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Sinestro posted:I agree, fellow non-fascist, it is good that people saying things I disagree with are met with violent reprisal. I think we can meet in the middle and agree that the violence was wrong but it was not a 1st amendment issue whatsoever. Right? Please? Can't we all, as Californians (ok, maybe Oregonian but I live here now), just get along?
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I was responding more to the general tenor of the post, but it is indeed not a first amendment issue. I guess people have just been traumatized by idiot alt-righters saying that poo poo in response to people saying mean things about them on Twitter to where the very mention of it is enough to make people react way too strongly. We do have laws against assault, but I think it's very unlikely that a neo-Nazi will be able to get fair treatment because of the very understandable intensely negative reaction that anyone would have to them. There is nothing that can be said where stabbing people is "meting out an appropriate response".
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BigPaddy posted:Titusville is pretty dead so you will want to have plans for other stuff away from there. Titusville seems quite the place in these reports https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0eqbd16cOBmLm6ROsne1p5NYvLrJya0U
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You're still a criminal if you stab Nazis in the US of A but its not as bad of a crime as stabbing non-nazis.
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SCA Enthusiast posted:You're still a criminal if you stab Nazis in the US of A but its not as bad of a crime as stabbing non-nazis. "Stabbing is Bad, but to be fair, it was stabbing nazis"
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This was more of an organized brawl than a peaceful protest attacked by anarchists. Both sides showed up armed and both sides had people stabbed. It is as much of a 1st amendment issue as a football hooligan fight as far as I can tell.
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Cage posted:I just signed up to stay on a sailboat via Airbnb. The internet is great. 88h88 posted:Sailboat? Noice. I stayed in an old converted barn once, the fob on the key to my room was a cow ear tag. And the advert stated "WE HAVE DOGS, HOPE YOU LIKE DOGS" so I basically spent like 2 hours playing with their idiots dogs one day. Refunded Dirt 3 (arcade), installed Dirt Rally (simulator) and now all is right in the world because I can tear around the woods sideways in an E30 M3 rally car.
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I've commuted on my Xentis 4.2 carbons and to be honest, they have taken the abuse much better than any alloy wheel has. I'm now on the third alloy and this one has had persistent issues of losing spoke tension, the Xentis are still perfect. Besides, riding what make the bike feel nicer means I want to ride more. Even in what passes for loving freezing in Australia
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NitroSpazzz posted:Love AirBNB and we thought about staying in a boat in Pensacola but decided on a condo in the end? I used it all over Germany to stay in some cool places and meet some amazing people on my weekends over there. 
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Ether Frenzy posted:I'm loving ashamed to be a Californian right now because the state education should have taught casual internet constitutional scholars that freedom of speech is not freedom from the repercussions of blurting out your terrible Nazi ideas, and if the private citizenry metes out an appropriate response to your dumb bullshit it has no connection whatsoever to the 1st amendment protections granted under the Bill of Rights to protect individuals from laws passed by the government. Attacking a rally group with loving knives is NOT an appropriate response. Period. End of loving story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Lzzt33R50U It is a first amendment issue. One side was properly permitted and had signs. The other side went without a permit and had knives. The neo-nazis will bring guns next time. Assaulting someone for their ideas is still assault. The "counter-protesters" here were deliberately attacking free speech, free assembly, and free press (they also attacked the press that were there covering the idiots). I'll agree the neo-nazis were idiots, but its still a free speech issue. If you don't want to hear it make a bigger rally on the other side of the park and drown them out. ilkhan fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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ilkhan posted:I'll make sure to remember that political violence is acceptable to you when this results in the same thing at an abortion/LGBT/race rally. Dead Kennedys replied to this 35 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MkRuV0aCcI
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BloodBag posted:The remain crowd crying about how racist and stupid the leave side is reminds me a hell of a lot of they crying when both Gore and Kerry lost to Bush. "Stupid idiots voting against their own self-interest". The pomposity of those same people when Obama won twice was equally galling. You win some, you lose some. But you live, you live to fight another day. -John Witherspoon Friday And a huge number of people have voted against their own self interest. They have been told things that were not true, and then immediately afterwards rescinded. If you try to apply an equivalence to this which relates to things like a simple presidential election, you're missing the sheer scale of the fuckup. If nothing else, every single British person who regularly posts in AI going "Ooooooh poo poo, we're a bit boned here" should tell you something.
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Man it's a straight toss up on which English speaking part of the world is the worst to live in now.
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Rhyno posted:Man it's a straight toss up on which English speaking part of the world is the worst to live in now. Whew, I'm glad those of us in the USA don't enter into that. We speak American here. 
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Rhyno posted:Man it's a straight toss up on which English speaking part of the world is the worst to live in now. Quit playing, it will always be florida.
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meatpimp posted:Whew, I'm glad those of us in the USA don't enter into that. We speak American here. I'm not even sure what word vomit they speak in Australia. Powershift posted:Quit playing, it will always be florida. Truth.
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BloodBag posted:I can't be alone in thinking that with the whole Brexit situation, withFarage being "UK Trump", the media and the left will go far out of their way to paint Brexit as the worst thing that's happened to the UK ever, ever. So they can point to the UK and say "Trump will do that to the US". All while ignoring the decades of graft and corruption and general sleaziness that comes with the Clinton name. I mean the votes were barely finished being counted and the UK already burned down, fell over, and then sank into a swamp according to them. WTF man, it's been like, a hot minute, give it a bit and see how this all plays out. https://theintercept.com/2016/06/25/brexit-is-only-the-latest-proof-of-the-insularity-and-failure-of-western-establishment-institutions/
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ilkhan posted:I'll make sure to remember that political violence is acceptable to you when this results in the same thing at an abortion/LGBT/race rally. I'm sure this is the same principled stand you take when left-leaning protesters are hosed with pepper spray, surrounded on all sides by law enforcement who simultaneously issue an order to disperse and prevent the crowd from dispersing, then arrest everyone for disobeying a lawful order - right? I mean as a constitutional purist you certainly wouldn't handwave that away because its just a bunch of filthy hippies or urban ferals getting what they deserve... Geoj fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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Cage posted:Aw gently caress you, I re-installed and got all my DLC back together because of you. Dirt 3 is great and there is an E30 M3! Steam refunded Dirt 3, Dirt Rally is more of the simulator I was looking for. I saw you post in the iRacing thread...any tips for not being complete poo poo at iRacing? Skippy is the only drat car I can run laps in without spinning. I'll probably start posting over there at some point once I'm not completely poo poo and do some goon races. Need to figure out a basic seat mount asap, sliding/leaning seat isn't helping my lap times at all. Dirt Rally in a nutshell...so punishing I said come in! posted:Dirt Rally is the Dark Souls of racing sims. NitroSpazzz fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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Geoj posted:I'm sure this is the same principled stand you take when left-leaning protesters are hosed with pepper spray, surrounded on all sides by law enforcement who simultaneously issue an order to disperse and prevent the crowd from dispersing, then arrest everyone for disobeying a lawful order - right? You're welcome to remind me of this if I go the other way on a situation like what you mention.
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InitialDave posted:We don't, though. Once out, that's it, you're out. This isn't a mere general election where you can do somethign about it in another few years, this is permanent. And if you thought Brexit was bad, ya'll just lost to some island with 300,000 people and worse weather who barely discovered this "football" thing.
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nm posted:And if you thought Brexit was bad, ya'll just lost to some island with 300,000 people and worse weather who barely discovered this "football" thing.
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NitroSpazzz posted:Steam refunded Dirt 3, Dirt Rally is more of the simulator I was looking for. I saw you post in the iRacing thread...any tips for not being complete poo poo at iRacing? Skippy is the only drat car I can run laps in without spinning. I'll probably start posting over there at some point once I'm not completely poo poo and do some goon races. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vId0jy_048U Cage fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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Yell hate speech, see what happens. It's not a first amendment issue no matter how little you understand law. I too am Really Sad those white supremacists had their freedoms trampled like that, but I guess they should stick to safe spaces like Trump rallies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-GEdJjVuIs Bearded guy in the black shirt, red hat is the guy (Matthew Heimbach) who applied for the permits and organized this peaceful little pro-free speech festival in Sacramento. It really sucks when your attempts to take away others' rights is impeded by people not giving you a fair chance to make your point.
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Cage posted:My advice is to not drive like me: You are awaited in Valhalla. iwentdoodie posted:I hate California nazis. Fuckin' love this movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ukFAvYP3UU
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Wrar posted:Guys Acadia National Park is so scenic it almost hurts. Can confirm. It's gorgeous up there. I just drove through Adirondack Park, and it was pretty nice despite being hazy/overcast.
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Pham Nuwen posted:https://theintercept.com/2016/06/25/brexit-is-only-the-latest-proof-of-the-insularity-and-failure-of-western-establishment-institutions/ That actually makes sense to me. It certainly goes a long way toward explaining Brexit and Trump. I definately agree that there is a lot of anger at the establishment regarding economic inequality, particularly, those in wealth being protected from their fuckups (see:banking crisis, where not a single bank executive so much as got a slap on the wrist, or auto manufacturers) while we middle class and "below" bear the brunt of said fuckups, particularly in our wallets. I'm irritated enough right now about outsourcing loving with my job as is (you may recall that my former company outsourced, and now is going with a different outsourcing provider, and I'm being asked to teach these fucks my job, while either a: hoping that MY outsourcing company can find me a computer janitor position or b: find my own computer janitor position in a market depressed by... outsourcing.) This kind of anger can easily be redirected into something, anything that isn't the status quo. Like the dude said Glenn Greenwald posted:As Bevins put it, supporters of Trump, Brexit, and other anti-establishment movements “are motivated not so much by whether they think the projects will actually work, but more by their desire to say gently caress YOU” to those they believe (with very good reason) have failed them.
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I need to get a flare nut wrench to replace the clutch cylinders on the 280ZX. What brand should I get and from whom? I was going to just do Harbor Freight but there were a lot of reviews saying their cheaply-made wrenches rounded off the nut.
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Yeah, HF flare nut wrenches are pretty sketchy. I've got both Husky and Craftsman flare nut wrenches and they've served me well.
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Rhyno posted:I'm not even sure what word vomit they speak in Australia. Strine. Ya big oval office.
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Pham Nuwen posted:I need to get a flare nut wrench to replace the clutch cylinders on the 280ZX. What brand should I get and from whom? I was going to just do Harbor Freight but there were a lot of reviews saying their cheaply-made wrenches rounded off the nut.
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IOwnCalculus posted:Yeah, HF flare nut wrenches are pretty sketchy. I've got both Husky and Craftsman flare nut wrenches and they've served me well. Ok, maybe I'll stop at Sears on the way home. I just need a 10mm so I'm thinking I'll save money and buy that rather than a full set, if possible Edit: ok so a single 10-12mm wrench is like $19, but a whole 5 piece metric set is only $18 right. I went with fast shipping to have it here by Thursday: http://www.sears.com/craftsman-5-pc-flare-nut-wrench-set-metric/p-00942013000P?prdNo=3&blockNo=3&blockType=G3 Pham Nuwen fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Jun 28, 2016 |
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InitialDave posted:I'm fortunate to be one of the people who really has no interest at all in football. I normally don't, but I love a good underdog.
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Pham Nuwen posted:I need to get a flare nut wrench to replace the clutch cylinders on the 280ZX. What brand should I get and from whom? I was going to just do Harbor Freight but there were a lot of reviews saying their cheaply-made wrenches rounded off the nut. Thanks for the article, and I got a really decent set of flare nut wrenches at O'Reilly auto parts. I think they're ac delco brand.
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