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ErIog posted:Umm.. I tried to come up with a non-poo poo-post way to say this, but I couldn't so here goes.. "lol, wtf, why?" The yard signs, mostly.
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Pollyanna posted:I really hope Brexit just totally wrecks Trump's chances. It basically supported the same positions as him and now the UK's economy has tanked. It won't move the needle either way, because we don't care about foreigners. However it's hilarious how he said "Brexit is great!" the day before the vote, only for the world economy to lose its poo poo the second the results were announced.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 14:12 |
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sean10mm posted:It won't move the needle either way, because we don't care about foreigners. I just really, really want Trump to lose, and Brexit is scaring me that he won't.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 14:17 |
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Pollyanna posted:I just really, really want Trump to lose, and Brexit is scaring me that he won't. Why do people keep saying this? The situations are completely different, the main difference being we have way more non-white people in America who aren't going to "protest vote" for Trump. I can't think of a more apples to oranges comparison.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 14:23 |
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sean10mm posted:It won't move the needle either way, because we don't care about foreigners. Well, we did get a lot of morons crowing about Britain fulfilling their fantasies of secession, but after the effects began, nothing. Since we don't care about foreigners or nuance, I'm sure that the fallout will be easy enough to blame on whoever's in charge at the moment here. Or it would be if Trump were at all that canny.
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Demon Of The Fall posted:Seeing Nazis getting brained by 2x4s is cool and good
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 14:56 |
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https://twitter.com/SCOTUSblog/status/747430730670678016
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:07 |
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Good. gently caress off Texas.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:09 |
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Scalia is rolling in his grave. and it's loving great. Praise be to Scalia being dead.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:11 |
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Yay Scalia's still dead!
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:11 |
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Ready to drink tears
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:11 |
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Amazing news. gently caress you, Texas.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:12 |
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Actually it was a 5-3 decision. Scalia wouldn't have even turned it. But still gently caress Scalia.
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Dexo posted:Actually it was a 5-3 decision. Scalia wouldn't have even turned it. Probably. It's possible he could have convinced kennedy the other way.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:14 |
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Wait how the hell were there 4 dissents? If only 3 voted against. Did Scalia write a dissent from beyond the grave?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:18 |
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Ready to drink tears Look no further than the dissents, friend. From ScotusBlog: quote:Both dissents go to unusual lengths to accuse the majority of bending the rules because this is an abortion case. Alito posted:The Court’s patent refusal to apply well-established law in a neutral way is indefensible and will undermine public confidence in the Court as a fair and neutral arbiter. Thomas posted:[Today's] decision exemplifies the Court’s troubling tendency “to bend the rules when any effort to limit abortion, or even to speak in opposition to abortion, is at issue.” Stenberg v. Carhart, 530 U. S. 914, 954 (2000) (Scalia, J., dissenting).
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:19 |
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Hahahaha, gently caress you Texas. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friend...to-the-rapture/ quote:It wasn’t until the McIntyres’ 17-year-old daughter Tori ran away from home so she could “attend school” that the family was more closely scrutinized. When Tori’s high school needed to know her level of education and what curriculum she had used so they could properly place her, administrators contacted her parents, who refused to cooperate. They argued that a previous Supreme Court ruling let them off the hook from compulsory, regulated education for their children beyond eighth grade. God drat it Texas
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:21 |
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Dexo posted:Wait how the hell were there 4 dissents?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:21 |
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Anyone have an analysis of the scope of the abortion ruling? Texas wasn't the only state with this ALEC bullshit
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:30 |
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Good Citizen posted:Anyone have an analysis of the scope of the abortion ruling? Texas wasn't the only state with this ALEC bullshit Its basically curtains for any state that tries to pass it as well, as it is, this ruling only applies to Texas, but it sets the legal precedent that any other of these laws will be thrown out of challenged in lower courts.
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Also note that the entire law was tossed out, even though they tried to word it as "if parts of this die the rest is fine and all of it is cool in any other jurisdictions in Texas nya nya nya" and the court basically said gently caress that.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:35 |
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Ugh, looks like Scotus let McDonnell off, and unanimously too. Can't win them all, I guess. e: Actually it doesn't look like he's totally off the hook yet: quote:Governor McDonnell raises two additional claims re constitutionality of honest services statute and Hobbs Act. Court rejects those claims. Also, Governor McDonnell argues that there is insufficient evidence that he committed an official act; the Court does not rule on that question but instead sends it back to the lower courts for reconsideration under the Court's new definition of "official act." sexy fucking muskrat fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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Hopefully this decision is written as broadly as possible to smack down this kind of chicanery before it starts next time. Guess we still need a different case to stop the 18 week nonsense?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:35 |
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Mr Jaunts posted:Ugh, looks like Scotus let McDonnell off, and unanimously too. Can't win them all, I guess. I don't understand how this court is so pro corruption.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:39 |
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Yawgmoft posted:I don't understand how this court is so pro corruption. The short version is: The conservatives don't think that corruption can exist, except as quid pro quo with the exchange of goods. Giving someone $1 million or a fancy car is fine as long as that gift is not explicitly tied to a request for an action. An implicit request is totally fine though. The liberals want a clear standard that prevents state Attorney Generals or Fed's from having to take every corruption case to the Supreme Court for each individual circumstance. McDonnell getting another shot to get off is the price we have to pay to establish clear rules. They would rather lean on the side of allowing murky behavior if it means that there is a clear standard of conduct for elected officials and prosecutors. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Thomas wrote one. Thomas also joined Alito's (along with Roberts joining.) Thomas really isn't happy about this. Alito's Dissent featuring Thomas, and Scalia even gets some bars posthumously.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:45 |
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Tim Kaine admits what we're all thinking, is still top of Hillary's VP list. Tim Kaine posted:But boring is the fastest-growing demographic in this country quite the burn on the american populace from mr. boredome
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 15:52 |
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Yawgmoft posted:I don't understand how this court is so pro corruption.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 16:18 |
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Pretty excited to see how Trump reacts to this. A traditional GOP candidate would throw on his hair shirt and and gnash his teeth about the big mean activist judges and say a whole bunch of pro life shibboleths. Who knows what Trump's gonna say. Also, it's been a real bad year for social/movement conservatives so far huh.
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FlamingLiberal posted:
Huzanko fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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zoux posted:Also, it's been a real bad year for social/movement conservatives so far huh. gently caress 'em
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 16:40 |
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paranoid randroid posted:gently caress 'em I hope their extremely hurt feelings don't make them too sad to ever participate in the political process ever again, personally.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 16:46 |
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Yawgmoft posted:Hopefully this decision is written as broadly as possible to smack down this kind of chicanery before it starts next time. The opinion specifically states that these requirements were unconstitutional because they deny women access to a "previability abortion," which means the court is going to stick to viability as the cutoff for abortion. Claims of "fetal pain" or whatever don't look like they'll fly. Edit: Reading the abortion decision and found my favorite quote - "JUSTICE ALITO’s dissenting opinion is simply wrong" Wicked Them Beats fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Jun 27, 2016 |
# ? Jun 27, 2016 16:48 |
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So, obviously this is garbage: http://hiddenamericans.com/politics/un-official-found-dead-was-set-to-testify-against-hillary-clinton-same-day-barbell-fell-on-his-neck/ But I'm looking for the easily counterable parts of it. Trying to research the person who died is difficult because it's far-right conspiracy, but I'm guessing at least he wasn't actually testifying against Clinton? Anyone understand the connection attempting to be made more than me?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 16:53 |
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Agreed, Roberts is in the pocket of the Obama administration.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 16:55 |
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theflyingorc posted:So, obviously this is garbage: It's patently false. UN officials wouldn't testify against Hillary because they're both working to advance Agenda 21 and enact the NWO.
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 16:56 |
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theflyingorc posted:So, obviously this is garbage: Why do you think facts or rational analysis of it will make any difference?
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 16:57 |
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Deteriorata posted:Why do you think facts or rational analysis of it will make any difference? Because the person who posted it is a friend I care about who has enough respect for me that I can probably actually get him to back down on this specific conspiracy theory. I did more research, the "He was going to testify against CLINTON!" part is blatantly false. The connection being made is that Ashe is accused of taking bribes from Ng Lap Seng, who was accused of illegal fundraising for the Democratic party in the 90s. However, his current situation has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the Clintons. Even if we pretend that the Clintons were masterminding Seng in the 90s to get what they wanted, party A and party B being bribed by the same person wouldn't give party A reason to kill party B!
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# ? Jun 27, 2016 17:12 |
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So if Trump is smart, this is his way to the top of the polls. He just has to say "If you elect Hillary, these abortion cases are only going to get further and further from banning abortion." Trump cannot win on his charisma or his intelligence or his character or his wit or his policies, so he should try to run as "at least I'll put a right wing wacko in SCOTUS that will ban abortion"
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pathetic little tramp posted:So if Trump is smart, this is his way to the top of the polls. He just has to say "If you elect Hillary, these abortion cases are only going to get further and further from banning abortion." Yes, alienating women even more, THIS is truly the electoral strategy that will lead to a Trump victory.
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