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Doubling down on a "white as hell" strategy is Trump's only moonshot chance to win the thing. It's inefficient and weird (see: dumb), but there is a method to the madness I think
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Mirthless posted:Yeah, Trump is so vulnerable in some of the GOP stronghold states, winning AZ may be a long shot for her but if she campaigns there she forces him to spend money defending the state, and considering her fundraising advantage and the size of her ground game she can afford to do it. I really hope we start seeing her campaigning in these places. This was a big hidden bonus of having Obama do a 50 state campaign in 2008. There's value in going to states you don't typically expect to win so you can get the local party excited and introduce some up and comer on stage with you. Part of the reason why the Republican party in California is such a piece of poo poo (other than demographics) is because it's never relevant so the Presidential campaigns don't have events and don't combine forces on the ad buys to help out the local politicians. It's noteworthy that the last Republican governor the state had was famous and had name recognition.
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Jun 27, 2016 19:48
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Pook Good Mook posted:Ha. You really can't see why Trump can't win? Did Wasserman care to notice that Maine elects governors on non-Presidential election years/ also worth noting that many solidly Democratic states still routinely elect republicans into governor's offices because wealthy white people still want to minimize their tax burden, the Democrats just look to the state to shoulder the weight instead of The State
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Jun 27, 2016 19:48
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Schnorkles posted:there is a method to the madness I think with trump im not so sure
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Jun 27, 2016 19:50
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HappyHippo posted:with trump im not so sure Well, typically, candidates doing things like this mean that they have internal polling that puts the state within range. Trump has no internal polling other than NY (  Duchess!! ) so yeah, there may not be a method to the madness.Also: news people going "  HILLARY ISN'T SPENDING ANY MONEY IN PENNSYLVANIA, SHE'S GOIGN TO GET CREAMED!!1!" handily ignores that they probably have pennsylvania polled up down and sidewise and are likely not worried in the slightest.
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Jun 27, 2016 19:56
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Schnorkles posted:Also: news people going " One of Hillary's PACs announced a $10.5 million ad buy in PA last week.
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Jun 27, 2016 19:59
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Slate Action posted:One of Hillary's PACs announced a $10.5 million ad buy in PA last week. There's that too.
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Jun 27, 2016 19:59
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Well there's certainly some madness, probably meth, and an OD wouldn't shock anyone.
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Jun 27, 2016 19:59
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Rocks posted:Bangor, hardly knew' er! Trump's entire campaign has been spent doing things he shouldn't do, why start being responsible now?
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Jun 27, 2016 20:00
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Rocks posted:But seriously why is Trump spending time in Maine. Shouldn't he be out in like Ohio, Pennsylvania or Florida...?  maybe he doesn't want to win
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Jun 27, 2016 20:00
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Mirthless posted:Representatives from the white house shouldn't go on record as directly blaming a terrorist attack on somebody exercising their freedom of speech. It was a boneheaded thing for her to say, especially given she was going to be running for president in four years. Freedom of speech doesn't mean you are guaranteed no negative repercussions if you exercise it, you have the right to do something stupid and inflammatory and people, including the government are free to call it stupid and inflammatory and it's just fine as long as they don't actually stop you.
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Jun 27, 2016 20:01
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Cael posted:
Uh, excuse me, America doesn't want to win.
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Jun 27, 2016 20:01
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*leans back in chair and cracks a smile up at the sky* ah i fuckin love it when my candidate's PAC drops 10.5 million on ad buys in pennsylvania
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Jun 27, 2016 20:02
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Well there's a couple states that, if Trump does not win, he has no path to victory. It's just that Trump is so far ahead of us all that he realizes that it all comes down to Maine for him. Clinton and her PACs keep announcing 8 figure ad buys, has Trump bought any time yet? The whole "only slots available to him by the time he starts campaigning will be at 2am on HGTV" joke may be true
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Jun 27, 2016 20:04
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Epic High Five posted:Well there's a couple states that, if Trump does not win, he has no path to victory. News media is free, which is his whole strategy so far
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Jun 27, 2016 20:06
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Mirthless posted:Yeah, Trump is so vulnerable in some of the GOP stronghold states, winning AZ may be a long shot for her but if she campaigns there she forces him to spend money defending the state, and considering her fundraising advantage and the size of her ground game she can afford to do it. I really hope we start seeing her campaigning in these places. also bc of the senate race in AZ where McCain is looking very weak... I wouldn't be surprised to see her focus on it more than otherwise for that reason
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Jun 27, 2016 20:06
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Epic High Five posted:Well there's a couple states that, if Trump does not win, he has no path to victory. As far as I can tell, Rebuilding America PAC has bought $1.1M in ads to support their candidate, while the Trump campaign itself has not purchased any. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/08/us/politics/super-pac-supporting-donald-trump-makes-first-ad-buy-for-general-election.html I could not find anything later than that.
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Jun 27, 2016 20:10
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John Kasich says he's hasn't been asked and doesn't expect to speak at the convention. The convention is being held in the state where he is currently Governor.
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Jun 27, 2016 20:12
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Epic High Five posted:Well there's a couple states that, if Trump does not win, he has no path to victory. https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/744492469589446656
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Jun 27, 2016 20:12
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Joementum posted:John Kasich says he's hasn't been asked and doesn't expect to speak at the convention. "Did you see him? He has the news conference all the time when he's eating. I have never seen a human being eat in such a disgusting fashion," Trump, 69, told his supporters. "I'm always telling my young son Barron, I’m saying — and I always do it with my kids ... I would say, 'Children, small little bites. Small.' This guy takes a pancake and he's shoving it in his mouth. It's disgusting."
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Jun 27, 2016 20:13
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Mirthless posted:Representatives from the white house shouldn't go on record as directly blaming a terrorist attack on somebody exercising their freedom of speech. It was a boneheaded thing for her to say, especially given she was going to be running for president in four years. What should they have done instead, then? Just throw up their arms and go 'idk lol those crazy muslims just can't predict 'em sometimes'
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Jun 27, 2016 20:14
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Joementum posted:John Kasich says he's hasn't been asked and doesn't expect to speak at the convention. How dead us the gop and when will it's reincarnation be nationally relevant
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Necc0 posted:What should they have done instead, then? Just throw up their arms and go 'idk lol those crazy muslims just can't predict 'em sometimes' Considering the GOP only likes to remind the public of the last part of that particular sentence, yes.
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Jun 27, 2016 20:17
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Three Olives posted:Freedom of speech doesn't mean you are guaranteed no negative repercussions if you exercise it, you have the right to do something stupid and inflammatory and people, including the government are free to call it stupid and inflammatory and it's just fine as long as they don't actually stop you. Dylan Roof shot a bunch of people, it wasn't his heavily dogeared copy of the Turner Diaries. The video was worth mentioning in the context of the greater discussion but it wasn't a reason for anything, just an excuse, and even that turned out to be inaccurate. Blaming the video also gave the GOP carte blanche to play the "the white house won't say radical islamic terrorism" card for the next four years. It was a boneheaded move!
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Jun 27, 2016 20:17
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Joementum posted:John Kasich says he's hasn't been asked and doesn't expect to speak at the convention. Party Status: Unified As gently caress
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Jun 27, 2016 20:18
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well at least trump is going to try campaigning in the right country this week.
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Jun 27, 2016 20:19
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Joementum posted:John Kasich says he's hasn't been asked and doesn't expect to speak at the convention. Isn't Kasich quite popular in Ohio? Great plan, Donald. 
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Jun 27, 2016 20:20
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Joementum posted:This election is cool and good. legit question: if warren becomes VP, is there ANY chance Baker picks Brown to serve as interim Senator? might this be a false flag to try to convince Hillary to pick the VP that gets under Trump's skin??
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Jun 27, 2016 20:20
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thethreeman posted:legit question: if warren becomes VP, is there ANY chance Baker picks Brown to serve as interim Senator? Scott Brown probably doesn't think ahead of breakfast much less the election
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Apparently, the convention speaking lineup may not be entirely up to Trump anyway. Although he insists that nobody who hasn't endorsed him will speak, the party rules may just override his decision if the other candidates decide to push it. quote:“If there’s no endorsement, then I would not invite them to speak,” Mr. Trump said in an interview, adding that former rivals like Senator Ted Cruz of Texas and Gov. John Kasich of Ohio should not expect to address the convention if they continue to withhold their support. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/27/us/politics/donald-trump-and-rnc-see-common-foe-rogue-delegates.html So that should be just fine.
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Jun 27, 2016 20:27
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The only reason LePage won (twice) is because the liberals here split themselves between a Dem and a left-leaning independent. He won in 2010 with only 38% of the vote. LePage is hated by pretty much everyone but die-hard Republicans, but those dinks were going to vote (R) all the way down the ballot automatically anyway. Trump has almost nothing to gain by him coming here. But I do.  Oh, and Bangor is in the middle of rural Maine, but is a liberal bastion. The state's biggest university is right up the road. If he's looking for a place to hold a rally with minimal protests, he may leave disappointed.
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Three Olives posted:Freedom of speech doesn't mean you are guaranteed no negative repercussions if you exercise it, you have the right to do something stupid and inflammatory and people, including the government are free to call it stupid and inflammatory and it's just fine as long as they don't actually stop you. Depending how inflammatory it is the gov can stop you from saying it or at least put you in jail for saying it
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thethreeman posted:legit question: if warren becomes VP, is there ANY chance Baker picks Brown to serve as interim Senator?
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Baker is not a stupid person and everyone from here to Freedom knows Brown is a complete waste.
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shiksa posted:Scott Brown probably doesn't think ahead of breakfast much less the election thethreeman posted:legit question: if warren becomes VP, is there ANY chance Baker picks Brown to serve as interim Senator? My understanding is that Scott Brown is from New Hampshire and always has been.
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Jun 27, 2016 20:31
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Defiance posted:Apparently, the convention speaking lineup may not be entirely up to Trump anyway. Although he insists that nobody who hasn't endorsed him will speak, the party rules may just override his decision if the other candidates decide to push it. Well, there's also the issue of finding anyone who wants to speak, or even be there.
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Jun 27, 2016 20:34
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He's from NH, but he spent too much time drinking MA water and now the real New Hampshire mountain people think he's a dirty flatlander. 
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Railing Kill posted:The only reason LePage won (twice) is because the liberals here split themselves between a Dem and a left-leaning independent. He won in 2010 with only 38% of the vote. LePage is hated by pretty much everyone but die-hard Republicans, but those dinks were going to vote (R) all the way down the ballot automatically anyway. Trump has almost nothing to gain by him coming here. Maine has their own Bernie Sanders?
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TheHoosier posted:wasn't there an early debate where donny said he wanted to "close down parts of the internet" as a weapon against terrorism? gently caress it, flood their digital channels with as much anime tits as robert morrow can muster. internet redeemed the best part is when he thought bill gates could do something about it
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Karl Sharks posted:the best part is when he thought bill gates could do something about it Bill Gates is teaming up with McDonalds to give free Big Macs to the first 10,000 people who forward this Trump fundraising e-mail.
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