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But seriously, they're probably not far from the Castle Black tunnel.
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They're gonna come across a pack of stray hounds wearing tattered Bolton collars, then fashion a sled out of the wooden rowboat that washed up on the shores of Eastwatch. Simple stuff; they set this up like 4 seasons ago
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Jun 28, 2016 00:06
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They're right outside the Blackgate. If they're at the same Wyrdwood where the Watch give their oaths. There's a big swath of empty space before you get to the wall. Then there is the forest where the tree is.
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Jun 28, 2016 00:07
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Benjen would have dropped them off near the secret tunnel which they came through, If Sam knew about it so would Benjen.
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Jun 28, 2016 00:08
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BillBear posted:Benjen would have dropped them off near the secret tunnel which they came through, If Sam knew about it so would Benjen. Isn't it locked?
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Jun 28, 2016 00:31
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Cersei's power stops at the city walls unless she has control of an actual army and there are Lords, both great and small that support her. She has zero ability to enforce her rule on anyone who doesn't want it, and it's pretty clear the North, the Reach, the Riverlands and Dorne are having none of it. I expect the Stormlands aren't going to accept her rule, and I'd not rule out the Westerlands, who'd more likely look to Jamie than Cersei. Arya will probably Free Edmure from the Frey dungeon and either go with him or just send him to the North because that's the best way to get whoever remains in the Riverlands is going to want to support the Tully's over what ever is left of the Freys. I can't imagine they are more beloved than the Boltons, and at the same time, would not nearly be feared. That would be kind of cool if Arya didn't reveal herself to Jon and Sansa, but instead his among the serving staff so she could shank her some Littlefinger. She shows up and LF is all "I didn't order room service" and Arya is all "I'm arya stark and you killed my father" and LF tries to talk his way out of it and Arya just stabs him. I mean, at the end of the day, all I want to see is LF in a situation where cannot make a deal, cannot talk himself out of someone just straight up ending him right then and there.
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I don't know why everyone wants little finger dead when he's one of the few with the actual ability to be a good ruler instead of an idiot I guess that's the point of the hand though, to do the actual hard part
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mastershakeman posted:I don't know why everyone wants little finger dead when he's one of the few with the actual ability to be a good ruler instead of an idiot he uses people like pawns to the point of being willing to sacrifice anyone but himself, he's comically untrustworthy and disloyal to the point that it's bewildering that anyone would ever willingly accept his friendship save out of desperation, and he himself admits that he only ever does anything to further the ends of gaining power or trying to gently caress a teenage girl - to whom he's mainly attracted because he spent his whole life being a goony nice guy to her mother people want him dead because he's an evil creep; if there's any coherent thesis to the series thus far it's that there's no such thing as a good king anyway, and just like stannis, littlefinger's readiness to accept the reins of power itself suggests something wrong with him Baku fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Jun 28, 2016 |
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Jun 28, 2016 00:42
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Has anyone commented on the hamfisted "Ned, my BIG BROTHER" during the Lyanna whisper scene. It was like watching the very first episode where they drill that stuff in cringeily
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Jun 28, 2016 00:49
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drunken officeparty posted:Has anyone commented on the hamfisted "Ned, my BIG BROTHER" during the Lyanna whisper scene. It was like watching the very first episode where they drill that stuff in cringeily i had 2 different friends ask me who she was and why she was important, even after they did that. welcome to TV land.
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Jun 28, 2016 00:54
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It's not a mystery how they're going to get past the Wall. I don't see why Bran and Meera can't walk up to the gate to Castle Black and knock on the door. They can probably borrow some horses from them to in order to get to Winterfell quicker.
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mastershakeman posted:Isn't it locked? I think it's just a cave that passes through the Wall, they got rid of that black door that you need the NW oath to open.
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Jun 28, 2016 01:02
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C-SPAN Caller posted:
And that style is loving excellent.
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drunken officeparty posted:Has anyone commented on the hamfisted "Ned, my BIG BROTHER" during the Lyanna whisper scene. It was like watching the very first episode where they drill that stuff in cringeily I wouldn't have known.  GOT has too many characters.
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Jun 28, 2016 01:17
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I must be the only one that didn't like Cersei's dress. It felt a little too on-the-nose "hey look I'm evil and wearing black".
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drunken officeparty posted:I must be the only one that didn't like Cersei's dress. It felt a little too on-the-nose "hey look I'm evil and wearing black". Kinda like Sansa a couple of seasons back huh How'd that pan out anyway
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Yeah the pacing and plotting has suffered somewhat since they had to go off-script from Martin's published works, and instead use a series of bullet points he probably gave to them while eating a couple of meatball subs. It has become a fanfic of itself, and I'm sure there will be a lot little plot inconsistencies and teleportation to nitpick next year as well, but the show is still pretty wildly entertaining. And I think the endgame will be pretty cool to see.
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Arya showing up at Winterfell and calmly murdering Littlefinger in front of everyone would be amazing. Arya is basically a clean up loose plot threads at this point.
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Elias_Maluco posted:Its funny to think Jon was literally made king by a 10 years old girl Listen. Six year olds standing in halls making speeches is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical motivational speech. You can't expect to yield supreme executive power just cause some little tart threw a sword at you! I mean, if I went around saying I was King in the North just because some little bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!"
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drunken officeparty posted:I must be the only one that didn't like Cersei's dress. It felt a little too on-the-nose "hey look I'm evil and wearing black". She looked like a Bene Gesserit witch. It was great.
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mastershakeman posted:I don't know why everyone wants little finger dead when he's one of the few with the actual ability to be a good ruler instead of an idiot Which is weird, since that's what Cersei's doing already.
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Asehujiko posted:Why does Lancel chase the boy outside the church? Wasn't he sent to collect Cersei? Also, what was the point of luring Lancel towards the bomb to begin with? Is the idea that if people start removing rubble from the crater, they'll find Lancel's body, with a torch, at ground zero and assume he's the one that blew up the church? I feel like I missed something here. I don't think there was any plan to lure Lancel anywhere. Lancel saw one of the Little Birds and it looked suspicious - the streets were empty except for people affiliated with the trial, so why was this little urchin kid running around? The kid probably led him into the crypts because he figured he could lose Lancel in there. He does, and then he sneaks behind Lancel and stabs him in the back, but couldn't bring himself to slit his throat and figured that Lancel would die of the stab wound anyway, so he buggers off. The rest of it, with Lancel pulling himself far enough to see the wildfire bomb, was just a TV conceit so that we could see what was happening through his eyes, and so that there wasn't just a giant, unexplained explosion and then Cersei standing front of a mirror monologuing to herself "It looks like my plan to blow up the Sept worked. I'm so glad I planted all that wildfire last night and put some really slow-burning candles in it. Wildfire is the green goop that my brother, Tyrion, used to blow up Stannis Baratheon's fleet back in the huge expensive battle we had three years ago."
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Asehujiko posted:Why does Lancel chase the boy outside the church? Wasn't he sent to collect Cersei? Also, what was the point of luring Lancel towards the bomb to begin with? Is the idea that if people start removing rubble from the crater, they'll find Lancel's body, with a torch, at ground zero and assume he's the one that blew up the church? I feel like I missed something here. Wildfire at point of impact likely vaporizes what it touches, based on how explosive it is. I doubt there is anything left of them. Kajeesus posted:He saw a shifty-looking child running into some tunnel under the sept. I'm assuming the kid lured Lancel because he was specifically on Cersei's hit list and he was about to leave the sept early. I think that was just luck, it's more likely that the kid was instructed to lure anyone who left to the wildfire and to kill them.
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I will be literally furious and aghast if the end of the story has Dany becoming a legitimate Queen on the Iron Throne and winning the game. But it will probably happen because the show has turned into girl power hour.
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I like how in practice little finger is no worse than every other house that backstabs at the first opportunity, including the north which doesn't remember squat outside of the mormonts
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drunken officeparty posted:I will be literally furious and aghast if the end of the story has Dany becoming a legitimate Queen on the Iron Throne and winning the game. It's always been that?
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My show watcher friends think Lyanna is Dany's mom. "i bet they cut to Jon Snow because they're secretly cousins!" Not really sure why they cast Emilia Clarke's clone for the role. The Targ family tree is confusing enough as it is.
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Another thing I hope gets addressed next season is Daenerys' feelings towards forming an alliance with the Sand Snakes. I mean, I understand she needs all the help she can get, but does she really want to leave the Sand Snakes in a position of power after she takes over Westeros? After all, her own words "Our fathers left the world in a worse state that they encountered it, we are going to leave it in a better state". This is what showDoran was doing, and the Sand Snakes commited Kingslaying and Kinslaying just to get their petty revenge. They completely undermined someone who was working for peace and trying to make the world a better place! I really want to know why after the backlash the audience had TOWARDS THE SAND SNAKES and people feeling generally ok about Alexander Siddig, they decided that the proper course of action was to kill Doran and give his book role to the Sand Snakes. The whole assassination was one of the biggest writing disasters I've ever seen and they ended up getting to exactly the same place. Did Siddig ask to be bailed out?
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They don't need to find Lancel's vaporized remains. Qyburn can just put out the propaganda that the Sparrows were stockpiling wildfire for some nefarious purpose and an accident happened.
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drunken officeparty posted:Has anyone commented on the hamfisted "Ned, my BIG BROTHER" during the Lyanna whisper scene. It was like watching the very first episode where they drill that stuff in cringeily There are a ton of people who still don't know the main characters names... 60 hours in.
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Why does that one dude (Manderly?) say Jon avenged the Red Wedding? AFAIK Roose was the only Bolton involved in the massacre in any significant way, and it was mostly the Freys who did the dirty work. Ramsay himself wasn't involved at all, and he's the one who took out Roose. As far as this guy knows, Walder Frey and his mighty brood are still up and about, so from their perspective surely the bulk of revenge has yet to be accomplished? Or has news of the Freys' deaths already conveniently reached them off screen and he just assumed Jon teleported in and did that?
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Olenna asking Tyenne if she had anything to add to the conversation and then shutting her up before she could say BAD PUSSY owned hard
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drunken officeparty posted:Has anyone commented on the hamfisted "Ned, my BIG BROTHER" during the Lyanna whisper scene. It was like watching the very first episode where they drill that stuff in cringeily Only now do we see that Lyanna Stark was the Buster Bluth of the group https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo1pkHKHuts
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Lycus posted:They don't need to find Lancel's vaporized remains. Qyburn can just put out the propaganda that the Sparrows were stockpiling wildfire for some nefarious purpose and an accident happened. Incinerated by his enemies.
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Mystery Opponent posted:Olenna asking Tyenne if she had anything to add to the conversation and then shutting her up before she could say BAD PUSSY owned hard I actually felt a little bit bad about this whole sequence. It gave me the sensation that D&D actually blame the Sand Snake's actresses for the poor reception they had instead of, you know, the plot and script they gave them. Tyene's actress didn't have a single line the whole season.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:My show watcher friends think Lyanna is Dany's mom. I actually found myself confused initially during that scene, either though I knew exactly what was happening and who was in it, because the actress looked so much like Clarke. It was a weird casting choice. lezard_valeth posted:I actually felt a little bit bad about this whole sequence. I felt bad for the actresses too, but I enjoy any scene with Diana Rigg pointing out how stupid everyone else is, so it was a wash. I wouldn't blame the people portraying the Sand Snakes for what happened with them.
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I personally assumed that the lyanna casting was a nod/troll for the fan-theory that Jon and dany are twins because this ep had a bunch of little book nods like that
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Anyone got a looping gif of the king kid?
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twistedmentat posted:Cersei's power stops at the city walls unless she has control of an actual army and there are Lords, both great and small that support her. Yeah, see, there is this problem with the show that I kinda stopped caring about after a while. Armies pop up as the plot demands it and don't make sense at all. Just accept the cool CGI when the armies clash and don't think about it. Take the Ironborn for example. In universe they had their uprising like 20 years ago that everyone considered a joke but Robert and Ned decided to smash them with all their force so that they would learn their place. Then we get to s2, and their grand plan to seize the North now that everyone is fighting South...and they can barely spare 15 or so people to seize control of Torrehn's Square, which Theon then uses to take over Winterfell. Yara is sent to Deepwood Motte with around 2 ships worth of crewmembers. Upon losing Bran and Rickon, Yara urges Theon to haul rear end since even with what little was left of the North they wouldn't be able to confront them if they united to avenge the Stark boys. Then season 4, was it? Theon is sent to negotiate with the Iron Born stationed at Moat Cailin because Roose is impatient and wants to go sit at Winterfell to secure his claim, because they were practically dieing in their own poo poo. Now, not only do the Iron Born possess enough men and ships to be an asset to Daenerys' army, but they also possess enough spare men to build and man 1000 ships. Even with only 10 people manning each ship, they had more men than Jon + Ramsay's army together, even if they lacked the discipline. Euron should just have waited the Bastardbowl out behind a tree and wait them to kill each other, and then jump on the Knights of the Vale and seized both the North and the Vale in one swoop with that kind of army. What I'm trying to say is don't be surprised if suddenly, say, Lord Tarly shows up to support Cersei's cause with 20 thousand man because she promised him she will help him find his cool sword. lezard_valeth fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Jun 28, 2016 |
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