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HEY GAL posted:edit 2: While I was looking around for more art by the art guy featured in that article, I found this. Remember when we were wondering about padded jerkins and mail in the early modern period? Check out this stylish, and well-protected, fellow: How many hours a day would someone have to spend polishing a a setup like that?
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Absolutely zero - he has people for that kind of thing. Were there battlefield glam tailors following these guys around, or did they let it all go to poo poo on campaign and just dress up for the portraits?
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Jun 27, 2016 13:45
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Siivola posted:Can someone explain how in 1810 the Swedes decided to elect a French general to be their crown prince? What sort of moon logic was involved there? Suck up to Napoleon? The reigning Swedish line was extinguished so it was seen as a clever diplomatic move. It even worked out despite itself because ultimately Bernadotte turned out to like his Swedish gig too much to kowtow to Napoleon.
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Jun 27, 2016 13:56
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Bernadotte becoming king hinged a lot on one of the Swedish couriers heading for Paris essentially having an obsession about how Sweden needs a French Marshal to make it, and acting on his own authority a lot which then got approved of post-fact. Bernadotte wasn't a candidate on anyone's mind initially. In addition, Bernadotte might have bribed him.
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Jun 27, 2016 13:58
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Antti posted:Suck up to Napoleon? The reigning Swedish line was extinguished so it was seen as a clever diplomatic move. It even worked out despite itself because ultimately Bernadotte turned out to like his Swedish gig too much to kowtow to Napoleon. Didn't Napoleon loving hate Bernadotte at this point though? He summarily sacked him on the field at Wagram due to his lovely performance and told him to get lost until the battle was over.
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Jun 27, 2016 14:15
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Okay so the Swedes wanted a French guy who Napoleon liked, ended up unwittingly picking a French guy Napoleon hated, but in the long run it worked out better for them because they wound up on the ultimately winning side. There's a lesson here somewhere but I'm not sure what it is.
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Antti posted:Okay so the Swedes wanted a French guy who Napoleon liked, ended up unwittingly picking a French guy Napoleon hated, but in the long run it worked out better for them because they wound up on the ultimately winning side. Better to be lucky then clever.
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MikeCrotch posted:Didn't Napoleon loving hate Bernadotte at this point though? He summarily sacked him on the field at Wagram due to his lovely performance and told him to get lost until the battle was over. Yep! Bonaparte was a patient man as the dude had hosed up quite a few times before that but with the battle being such a close call it was the final straw and he more or less shoved Bernadotte to the French Marshal back bench. Was it ever confirmed or not the dude had a DEATH TO KINGS tattoo?
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lenoon posted:Absolutely zero - he has people for that kind of thing. It's in this, which is a website you should read if you can speak German: http://www.30jaehrigerkrieg.de/comargo-camargo-camario-cammerario-%E2%80%9Ecarnay-theodor-freiherr-de/ HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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WW2 Data Today we're examining the various General Purpose - High Explosive bombs in the Italian Ordnance list. How were they fuzed? What was the difference between a TNT-filled or an Amatol-filled 100kg bomb? What were the differences between the 500kg and 800kg bombs, aside from weight? What could be made from the 800kg bomb? Which bomb could be modified into a glide bomb? All that and more at the blog!
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Also, I discovered in the musuem gift shop they are selling tea towels with Kitchener doing the famous YOU COUNTRY NEEDS YOU POSE whilst wearing his late 19th century field marshal uniform which I expect means the WW1 one is copyrighted now. A perfect git for somebody descended from Boers I guess?
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Jun 27, 2016 18:17
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A perfect git indeed.
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my dad posted:A perfect git indeed. I wouldn't buy it, the quality alone means it'll last what, two weeks of use?
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SeanBeansShako posted:Also, I discovered in the musuem gift shop they are selling tea towels with Kitchener doing the famous YOU COUNTRY NEEDS YOU POSE whilst wearing his late 19th century field marshal uniform which I expect means the WW1 one is copyrighted now. A perfect git for somebody descended from Boers I guess? Only slightly more tasteful than floaties with his face on it.
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Jun 27, 2016 18:48
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For those that don't know what the gently caress a tea towel is, It's basically the cloth you use to wipe down plates and stuff when your done washing up.
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Mycroft Holmes posted:
Every scene of the show would start with the characters in it turning to the camera and saying "Hi, I'm X and my one personal defining quirk is Y".
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Jun 27, 2016 19:42
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God, I wish HBO would. I'd be happy with a TL-191 miniseries too.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Yep! Bonaparte was a patient man as the dude had hosed up quite a few times before that but with the battle being such a close call it was the final straw and he more or less shoved Bernadotte to the French Marshal back bench. It has never been confirmed that he didn't have it.
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SeanBeansShako posted:For those that don't know what the gently caress a tea towel is, It's basically the cloth you use to wipe down plates and stuff when your done washing up. Our leftpondian compadres say dishcloth.
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Kitchner tea cozy would be p. boss though.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Yep! Bonaparte was a patient man as the dude had hosed up quite a few times before that but with the battle being such a close call it was the final straw and he more or less shoved Bernadotte to the French Marshal back bench. Nah! But it's pretty hilarious that he was conservative as gently caress as KIng when he himself was a product of the French revolution.
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Xiahou Dun posted:There were a couple reproduction planes that were okay I guess? (Most were mothballed but they had some WWI era stuff ; my uncle, who's a pilot, was super disappointed. ) if you ever wanna get really disappointed, you should check out the Proud Bird restaurant near Los Angeles International Airport. I drive by it a lot when I'm working. It's a currently-defunct restaurant/banquet hall with a bunch of old planes in front of it. They've got what I believe to be a replica Sopwith Camel and Fokker (unsure of make I don't know WWI aviation well) and then what I'm pretty sure is a real P-51 and a MiG, among other things. They're all just sitting out in the weather getting more and more beat up. Grand Prize Winner fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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Lord Tywin posted:Nah! But it's pretty hilarious that he was conservative as gently caress as KIng when he himself was a product of the French revolution. Seriously, aside from obviousy Napoleon that revolution and the events that followed was a boon for opportunists. Look at the background of a lot of the marshals and they were either just common soldiers or dudes who's families were either low tier tradesmen or shop keepers. Or exiled nobles that managed to get their foot in the door. Or 2nd/3rd generation immigrants. Talleyrand holy poo poo was the ultimate survivor of all this. That is why I love the era. Grand Prize Winner posted:if you ever wanna get really disappointed, you should check out the Proud Bird restaurant near Los Angeles International Airport. I drive by it a lot when I'm working. It's a currently-defunct museum with a bunch of old planes in front of it. They've got what I believe to be a replica Sopwith Camel and Fokker (unsure of make I don't know WWI aviation well) and then what I'm pretty sure is a real P-51 and a MiG, among other things. They're all just sitting out in the weather getting more and more beat up. Awww. This always reminds me of that prototype Soviet space shuttle too.
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SeanBeansShako posted:That is why I love the era.  all you have to do is become a soldier
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How much of Hitler's recorded conversation with Mannerheim was just Hitler bullshitting?
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HEY GAL posted:it's the exact reason why i love the early 17th century. if you're smart and don't die in childhood of something bullshit and don't starve to death and your friends don't kill you over dice, you have a 1 in 1000 chance to make hell of bank no matter who you were when you were born. Pretty much, these guys are very different from soldiers and people of our time. And that makes them hella more human too.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Pretty much, these guys are very different from soldiers and people of our time. And that makes them hella more human too. edit: content  Vrancx again. Lots of little details in this one--for instance, there appear to be little metal disks hanging from the wallet of the man who's in the process of killing a pikeman with a flail in the center there. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Jun 28, 2016 |
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lenoon posted:Absolutely zero - he has people for that kind of thing. That's what I meant - how long would it take them?
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Someone asked Hegel a while back about 30 Years War books and Wilson came up. I'm digesting his Heart of Europe right now and it's real good too.
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100 Years Ago 26th: It's raining on the Somme; the ground will need time to dry out, so we've got a 48-hour postponement and we're back to the 1st of July again. The line at Verdun has just about re-congealed; Henri Desagneaux is still alive; the Ottomans attack again in the Caucasus; an Italian soldier gets beaten up by his mates for saving the general's life; Maximilian Mugge has just received an extremely unexpected transfer back out of the Non-Combatant Corps; Malcolm White goes up for a look at Beaumont Hamel; and Evelyn Southwell has washed up in a very odd bit of trench. 27th: One of General Hunter-Weston's brigadiers is rather worried about how optimistic his objectives are; somewhere else in the BEF, a sergeant is making some rather pointed comments to his brigadier; at HQ, General Haig is holding forth on the importance of keeping the cavalry ready to exploit that breakthrough at Pozieres. Emilio Lussu watches his captain offer some good advice to a dead man; Henri Desagneaux's ongoing tale of woe gives me an excellent idea for a segue; JRR Tolkien leaves Etaples to join his battalion; Robert Pelissier has been given some rest; and Oskar Teichman watches a boxing tournament. ArchangeI posted:Only slightly more tasteful than floaties with his face on it. Merchandising war heroes is absolutely nothing new. Here's Ian Hislop in a room full of contemporary Robert Baden-Powell/Mafeking commemorative tat.
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Presumably you intended "dhonr" to be spelt "shone"?
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Ainsley McTree posted:I just hope Landskechts become the hot new thing. It'll just take one groundbreaking HBO show to get the ball rolling... There's always Warhammer Fantasy where the main human faction is fantasy!HRE. Complete with pike-and-shot (okay halberd-and-shot), impeccable fashion, and court politics.The troops even clad themselves in the color of their province to make sure that everyone else knows what province they came from. As a plus Total Warhammer just came out and is well received. And then there's the current emperor's title: Warhammer Fantasy Wiki posted:Karl Franz I, Protector of the Empire, Defier of the Dark, Emperor Himself and the Son of Emperors, Elector Count of Reikland and Prince of Altdorf Granted he could always use a few more.
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I'm pretty sure Hey Gal's despair when she learned about the whole End Times and Age of Sigmar thingie was strong enough to attain a life of its own.
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my dad posted:I'm pretty sure Hey Gal's despair when she learned about the whole End Times and Age of Sigmar thingie was strong enough to attain a life of its own.
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Trin Tragula posted:Emilio Lussu watches his captain offer some good advice to a dead man...
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Danann posted:There's always Warhammer Fantasy where the main human faction is fantasy!HRE. Complete with pike-and-shot (okay halberd-and-shot), impeccable fashion, and court politics.The troops even clad themselves in the color of their province to make sure that everyone else knows what province they came from. Of course, they also have Steam Tanks, Wizards, and the Emperor rides around on a Griffin, so it's not a 100% cut and paste there. Also thanks to Trin Tragula. Reading the news from a 100 years ago makes a pleasent and restful alternative from looking at the news today.
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Deptfordx posted:...the news from a 100 years ago ...the news today. central europe is one big mishmash, a german rules it, nation-states in the strict sense aren't a thing, scotland and england may or may not be joined politically, england is decisively and conclusively not a World Power, and finance jobs might be coming either to a powerful german city or to spain from my point of view, the 17th century is back 
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HEY GAL posted:The squirrel thing: how well supplied are these Alpini--do you suppose the sharpshooter wants to eat them? or do you think he wants to shoot them because he's, you know, a sharpshooter and it would be a challenge? I'd think there wouldn't be much of the squirrel left if it was hit by a shot from a WW1 service rifle so probably the latter.
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ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:I'd think there wouldn't be much of the squirrel left if it was hit by a shot from a WW1 service rifle so probably the latter.
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