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Zedsdeadbaby posted:should be Paul Gascoigne IMO The Ghost of Raoul Moat (C)
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 19:42 |
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:should be Paul Gascoigne IMO
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 19:52 |
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they wont give rodgers the job it's too obvious a troll
poty fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jun 28, 2016 |
# ? Jun 28, 2016 19:57 |
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Has it got so bad that people are legitimately backing a man who hasn't managed anyone in 10 years and was sacked the first time round for saying that disabled people are being punished by God?! Why don't you just give Ron Atkinson a call while you're at it.
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 21:11 |
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CityMidnightJunky posted:
He'd light a fire under the Dannys and Dellis, might send one or two of those layabouts packing. Hell, he could be just the man England needs in the post Brexit-era.
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 21:25 |
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England lost to Iceland.
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 21:40 |
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Gigi Galli posted:He got some decent results with a pack of terrible players so there's not too much wrong with this. Worse results than Bob Bradley, maybe England could swoop in and poach him from Le Havre
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 21:53 |
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Has it got so bad that people are legitimately backing a man who hasn't managed anyone in 10 years and was sacked the first time round for saying that disabled people are being punished by God?! yes this would almost be understandable if Glenn Hoddle was a successful England manager who was coming out of retirement to try and recapture old glories, and not someone whose only tournament experience was to take an exponentially more talented England team and take them to a second-place finish in their group (behind Romania) before being knocked out in the last 16
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 21:57 |
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blue footed boobie posted:England lost to Iceland. They did, and deservedly so.
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 22:20 |
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Maybe England would do better if the fans didn't boo the players and gave them positive encouragement instead.
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 22:28 |
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We need a new manager to help bring it home.
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 22:31 |
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Pissflaps posted:We need a new manager to help bring it home. Good news...
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 22:32 |
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pulis looks like a kiddie fiddler and i will not stand for him to represent are country
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 23:01 |
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I've never really understood why manager's are not bound by the same nationality rules as players. Getting Guss Hiddink to manage your national team (which I think every country has done at this point) seems to me fundamentally no different than Israel getting Messi to play for them, yet it's allowed. It's bonkers. Yeah, teams like South Korea would be even shittier because there aren't any good South Korean Managers, but isn't that the whole point of Internationals? On topic, Guss Hiddink is available I've heard. CityMidnightJunky fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Jun 28, 2016 |
# ? Jun 28, 2016 23:04 |
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FAT WORM OF ERROR posted:pulis looks like a kiddie fiddler and i will not stand for him to represent are country He's just Welsh, give him a break
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 23:28 |
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Brony Car posted:Maybe England would do better if the fans didn't boo the players and gave them positive encouragement instead. Your're not English, you boo poo poo displays, not encourage it
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 23:40 |
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Has it got so bad that people are legitimately backing a man who hasn't managed anyone in 10 years and was sacked the first time round for saying that disabled people are being punished by God?! Even better, call up Rowan Atkinson and have him make a comedy out of it.
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 23:42 |
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blue footed boobie posted:England lost to Iceland. still lolling
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 23:44 |
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CityMidnightJunky posted:I've never really understood why manager's are not bound by the same nationality rules as players. Getting Guss Hiddink to manage your national team (which I think every country has done at this point) seems to me fundamentally no different than Israel getting Messi to play for them, yet it's allowed. It's bonkers. Yeah, teams like South Korea would be even shittier because there aren't any good South Korean Managers, but isn't that the whole point of Internationals? wrong thread
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# ? Jun 28, 2016 23:49 |
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England should go one of two ways. Embrace their shitness and give the job to Fat Sam or Pulis. You'll likely get better results and it will be funny although incredibly painful viewing. Go all out and give the job to Bielsa. The football will be good and at least when you lose it will be entertaining. What will actually happen is the job will go to someone completely uninspiring like Southgate and nothing will change. The same poo poo players will be picked and the same excuses will be made.
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 00:02 |
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Southgate, Rodgers, and Wenger are the top choices atm, l o loving l.
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 00:20 |
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Wengy wouldn't last a month as England manager, but it would be hilarious.
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 00:41 |
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Mans posted:Even better, call up Rowan Atkinson and have him make a comedy out of it. I thought about making this joke and frankly he would be the best candidate hands down.
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 00:55 |
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I've been loling at the Wenger links. Are they suggesting Wenger manages the national team parallel to Arsenal? Because any other assumption is absurd (though also that one), not to mention he could walk onto the french national team and has chosen not to for years.
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 00:58 |
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Bring back El Tel
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 01:29 |
What's Joe Kinnear up to these days
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 01:51 |
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[in the extremely England Manager Voice] Harry Kane should take the corner kicks.
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 05:59 |
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Just reminded myself that Iceland beat England lmao
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 07:32 |
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Mans posted:Even better, call up Rowan Atkinson and have him make a comedy out of it. a comedy involving the england football team? dream on
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 08:03 |
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Did anyone mention the 0-1 result England got from the knockout game with Iceland in this thread? I thought this might be relevant to discuss.
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 08:12 |
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Hmm, seems like England should just give up and quit and cry. If they try it will only get worse. Just leave the earth
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 08:13 |
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Parity warning posted:Hmm, seems like England should just give up and quit and cry. If they try it will only get worse. Just leave the earth Thanks for the D&D update
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 08:34 |
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DeepMind is an English company I think, or was until Google bought them anyway. It has my vote. It can select it's teams and tactics by running millions of football manager simulations.
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 09:26 |
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Any talk of Pulis or Rodgers taking the job is nonsense, no way someone from the other home nations takes the England job. The whole setup is poo poo. If we couldn't manage to get past the quarter finals of a competition with the likes of Owen, Beckham, Scholes, Gerrard, Ferdinand, Campbell, Neville et al in their primes, it's going to take more than a mere manager change now, regardless of whom that manager is.
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 09:57 |
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Today's Football Ramble is good about England. Talking about how any combination of managers and players you can think of has already been tried and failed, none of it has ever managed to overcome the complete mental breakdown that infects England in tournaments.
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 10:09 |
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Don't have a manager instead let Twitter decide the team and tactics using hashtags.
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 10:13 |
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peanut- posted:Today's Football Ramble is good about England. Talking about how any combination of managers and players you can think of has already been tried and failed, none of it has ever managed to overcome the complete mental breakdown that infects England in tournaments. sneak some valium into their water before games
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 10:13 |
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Ninpo posted:If we couldn't manage to get past the quarter finals of a competition with the likes of Owen, Beckham, Scholes, Gerrard, Ferdinand, Campbell, Neville et al in their primes, it's going to take more than a mere manager change now, regardless of whom that manager is. They did poorly for the same reason the current lot do. I don't know if it's player power or pressure from the English FA but they need a manager who is capable of putting together a team rather than picking all the 'star' players out and shoehorning them into a formation they're unsuited to. Just give the job to Allardyce. He's an unlikable piece of poo poo but he doesn't strike me as someone who panders to other people's whims. Also imagine
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 10:14 |
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Ninpo posted:Any talk of Pulis or Rodgers taking the job is nonsense, no way someone from the other home nations takes the England job. This tournament proves that with organisation and team spirit a team can get pretty far with championship players. I think maybe we brought too many flair players along when you just need a couple. Mark Noble to lead the line in the world cup qualifiers this autumn.
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 10:24 |
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Ewar Woowar posted:They did poorly for the same reason the current lot do. I don't know if it's player power or pressure from the English FA but they need a manager who is capable of putting together a team rather than picking all the 'star' players out and shoehorning them into a formation they're unsuited to. But the point is there isn't some magic formation or manager that will solve the issue. They've all been tried, and none of them address the fundamental problem: England melt down the moment there is a shred of pressure. Hodgson is experienced even if he's not the greatest, he knows how to make basic tactical changes when his winger and his fullback are disrupting each other. England's players know how to show themselves for passes, play 1-2s and move the ball quickly in the face of massed defense. None of these players loft floating balls at the far post for their clubs. So why do these most basic football skills desert the players and manager the moment they're representing England in a game that matters? Why do they just look clueless? They generally cruise through qualifying. They're clearly under the most paralysing pressure that we have to work out how to alleviate. In that sense Allardyce might be decent because he stops his players having think really. He has a rigid system in which players know exactly what they should be doing, which might help. England's best tournament under Hodgson was 2012 when we were playing dire football, but at least it was structured and effective. Can't see that the press would tolerate it for too long though, the complaints are what caused Hodgson to move out of his comfort zone and into the disasters of 2014 and 2016.
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# ? Jun 29, 2016 10:31 |