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Nioh is getting a LOT of changes based on the alpha, and they're doing a new demo too so that'll be interesting. It was way too hard for me too and I've slogged through defiled chalice dungeons for my BB platinum.
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Jun 28, 2016 12:06
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Sakurazuka posted:Nioh is getting a LOT of changes based on the alpha, and they're doing a new demo too so that'll be interesting. It was way too hard for me too and I've slogged through defiled chalice dungeons for my BB platinum. I think what's going to happen is difficulty will get some adjustments for sure. There was no reason to be so squishy in that game. I've platinumed all dark souls games and bloodborne and I only made it to the boss in the demo.
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Jun 28, 2016 12:22
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I'm a Soulsborne veteran and found the Ni-Oh demo excessively difficult, there was no opportunity to practice the timing of moves/parrying because you went down in 1 or 2 hits. It could have done with a gentler learning curve.
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Jun 28, 2016 12:32
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Sakurazuka posted:Nioh is getting a LOT of changes based on the alpha, and they're doing a new demo too so that'll be interesting. It was way too hard for me too and I've slogged through defiled chalice dungeons for my BB platinum. I will be interested to check out a tweaked demo. But yeah, for the difficulty, Nioh's combat didn't feel as tight as it would need to be for that kind of difficulty curve. So I felt a little too squishy. This from a guy who plays all the Soulsborne games by leveling my damage stat to the soft cap before I level anything else. So I don't mind being glass-cannon-y, but Nioh felt a little extreme in that regard.
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Jun 28, 2016 13:27
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I wish FROM had put BB on PC because I cant justify dropping 400$ on a console anymore  . It'd be nice to switch i up during this stupid rin slog FROM decided to put in.
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Jun 28, 2016 13:51
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Azuth0667 posted:I wish FROM had put BB on PC because I cant justify dropping 400$ on a console anymore That was never going to happen because the IP is owned by Sony.
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Jun 28, 2016 14:07
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HaB posted:I will be interested to check out a tweaked demo. But yeah, for the difficulty, Nioh's combat didn't feel as tight as it would need to be for that kind of difficulty curve. So I felt a little too squishy. This from a guy who plays all the Soulsborne games by leveling my damage stat to the soft cap before I level anything else. So I don't mind being glass-cannon-y, but Nioh felt a little extreme in that regard. My main gripe was the player''s weapon hitboxes. They are too precise.
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Jun 28, 2016 14:28
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Sakurazuka posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHAW39GXFqQ I feel like a bunch of games now are trying soooooo hard to copy dark souls that they just end up being terribly mediocre games. Nioh, Lotf, the surge, for honor??? They're all trying to be dark souls too much in my mind.
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Jun 28, 2016 14:53
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Guillermus posted:Just got Yhorm's to +5 but I'll get the Greataxe to +10 too because they're drat cool. My 8 slab usage list for this char is the following: Those are some good choices right there
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Jun 28, 2016 15:35
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For Honour isn't trying to be Dark Souls at all though - it's literally just an Ubisoft take on "how can me make Mount and Blade Combat simpler without losing too much of the depth" (it's making it more Batman-combat-like). Hell before E3, the assumption was that it was a pure PvP game - the fact they even have a campaign (which seems to consist entirely of dudes-that-die-in-one-hit -> fake PvP guy -> dudes that die in one hit -> fake PvP guy) came as a huge surprise.
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Jun 28, 2016 15:36
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MarshyMcFly posted:I feel like a bunch of games now are trying soooooo hard to copy dark souls that they just end up being terribly mediocre games. Nioh, Lotf, the surge, for honor??? They're all trying to be dark souls too much in my mind. I dunno i really like souls games, so this is a good thing in my mind
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Jun 28, 2016 15:41
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I'm having trouble summoning or being summoned on Xbox One. I can see summon signs, place my own, and initiate summons and get messages that I'm being summoned, but they fail. Changed my NAT from strict to open, but no dice. Any ideas?
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Jun 28, 2016 15:47
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I had that problem before and hard resetting fixed it.
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Azuth0667 posted:I wish FROM had put BB on PC because I cant justify dropping 400$ on a console anymore No, you see, there are lots of other great PS4 exclusives for you to enjoy, such as
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Jun 28, 2016 17:29
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DatonKallandor posted:For Honour isn't trying to be Dark Souls at all though - it's literally just an Ubisoft take on "how can me make Mount and Blade Combat simpler without losing too much of the depth" (it's making it more Batman-combat-like). Hell before E3, the assumption was that it was a pure PvP game - the fact they even have a campaign (which seems to consist entirely of dudes-that-die-in-one-hit -> fake PvP guy -> dudes that die in one hit -> fake PvP guy) came as a huge surprise. The pre-E3 gameplay looked quite a bit better. Also you can fuckin mordhau. which is amazing. More games need to be 'clunky'. Weight and momentum are good things to have in a movement system. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Jun 28, 2016 |
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Jun 28, 2016 17:59
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What butons does a man have to smash to get less / no damage from a grab ? ? I've never seen it work and im punishing the triggers like mad
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Jun 28, 2016 18:05
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Azuth0667 posted:I wish FROM had put BB on PC because I cant justify dropping 400$ on a console anymore Part of me hopes that with the PS4 Neo, From will release a patch that allows the game to be played at 60 FPS. I know it will never happen, but it'd be really nice.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:11
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FanaticalMilk posted:Part of me hopes that with the PS4 Neo, From will release a patch that allows the game to be played at 60 FPS. I know it will never happen, but it'd be really nice. More likely that there would be some kinda SOTFS-esque re-release that includes the DLC and scrambles enemy placement. Which would be great, really.
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Humans Among Us posted:What butons does a man have to smash to get less / no damage from a grab ? ? I've never seen it work and im punishing the triggers like mad There's very few grabs you can escape. If you hit the shoulder buttons and you see your character wiggle, it's a tech-able grab (I can only think of the Stray Demon grab being tech-able). Being able to escape by mashing was always a bug in the other games, and I'm kind of glad they finally fixed it. Putting a tiny number of grabs you can still escape in there was a dick move though.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:32
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FanaticalMilk posted:Part of me hopes that with the PS4 Neo, From will release a patch that allows the game to be played at 60 FPS. I know it will never happen, but it'd be really nice. 100% agreed. Something like this would go a long way to making Neo something I would have to purchase.
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Jun 28, 2016 19:06
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DatonKallandor posted:There's very few grabs you can escape. If you hit the shoulder buttons and you see your character wiggle, it's a tech-able grab (I can only think of the Stray Demon grab being tech-able). Being able to escape by mashing was always a bug in the other games, and I'm kind of glad they finally fixed it. Putting a tiny number of grabs you can still escape in there was a dick move though. Having Stray Demon's grab almost always be instant death because he throws you off the bridge is also kind of a dick move, so at least you can tech out of that one.
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palms sweaty.. moms spaghetti... yhorms machete..
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turtlecrunch posted:No, you see, there are lots of other great PS4 exclusives for you to enjoy, such as
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Yardbomb posted:A few reasons in 3. I'm playing on PC. On a new character I stopped levelling at 25 and am doing the wolf covenant fights. I'm using the dark axe you get in the first mimic room in the first area, at level 2. (actually no, I switched to a raw level 2 axe, my bad), two handed. I am beating most people. I don't think I'm that good, but I have all the estus shards/bone fragments available within the range I've been (so 9 sips at +2, 4 sips when invading). One good thing is that at that level range, the wolf covenant gets constant invades non stop, and there are also darkwraiths and co in the forest, all waiting to give you a helping hand. Sometimes I just get totally owned though! At that level there isn't anyone going full-cheese with any weapon type.
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yeah i have a level/upgrade locked invader char which i'm having a blast on. was SL40/+4, now i'm at 60/+6. even when i get into a situation where i'm badly outnumbered, i can often take out a bluecop for a forked tongue at the very least.
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Simply Simon posted:I keep thinking "man Bloodborne AND Demon's Souls are Sony-only...", but you cannot play DeS on PS4, right? And no, Sony isn't going to put a mini-PS3 on board their PS4s; the Cell architecture was expensive enough to make that each new PS3 was sold at a loss of several hundred dollars.
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It's a shame Microsoft hosed up so tremendously this generation that Sony could simply go "we're not an Xbone!" and instantly win everyone over, so there was nobody left to push them on their PS3 compatibility promises.
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Simply Simon posted:I keep thinking "man Bloodborne AND Demon's Souls are Sony-only...", but you cannot play DeS on PS4, right? You can play it on PS4 with the PS Now function and that's probably the best your gonna get given how different the systems' architectures are.
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Humans Among Us posted:I dunno i really like souls games, so this is a good thing in my mind Eventually someone is going to make a better Souls game than From and it's going to own.
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FROM just need to hire the guy making Spell Fighter and make a first person/VR Souls style game with a new story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8kjFcwYB5g Then disable sword wiggling on every weapon apart from rapiers because it's basically the R1 poke spam.
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turtlecrunch posted:No, you see, there are lots of other great PS4 exclusives for you to enjoy, such as The last of us remastered, uncharted collection, ratchet and clank, journey, off the top of my head. A lot of them are currently remastered versions of PS3 games but if you never had a PS3 then they are still well worth playing. There are also non-PC games like destiny if you don't have an xbox either
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Digirat posted:The last of us remastered, uncharted collection, ratchet and clank, journey, off the top of my head. A lot of them are currently remastered versions of PS3 games but if you never had a PS3 then they are still well worth playing. There are also non-PC games like destiny if you don't have an xbox either I feel like you didn't really nail this rebuttal.
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Sakurazuka posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHAW39GXFqQ Straight up looks like Lords of the Fallen under a completely different setting, right down to the admittedly good Player Character movement and less good enemy movement, getting an XP modifier according to how many things you kill before you go on a checkpoint, healthbar and potion/whatver/spell slot.
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Faux Mulder posted:I feel like you didn't really nail this rebuttal. Uncharted 4, there you go 
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I just watched that video and there's fuckin forklift suit dudes? Sign me up
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I desperately want someone to take the Dark Souls co-op and really make it work. Make a whole game focused around having about 3 other buddies or random online strangers and rolling on through some crazy D&D style poo poo. Give it a more upbeat aesthetic too. I think a game that took the same basic formula and sat down to think really hard about how to make the co-op actually challenging for a group would absolutely phenomenal.
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Obligatum VII posted:I desperately want someone to take the Dark Souls co-op and really make it work. Make a whole game focused around having about 3 other buddies or random online strangers and rolling on through some crazy D&D style poo poo. Give it a more upbeat aesthetic too. Someone is making that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yL88PejOh8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1BVgjJTN_I Kild fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Jun 29, 2016 |
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Kild posted:Someone is making that. Bleh, it's a roguelike. I want something that actually attempts to have level design. Edit: Don't get me wrong, it looks like a nice game. But it's not what I was envisioning.
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Obligatum VII posted:I desperately want someone to take the Dark Souls co-op and really make it work. Make a whole game focused around having about 3 other buddies or random online strangers and rolling on through some crazy D&D style poo poo. Give it a more upbeat aesthetic too. When I first played dark souls 1 it was the first console game I'd played in years so it was really hard for me and I almost gave up. the thing that stayed with me the most and that I wish I got from other games was that sense of going through something really difficult but knowing that other people were in there with you, which was communicated through things like the apparitions of other players near bonfires, bloodstains, the bell ringing when someone else made it (I thought that was really cool and encouraging when I was struggling with the gargoyles), etc. then I found that experience didn't last very long partly due to the presence of PvP screwing with the amount of freedom the devs could have. PvP consistently prevents them from making a 100% asymmetrical challenge in a lot of ways, and so I really want to see a game kind of like you're suggesting where it is entirely you and some ephemeral friends fighting against impossible odds, where the rules for the players and enemies can be completely asymmetrical to let the devs balance the challenge perfectly. That sense of communal yet disjoint struggle was so cool but I haven't really felt it in any later souls game.
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