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Tesseraction posted:Oh man that Free Internet Act was beautiful. Does a copy still exist of the finished product? Probably, but I've never seen it. I only saw the original one, the publicly editable Google doc that we got really drunk and vandalized while listening to punk rock for three or four nights
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Also that I was listening to Maggot Brain a lot at the time so j kept changing adjectives in the Free Internet Act to "funkadelic"
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I've skipped to the end of this thread, so I'm not sure if anyone's already done this... I just fed HPMOR to a Markov chain chat bot. Should I post HPMORbot ideas? It could also go live on twitter and talk to HPMOR fans, if we want. WrenP-Complete has a new favorite as of 17:46 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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VioletCorsica posted:I just fed HPMOR to a Markov chain chat bot. Should I post HPMORbot ideas? It could also go live on twitter and talk to HPMOR fans, if we want. It's probably worth making a Tumblr of. There's also the Let's Read HPMOR Thread which would be interested.
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Thanks. I thought that thread was dead!
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Harry Potter and The fart noises seems very bad op. As does yud
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:Harry Potter and The fart noises seems very bad op. As does yud I'm amazed that someone could get through more than 500 words of it. I realize that it's fanfic but come on.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I'm amazed that someone could get through more than 500 words of it. I realize that it's fanfic but come on. HPMOR is so bad that I legitimately can't even get through Let's Reads of it or whatever they're called. I have no idea why people bother arguing over whether it's scientifically accurate, or really rational, when just on a basic page-to-page basis it's the worst thing ever
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The Vosgian Beast posted:HPMOR is so bad that I legitimately can't even get through Let's Reads of it or whatever they're called. You know those people who are like "science bitch!" ? That's the audience
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Twerkteam Pizza posted:You know those people who are like "science bitch!" ? There was a Cyanide and Happiness that captured my feelings on those people exactly.  Source
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I admit it, I'm really just ogling science's butt.
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pookel posted:I admit it, I'm really just ogling science's butt. Same here. I'm happy when we we do something cool or prove the existence of a fundamental particle or something, and I believe science is how we understand the universe and all, but I'm not fascinated by the boring stuff. Just tell me when we land on a new celestial body, and when I can get a cooler phone/computer part, thanks. Except Library Science. I will take that boy home to meet my parents and find a cute 1-bedroom apartment to share with him.  
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The Vosgian Beast posted:HPMOR is so bad that I legitimately can't even get through Let's Reads of it or whatever they're called. I think it's kinda fascinating, because someone has created a didactic philosophical "novel," with an actual fan base, worse that Atlas Shrugged itself.
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Ogling science's butt is pretty normal, the alt-right have an armpit sweat fetish.
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Tesseraction posted:Ogling science's butt is pretty normal, the alt-right have an armpit sweat fetish. I guess the obsession with "racialist" science would be an anime body pillow in this metaphor. Not even ogling a real science-butt, just some broken person's concept of what an ideal one should look like.
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Goon Danton posted:I guess the obsession with "racialist" science would be an anime body pillow in this metaphor.
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Tesseraction posted:Ogling science's butt is pretty normal, the alt-right have an armpit sweat fetish. neonnoodle posted:Everything about this metaphor is correct.
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When I was a dumb libertarian teenager I watched a lot of Penn & Teller's Bullshit, and in it there was an episode where they get a bunch of cheerleaders to literally cheerlead science, then in another episode they spent the entire time weaseling their way around the consensus on global warming because they didn't agree with it politically. I think that pretty much sums up all of this pretty succinctly.
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neonnoodle posted:Everything about this metaphor is correct. I would liken it to slurping up science's liquid sharts, because it's not only lovely science, it's preferred by the worst of the merdivorous racists
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Consequently after divabot / dgerard bringing up urbit's crowdsale on reddit, funny computer forum has taken up discussion of urbit. Already Curtis and the urbit have made 220,000$ or so in the crowdsale selling to racist and libertarian nerds.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:When I was a dumb libertarian teenager I watched a lot of Penn & Teller's Bullshit, and in it there was an episode where they get a bunch of cheerleaders to literally cheerlead science, then in another episode they spent the entire time weaseling their way around the consensus on global warming because they didn't agree with it politically. I think that pretty much sums up all of this pretty succinctly. My dumb libertarian-symp phase included both P&T BS and Penn's "radio show" / podcast with a libertarian friend of his. So shameful. Another Bullshit episode featured them claiming it's impossible for it to ever be worthwhile to recycle anything other than aluminum and maybe glass so shut the gently caress up about recycling you drat hippies, consume and throw poo poo away it's better for the planet.
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BobHoward posted:My dumb libertarian-symp phase included both P&T BS and Penn's "radio show" / podcast with a libertarian friend of his. So shameful. Then there's the one on smoking and how government regulation on smoking is bad because of some really bullshit reasons.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:When I was a dumb libertarian teenager I watched a lot of Penn & Teller's Bullshit, and in it there was an episode where they get a bunch of cheerleaders to literally cheerlead science, then in another episode they spent the entire time weaseling their way around the consensus on global warming because they didn't agree with it politically. I think that pretty much sums up all of this pretty succinctly. On one hand, I'm glad I got my insufferable right-wing teen phase out of the way before that P&T show, or I would have been even more insufferable. On the other, Rush was big back then, so it was still pretty bad. That is hilarious, though. "Science is right...Unless it hurts our precious straight white boy feels."
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Hermetic posted:On one hand, I'm glad I got my insufferable right-wing teen phase out of the way before that P&T show, or I would have been even more insufferable. On the other, Rush was big back then, so it was still pretty bad. They actually pointed out their own hypocrisy once - they were cheerleading pesticides in one episode and then in the next episode calling them dangerous and horrible, but then just kinda sidestepped the whole thing with a joke and kept on going. Years later they did an AMA in which they stated something along the lines of "I don't think we were ever wrong on the show, at least with the information available at the time." The earlier episodes (where they were just focused on scams and woo and stuff that wasn't basically libertarian propaganda) were pretty good at least 
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:The earlier episodes (where they were just focused on scams and woo and stuff that wasn't basically libertarian propaganda) were pretty good at least I was so looking forward to Bullshit! because I was really Penn & Teller and Skeptical Enquirer and that "I embrace science and am rational and skeptical, unlike the sheeple" attitude and would never have believed that its lasting legacy would be demonstrating the bullshit-in-action behind its own paradigm. I was kinda let down by the earlier episodes too though, because I had been anticipating a really thorough and persuasive takedown, something that would convince [whomever] of how wrong they are, but it was just preaching to the choir and Penn going "GET A LOAD OF THIS MORON". Whatever you believed going into it, you'd probably believe that even more afterwards. But they were picking easy targets so it was just the attitude that was a problem, and it made me realize that was what my attitude looked like from the outside.
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Syd Midnight posted:I was kinda let down by the earlier episodes too though, because I had been anticipating a really thorough and persuasive takedown, something that would convince [whomever] of how wrong they are, but it was just preaching to the choir and Penn going "GET A LOAD OF THIS MORON". Whatever you believed going into it, you'd probably believe that even more afterwards. But they were picking easy targets so it was just the attitude that was a problem, and it made me realize that was what my attitude looked like from the outside. It's a comedy show.
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Syd Midnight posted:I was kinda let down by the earlier episodes too though, because I had been anticipating a really thorough and persuasive takedown, something that would convince [whomever] of how wrong they are, but it was just preaching to the choir and Penn going "GET A LOAD OF THIS MORON". Whatever you believed going into it, you'd probably believe that even more afterwards. The people the Victorians smashed aren’t yowling. Old black guys in the West Indies love the British, who caned them in school so they’d learn some drat manners, and are outraged that the British won’t cane their immigrant grandchildren. When the British Empire sewed rebellious Muslims into pig skins, shot them from cannons, and buried the bits mashed up with pig bones, Muslims loved, respected, and fought for the British. And nationalist Brits like Kipling loved their brave and loyal Muslim sidekicks. Contrast with today. It didn’t stop in 1900. The Filipinos love the Americans, who tortured their separatist rebels to death. The Germans and Japanese love the Americans and the Germans love the British, who slaughtered their children in their beds by the hundreds of thousand. People (men at least) love and respect strength, despise weakness. All the groups complaining most now (black Americans, black South Africans, Aborigines of all sorts) are the ones most molly-coddled by the Victorians.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:The earlier episodes (where they were just focused on scams and woo and stuff that wasn't basically libertarian propaganda) were pretty good at least
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John Big Booty posted:I gave up on it when I found out that for all their smug, holier-than-thou poo poo-talking, they never came face-to-face with the people they were administering sick burns to. Internet atheism in a nutshell. And when the do get face to face with them, you get poo poo like a dude who (supposedly) has a PhD basically just stammering schoolyard insults, and making the young-earth creationist come off as the calm, rational one.
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Lady Naga posted:It's a comedy show. Comedy does not deflect flaws.
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Annointed posted:Comedy does not deflect flaws. "They didn't take people seriously" is not a flaw unless the show is trying to be serious, which it wasn't.
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Lady Naga posted:"They didn't take people seriously" is not a flaw unless the show is trying to be serious, which it wasn't. Then why make it about skepticism in the first place? It's a nice way to have your cake and eat it, too. If you convince people, well, that's one more skeptic or libertarian made—job well done! If you're called out for promoting bad ideology and untrue facts, then it's a comedy show, it's not like you're being serious!
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Curvature of Earth posted:Then why make it about skepticism in the first place? I fundamentally don't understand the question, what is it about skepticism specifically that makes it unsuitable for humour? Do you also get upset at mockumentaries because they're not taking their subject matter seriously either? As far as I can tell the entire thrust of the show from the beginning was "jokey jokes first, serious criticism second". If you can find something that contradicts that sentiment then by all means I'll admit I'm wrong, but you should probably dislike Bullshit because they get poo poo factually wrong, not because they make fun of people on a comedy program. Lady Naga has a new favorite as of 01:59 on Jun 30, 2016 |
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It's not the skepticism/comedy divide that's untenable. It's the making a point/being intellectually dishonest divide. I can tell a joke that isn't an accurate reflection of reality, but when I do, I kinda lose the chance to be making a serious point.
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ikanreed posted:It's not the skepticism/comedy divide that's untenable. That's fine! Criticise them for their intellectual dishonesty, not for advertising and promoting a comedy show and then choosing not to engage their opponents in reasoned debates with professional arguments.
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Lady Naga posted:That's fine! Criticise them for their intellectual dishonesty, not for advertising and promoting a comedy show and then choosing not to engage their opponents in reasoned debates with professional arguments. Uh, fine. That's what people were doing, and suggesting that "it's a comedy show" was a lazy deflection made by supporters.
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ikanreed posted:Uh, fine. That's what people were doing, and suggesting that "it's a comedy show" was a lazy deflection made by supporters. Syd Midnight posted:I was kinda let down by the earlier episodes too though, because I had been anticipating a really thorough and persuasive takedown, something that would convince [whomever] of how wrong they are, but it was just preaching to the choir and Penn going "GET A LOAD OF THIS MORON". Whatever you believed going into it, you'd probably believe that even more afterwards. But they were picking easy targets so it was just the attitude that was a problem, and it made me realize that was what my attitude looked like from the outside. Dude literally says "I came into this comedy show expecting thorough and persuasive takedowns, and the show failed to live up to this expectation. Somehow this is the show's fault, and not me".
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Lady Naga posted:Dude literally says "I came into this comedy show expecting thorough and persuasive takedowns, and the show failed to live up to this expectation. Somehow this is the show's fault, and not me". Why are you going to bat so hard for such a garbage show?
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