thespaceinvader posted:

Source on the bolded section?

thespaceinvader posted:

My grandmother who died when I was ten was an au pair to a German Jewish family until 1938. The family were annihilated in the holocaust, and she could never speak to a German person again for the rest of her life.

But she was still firmly pro-EU because she recognised that this wasn't about her, it was about long-term peace and stability for her children and her grandchildren. Sadly, it won't be for her first great grandchild, born last year

The Insect Court posted:

Why? I'm not delusional enough to think Corbyn is fit to lead, much less that he has a snowball's chance in hell of leading Labour to a win in the next(or any) general election.

You claim to believe that, so you should be eager to show your support for Corbyn by toxxing for him. It'll be a bad decision, but you voted Leave so you seem to be comfortable making those.

thespaceinvader posted:

That;s not a deselection, it's a CLP sending a letter to their MP asking her not to be an idiot.

I could see deselection following, but it can't usefully happen until the next GE unfortunately.

ShredsYouSay posted:

That sucks

Pissflaps posted:

This resonates with me.

Gonzo McFee posted:

YEEESSSSS

Oh if David Cameron has to face the SNP. Oh my days.

thespaceinvader posted:

Yes.

My nephew is the person I'm most worried for, now that I think about it. It hadn't really struck me, but... he's never going to have the opportunities I have. He's never going to be able to go on an interrail trip around europe with his girlfriend, or go for a year abroad in france like my wife did, nip for a quick trip to portugal, nip across to calais for some cheap booze (not that I think that's specifically a good idea but anyway), etc etc etc. He's going to have a horrible childhood that will only be worse unless we win.

Extreme0 posted:

Pissflaps posted:

I can't work out what this is supposed to be.

Extreme0 posted:

thespaceinvader posted:

Yes.

My nephew is the person I'm most worried for, now that I think about it. It hadn't really struck me, but... he's never going to have the opportunities I have. He's never going to be able to go on an interrail trip around europe with his girlfriend, or go for a year abroad in france like my wife did, nip for a quick trip to portugal, nip across to calais for some cheap booze (not that I think that's specifically a good idea but anyway), etc etc etc. He's going to have a horrible childhood that will only be worse unless we win.

thespaceinvader posted:

He's going to have a horrible childhood that will only be worse unless we win.

Extreme0 posted:

The thread throwing you overboard and corbyn smiling all over us as a result.

Dzhay posted:

Why was voter turnout so low among the under 35s? I mean, I know it always is, but it makes even less sense this time.

Tesseraction posted:

Ooh, nice. You'd hope that the healthtech and *ugh* betting companies would survive this pretty well. Can see the finance analysis going to poo poo though. :/

Pissflaps posted:

Is the red thing a ship? Why is it spinning? And what's the thing being catapulted?

Is this from an anime?

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Dzhay posted:

Why was voter turnout so low among the under 35s? I mean, I know it always is, but it makes even less sense this time.

Hoops posted:

The best thing for The Northern Powerhouse would be the election of visible, powerful mayors of Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds, Newcastle, to do exactly what Sturgeon does every day. Potentially only Manchester to start with otherwise they'll crowd each other out. It'll accelerate the gently caress out of federalism as they'll have to be essentially be like US state governors, but if Andy Burnham can do it and be on TV regularly then that could potentially make a big difference. Always a suit, never ever ever in those big medal things that mayors wear.

Pissflaps posted:

Is the red thing a ship? Why is it spinning? And what's the thing being catapulted?

Is this from an anime?

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El Scotch posted:

Fans is just a kindly sort and giving Flaps' daughter a couple hours with her Da.

Oh dear me posted:

Horrible is going a bit far I think. The vast majority of human beings throughout existence have not been able to travel to lots of other countries, and some of them have quite enjoyed their lives.

NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:

I wouldn't worry about not being able to travel to Europe; I would be extremely surprised if a visa waiver programme wasn't top of both sides' lists when we finally get around to negotiating.

El Scotch posted:

Fans is just a kindly sort and giving Flaps' daughter a couple hours with her Da.

Glokta posted:

About time. He doesn't seem an attentive father.

Astroclassicist posted:

https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/747912859854708736

I want to get off Mr Corbyn's wild ride.

quote:

Britain will get a Norway-type deal to keep close economic ties with the European Union but will have no say on decision-making in the bloc after "Brexit" materializes, Finland's former prime minister Alexander Stubb said on Sunday.

The shock British referendum result has put into question Europe's post-war order, sent stocks tumbling around the world and left the EU pondering how to handle the divorce.

Stubb, who served as Finland's prime minister in 2014-15, said the EU should not push Britain into quickly launching a formal exit procedure.

"This will be an extremely complicated set of negotiations, there will be hundreds and thousands of legal, political and economic implications. After the initial shock, we should now take it easy and be patient, one step at a time," Stubb said.

"It's going painful and long," he told Reuters in a phone interview, adding that putting a firm deadline on the process would be "unwise".

Many European politicians - with the notable exception of German Chancellor Angela Merkel - have put pressure on Britain to trigger the exit procedure as soon as possible after Britain's outgoing Prime Minister David Cameron said the move was unlikely before October.

"We should not be childish in thinking about punishing the UK. It's not in the interest of Europe to cut relations with the United Kingdom and it's not in the interest of the UK to be cut off from the continent immediately either," he said.

Stubb, who held several EU jobs and was most recently Finland's finance minister until his party sacked him earlier this month, said the new deal between Britain and the bloc should keep maximum economic integration possible and pointed to non-EU member Norway as the example.

"We should try to keep Britain as close as possible but they will not have the possibility to influence decision-making. The UK will become a new Norway," he said.

"They will pay for membership, have less influence on decision-making and laws but at the end of the day have similar benefits they have today."

As a member of the European Economic Area, Norway gets access to EU's single market in exchange for contributing about 400 million euros a year to the EU budget. But it must accept EU's rules on the single market and free movement of people without a vote.

Stubb dismissed as unrealistic the Brexit campaign promise to curb immigration into Britain.

"If Britain wants to participate in the free movement of goods, services and money, it will have to participate in the free movement of labor as well. That's what Norway does. That's tough luck but that's how it goes," he said.

Astroclassicist posted:

https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/747912859854708736

I want to get off Mr Corbyn's wild ride.

serious gaylord posted:

loving ridiculous.

Astroclassicist posted:

https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/747912859854708736

I want to get off Mr Corbyn's wild ride.

TinTower posted:

UKIP voted for it, Tories split three ways

Guess what Labour MEPs did.

Gato posted:

Didn't this guy's last 'source' turn out to be a guy who claimed to have overheard Corbyn in a restaurant when Corbyn was halfway across the country at Jo Cox's funeral?