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Slate Action posted:Four boxes suggests Texas might not be 4-4, since if it was it would be a single page, yes? I'm more worried about who will be writing it. But who knows.
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Domestic abusers can't own firearms in accordance with federal law Want to read the Thomas dissent
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Slate Action posted:TEXAS LOSES gently caress yes!
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Thank loving god. Maybe it'll be in time to actually make a difference, I know a lot have closed already but...
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"Ginsburg concurs" are two of the sweetest words in the English language
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exploding mummy posted:Breyer has abortion. 5th reversed I'd say he performed it.
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Thomas dissents, Alito dissents, joined by Roberts and Thomas "Second holding: Both the admitting privileges and surgical center requirements place a substantial obstacle in the path of women seeking a previability abortion, constitute an undue burden on abortion access, and thus violate the Constitution."
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Kennedy finally finds an abortion restriction that he doesn't give the benefit of the doubt to
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Slate Action posted:TEXAS LOSES  some good news as I watch the DJI today
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Slate Action posted:Thomas dissents, Alito dissents, joined by Roberts and Thomas How do we have 4 dissents if its 5-3?
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From the summary (and who wrote it) it appears the Texas decision was a complete win on all counts.
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BiohazrD posted:How do we have 4 dissents if its 5-3? Thomas dissented, *and* joined Alito's dissent. He really dissented.
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BiohazrD posted:How do we have 4 dissents if its 5-3? Thomas both wrote his own dissent and joined another's dissent.
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Slate Action posted:TEXAS LOSES I don't think there's a single person surprised by this
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mastershakeman posted:I don't think there's a single person surprised by this You're kidding, right? Everyone was expecting a 4-4 lower court wins texas wins everything is horrible.
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AtraMorS posted:Thomas both wrote his own dissent and joined another's dissent. Derp, should have noticed his name twice
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Ginsburg's concurrence is two pages and is basically 'abortion is one of the safest medical procedures around, cockgoblins, we all know what you fuckers were up to'
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Slate Action posted:TEXAS LOSES AND TEXANS WIN
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I'm digging the Thomas dissent in Voisine. He's talking about plate throwing texting dads.
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"Both dissents go to unusual lengths to accuse the majority of bending the rules because this is an abortion case." Alito: "The Courts patent refusal to apply well-established law in a neutral way is indefensible and will undermine public confidence in the Court as a fair and neutral arbiter."
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I guess Roberts is writing McDonnell
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exploding mummy posted:I guess Roberts is writing McDonnell "there is no such thing as corruption, case dismissed"
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Slate Action posted:TEXAS LOSES
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evilweasel posted:"there is no such thing as corruption, case dismissed" Yeah, we can't have good news without something kicking us in the guts
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evilweasel posted:oddly alito's dissent is entirely about procedure from what I've read, he doesn't ever really say that the laws are constitutional From SCOTUSblog: "Only Thomas would have upheld the statutes. Roberts and Alito would have remanded for additional findings." This is significant bc it suggests that Roberts and Alito may be willing to regard some abortion case law as essentially settles for stare decisis purposes. Interesting...
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evilweasel posted:From the summary (and who wrote it) it appears the Texas decision was a complete win on all counts. In the discussion on severability states the provisions "vastly increase the obstacles confronting women seeking abortions in Texas without providing any benefit to women's health capable of withstanding any meaningful scrutiny". Then goes on to reiterate that viability controls when abortion can be limited, which should help in smacking down "fetal pain" bullshit laws.
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"RBG's concurrence is all of two pages. The money line: "Texas argues that H.B.2s restrictions are constitutional because they protect the health of women who experience complications from abortions. In truth, 'complications from an abortion are both rare and rarely dangerous.'""
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Gorilla Desperado posted:From SCOTUSblog: "Only Thomas would have upheld the statutes. Roberts and Alito would have remanded for additional findings." This is significant bc it suggests that Roberts and Alito may be willing to regard some abortion case law as essentially settles for stare decisis purposes. That commenter is overly optimistic. I think it's more likely that Roberts and Alito were trying to swing Kennedy and so they were drafting an opinion he could sign onto because they know he's not going to go to full repeal of Roe v. Wade. Fortunately it failed.
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One thing that strikes me about the Texas case: Texas put in a laundry list of regulations and a severability clause that was as strong as you could get - saying, for example, that if the regulations were an undue burden in one part of Texas that area should be severed and they should apply elsewhere. This would create a morass of regulation that would be very difficult to untangle and would be blamed on the courts. As a result, the majority simply invalidated the entire law, and Alito is pissed about them not playing along. I think thats the right move here as trying to play along with Texas's severability clause (which literally says every word not held unconstitutional is severable from the others) would have been impractical and created so much confusion Texas would get through the back door what it couldn't through the front.
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evilweasel posted:That commenter is overly optimistic. I think it's more likely that Roberts and Alito were trying to swing Kennedy and so they were drafting an opinion he could sign onto because they know he's not going to go to full repeal of Roe v. Wade. Fortunately it failed. Yeah, can totally see that. Much as I'm not a Kennedy fan, he's not total bullcrap on this one, thankfully.
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evilweasel posted:That commenter is overly optimistic. I think it's more likely that Roberts and Alito were trying to swing Kennedy and so they were drafting an opinion he could sign onto because they know he's not going to go to full repeal of Roe v. Wade. Fortunately it failed. As someone else noted, some and may were working pretty hard for that commentator.
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exploding mummy posted:Breyer has abortion. 5th reversed SCOTUS Thread 2016: Breyer has abortion
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