useful than the mess the Hornet put up. If that was a question rather than a disagreement, the reason was that the Yorktown took a bomb hit and a near miss that left her streaming oil, and her air wing had been torn up badly at Coral Sea. They basically had a fighter squadron that was Jimmy Thach, and a roughly 1:1 mix of new guys and Coral Sea vets, and the XO who Thach was counting on to help take care of training took a propeller to the head in a landing accident the day they left Pearl. Their bombing and scouting squadrons were a similar mess, with the bombing squadron being a hastily redesignated scouting squadron. However, they had an experienced captain and crew, it turned out that Jimmy Thach and some new guys was good enough to take a lot of CAP off the torpedo planes at least a little bit, and they were the only ones who had worked out to launch the planes in reverse order of speed so they showed up as a group and had a good plan for finding the enemy fleet. Meanwhile Hornet put one torpedo bomber squadron in unescorted, one fighter squadron that didn't have enough fuel or a simple enough plan to contribute meaningfully (and wound up ditching because their navigation was a mess), and a big old dive bomber wing that didn't actually make contact with the enemy. Gold Star!
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^ All of that If Lexington and Wasp had been available, she would not have fought, or at the most would have been in reserve. Yorktown still managed to have all of the bright sparks that figured out the best way to do just about everything for US carriers. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Jun 26, 2016 |
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Yorktown took a pretty bad pasting at the Battle of the Coral Sea. Not as bad as the Lexington, obviously, but she was operating nowhere near full capacity when the assault on Midway was figured out. So they rush-jobbed her out of drydock at Pearl and sent her up.
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xthetenth posted:I'd agree, the patches were enough to make her combat worthy and every deck made a big difference, especially the best carrier in the fleet. Sure her air wing was a hodgepodge mess with fighters that were literally only ready the evening before, but they were a hell of a lot more useful than the mess the Hornet put up. It was a question, not a disagreement. Thanks for the explanation! I guess those guys were in a very bad situation and made the best of it. The guy who took a propeller to the head.. Did he survive?
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Dalael posted:It was a question, not a disagreement. Thanks for the explanation! I guess those guys were in a very bad situation and made the best of it. No, no he didn't. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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Jun 27, 2016 00:01
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How much is the Yubari worth if you sell it?
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NTRabbit posted:No, no he didn't. yea... figured as much. Thought i'd ask because some people have survived crazy things.
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Midway was when the US first started running low on carriers - they had Enterprise and Hornet, Yorktown was badly damaged at Coral Sea, Lexington was sunk at Coral Sea, Saratoga was just coming out of dry dock after being torpedoed at Wake Island, and Ranger and Wasp were both in the Atlantic, Ranger having been deemed not up to fighting in the Pacific. Yorktown went down at Midway, Wasp was moved to the Pacific and was then sunk only 4 months later at Guadalcanal, and Hornet went down only a month after that at the Santa Cruz Islands, things got real tight for a while, until the new Essex was rushed into service in mid 1943, and then a holy poo poo number of Essex class carriers followed her in rapid succession.
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jownzy posted:How much is the Yubari worth if you sell it? It doesn't seem completely terrible now.
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Sure, it has lazer accurate guns, the mod doesn't fix the reload. It doesn't fix the fact that you are not much different than an ognevoi. Except, you bonused into being a tier 4 instead of a tier 6. And as a penalty, are classed as a cruiser with all the camo and torpedo arcs of one. Oh, and unlike the ognevoi, you don't get offensive smoke or a get out of here nos button. Instead, you get the ability to annoy tier 5 & 6 carriers (if you get matched with one) and completely rip up tier 4 carriers. However, as said, good luck on matching with carriers because the game's ui does everything it can to stab a middle finger at carrier pilots (and that isn't counting the hilarious description on how aa is some giant formula that ends with a yes or no answer for a plane death) making them look for other ship types to play. I'm saying this from a guy that bought the triple pack pre-order. So I've seen it in all its forms. It can have great games, but more often, you are going to find yourself hating it immensely. The sims is a solid US premium DD. Mainly because it is the only one. The sims has experienced several buffs since launch as well btw. It used to only have the 5.5km torps. After much whining from the public, it got the slow 10km ones. Then later, it was also graced with the option for the AA alert skill in place of nos. Interestingly, I've been running that on my US DDs and having actually found it mildly useful. Carriers really don't know what to do when their dive bombers panic and miss you completely. I actually covered a mutsuki in a game yesterday with it and the carrier missed on him as well even though the boat was barely moving.
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Another case of hiding valuable info from the player. Why the gently caress do you have to memorize the AA value and ability/no ability of every ship in the game? Maybe you could communicate that to the player in-game instead? How about a voice clip that plays, like "We're getting shot to poo poo!" when my planes enter an AA Death Forcefield? Why do you have to install a mod to see where smoke screens are laid? Why do you need a mod to tell you whether the opposing ship has hit the brakes, or is going backward?
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Vengarr posted:50 dollars for a loving atago or tirpitz just makes me laugh and laugh. You could buy an actual good game for that money. To be fair, getting one of those two is arguably worth it if you play the game a hell of a lot because they're insane money-printers that you get to keep permanently. CitizenKain posted:I saw an Arizona in game yesterday, person playing it seemed to like it. Also the red turrets look neat. They make for good targetting spots for dive-bombers. 
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JuffoWup posted:Sure, it has lazer accurate guns, the mod doesn't fix the reload. It doesn't fix the fact that you are not much different than an ognevoi. Except, you bonused into being a tier 4 instead of a tier 6. And as a penalty, are classed as a cruiser with all the camo and torpedo arcs of one. Oh, and unlike the ognevoi, you don't get offensive smoke or a get out of here nos button. Instead, you get the ability to annoy tier 5 & 6 carriers (if you get matched with one) and completely rip up tier 4 carriers. However, as said, good luck on matching with carriers because the game's ui does everything it can to stab a middle finger at carrier pilots (and that isn't counting the hilarious description on how aa is some giant formula that ends with a yes or no answer for a plane death) making them look for other ship types to play. Well I did imply that it's still terrible. Just not completely.  I bought the Gremy pre-order and I really don't miss the other two. Magni posted:They make for good targetting spots for dive-bombers. Good luck getting your divebombers to hit a specific spot on a battleship. You should be happy if the majority of their bombs actually hit.
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So who has the best cruisers between Germany and Russia? Last I played Germany line was just starting and at teir 4 I like how they're shaping up. I love the Aoba but it's a bit fragile for my play habbits. Cleveland bores me.
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Vengarr posted:Another case of hiding valuable info from the player. Why the gently caress do you have to memorize the AA value and ability/no ability of every ship in the game? Maybe you could communicate that to the player in-game instead? How about a voice clip that plays, like "We're getting shot to poo poo!" when my planes enter an AA Death Forcefield? These all seem like things you just pick up by playing.  You do know you can watch the smoke trails to see which way a ship is moving, and given enough time and practice, you can hit targets pretty far out once you get a feel for just how fast they tend to move. Hell, sometimes I even manage to land a shell at 20km, or at least splash all around whatever I was aiming at.DiHK posted:So who has the best cruisers between Germany and Russia? I can't speak for Russian cruisers, but the tier 5 German cruiser is AMAZING. You just have to accept the whole "no armor' thing and stop giving fucks. Seriously, give no fucks. Just accept the fact that you're gonna die and focus on dealing as much damage as possible within the time God has given you, and it can accomplish some amazing things.
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