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Fairly decent writeup of what the parties are in the Victorian senate vote this year from Anthony Agius http://decryption.net.au/index.php/2016/06/20/who-the-hell-are-all-these-people-on-the-victorian-senate-ballot-paper/ My three favourite descriptions: "Decryption's Guide To The Senate posted:AUSTRALIAN LIBERTY ALLIANCE
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THAT LOOKS VERY GENUINE AND NOT AT ALL TERRIBLY PHOTOSHOPPED BY A NEWSCORP NEWSRAG
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Jun 29, 2016 02:25
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Why are there so many parties I want to put last? It's not about me being undecided who to vote for, it's who I don't want my vote that's far more important.
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Jun 29, 2016 02:27
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After the election if the LNP wins is he obligated to try and get the ABCC stuff through? What happens if it fails again?
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Jun 29, 2016 02:29
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Senor Tron posted:After the election if the LNP wins is he obligated to try and get the ABCC stuff through? What happens if it fails again? Refer to every other broken promise a politician makes.
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Jun 29, 2016 02:33
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wombat74 posted:Fairly decent writeup of what the parties are in the Victorian senate vote this year from Anthony Agius Mine: ANIMAL JUSTICE PARTY First impressions: Senator Poon, lol. DLP DEMOCRATIC LABOUR I really can’t get a read on the DLP. I think they’re like an evil ALP. MFP John Madigan’s Manufacturing and Farming Party. John Madigan used to be part of the DLP, but quit. He’s anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage. Offering a Thermomix as a prize if you enter his raffle to raise funds to help him get re-elected. HALL Dennis – just has a Facebook page. Opposes same sex marriage and the safe schools initiative. Posts a lot of christian-esque stuff on his facebook page. Looks like your crazy uncle who talks a lot of poo poo.
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Jun 29, 2016 02:33
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Tokamak posted:Refer to every other broken promise a politician makes. I just wasn't sure if there was actually some legal obligation to try and force it through as a consequence of a DD having been called.
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Jun 29, 2016 02:34
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Spudd posted:Why are there so many parties I want to put last? It's not about me being undecided who to vote for, it's who I don't want my vote that's far more important. Have a read of that tactical senate voting page linked on the previous page here. With the changes to senate voting this election, it's important that if you don't want a party to have a chance of your vote going towards them that you DON'T number them. A blank square is more effective than the lowest number on the ballot
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Jun 29, 2016 02:38
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SCIENCE PARTY / CYCLISTS PARTY The nerds and the lycra crew are combining their forces in Victoria! As a certified nerd, I can dig pretty much 100% of what they’re standing for. Interesting that they propose the creation of an Australian Charter City. WTF is a charter city? Basically a place that’s set up to be a center of science and technology excellence in Australia. They wanna call it Turing Im having the strangest case of deja vu
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Jun 29, 2016 02:42
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Surely that effect is diminished by the increase in value of a vote still in the system due to the decrease in quota?
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Jun 29, 2016 02:43
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norp posted:Surely that effect is diminished by the increase in value of a vote still in the system due to the decrease in quota? Yes and no - the decreased quotas come into play, but if for whatever reason there are x candidates left over without a quota between them, and x seats, then those candidates all get a seat. If you leave candidates you don't want off your ballot your vote will never have a chance of being distributed to the pool for those remaining candidates, meaning they have a (statistically irrelevant) lower chance of surviving elimination to be Last Senator Standing
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Jun 29, 2016 02:47
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quote:Rob Oakeshott could be on the verge of a dramatic return to Parliament. quote:A ReachTel poll conducted a fortnight ago indicated that Mr Hartsuyker's primary vote had tumbled from 53 per cent at the last election to 39 per cent up once Mr Oakeshott entered the race. 
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Jun 29, 2016 02:51
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New england and Cowper going independent would make me very happy
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Jun 29, 2016 02:53
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Scylo posted:New england and Cowper going independent would make me very happy Especially if they hold the balance of power again
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Jun 29, 2016 02:56
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Lid posted:They wanna call it Turing With hovertrains.
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Jun 29, 2016 02:57
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gay picnic defence posted:Especially if they hold the balance of power again Only if we can have Oakeshott followed by a small band who can play him off if he starts monologueing again
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Jun 29, 2016 02:57
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What's the punchline on page 5?
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Jun 29, 2016 03:05
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First Dog: Instead of a kitten picture, here is a video with kittens in it: Link
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http://www.domain.com.au/news/one-in-10-apartments-sold-for-a-loss-in-march-quarter-report-20160628-gpu5i0/quote:One in every 10 apartments in Australia sold for less than what the owner paid for it over the March quarter, new research shows. 
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Jun 29, 2016 03:19
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My bet is with swining voters backing ALP thinking Shorten won't win like Brexit voters. ALP minority incoming if 2-3 greens and 2 IND. All the ALP has to do is hit 70-71?
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Jun 29, 2016 03:30
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gay picnic defence posted:http://www.domain.com.au/news/one-in-10-apartments-sold-for-a-loss-in-march-quarter-report-20160628-gpu5i0/ Anecdote, but an apartment development near me has dropped 3br prices by around $70k and cancelled tower 2 in the last 8 months.
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Jun 29, 2016 03:32
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Cartoon posted:It's almost endearing how incompetent both our right wing fascists and Islamists are. Windsor is new england though, rural australia. How well do they think concern trolling about bullying is going to play outside the lefty latte inner-whatevrrs. Ive seen a few "better off without barnaby" signs while going through tamworth. Made me smile
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Jun 29, 2016 03:38
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Just voted. I look forward to being represented in the senate by the Socialists/Sex Party/Drug Reform Party/Arts Party/Sustainable Party/Cyclists Party/Secular Party/Renewable Energy Party/Equality Party/Animal Justice Party/Progressive Party/Greens/ALP.
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Anidav posted:My bet is with swining voters backing ALP thinking Shorten won't win like Brexit voters. ALP minority incoming if 2-3 greens and 2 IND. All the ALP has to do is hit 70-71? Well I guess this settles it that we're gonna get a Coalition majority.
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Windsor is new england though, rural australia. How well do they think concern trolling about bullying is going to play outside the lefty latte inner-whatevrrs. Ive seen a few "better off without barnaby" signs while going through tamworth. Made me smile In Armidale yesterday a guy handing out for the nats kept referring to Windsor as the bully and the rear end-whipper. Pretty annoying
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Senor Tron posted:I just wasn't sure if there was actually some legal obligation to try and force it through as a consequence of a DD having been called. You can't pass something that doesn't want to be passed. The DD is supposed to assist a popular minority government to clear out the senate and vote in more favourable senators, which is a pipe dream for this election. Even if there were obligated to try and pass it, they will end up where they are today. Blocked in senate with another trigger for a DD. And if they were to try that again, then it will likely not go well for them. Lid posted:Im having the strangest case of deja vu There were around last election. open24hours posted:With hovertrains. They basically want a Silicon Valley libertarian city state. What's more amusing is that we already have a university town, without traffic congestion that is located between Sydney and Melbourne. It's called Canberra. All of the poo poo with zero/low taxes, relaxed immigration (to exploit), investment schemes, the two underground levels of perpendicular tunnels where people quickly transit across town, etc. is even more fanciful than bullet train for australia and coke in the bubblers combined. At least the bullet train could be our replacement High Speed Rail if the government was wanted to blow a bunch of cash. And I bet Coca-Cola would be willing to cut a very special deal to get kids hooked on Coke.
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gay picnic defence posted:http://www.domain.com.au/news/one-in-10-apartments-sold-for-a-loss-in-march-quarter-report-20160628-gpu5i0/ And that's just the ones that are selling. I've been keeping an eye on the market nearby - there are a lot of "O.N.O.", "buyer wants to sell!" on private sales, and auction results are showing a lot of passed-in at seemingly reasonable (for the inflated market ideals) vendor bids.
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Jun 29, 2016 04:09
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Are there any good explanations for how Senate below the line preferences are calculated/exchausted now?
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Tokamak posted:They basically want a Silicon Valley libertarian city state. What's more amusing is that we already have a university town, without traffic congestion that is located between Sydney and Melbourne. It's called Canberra. Yeah it was discussed at length last election, and somehow morphed into a plan to build a city out of rubbish in the Western Australian desert where boat people could be made to work for their citizenship. Or maybe I'm confusing it with another plan that came out of this thread.
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Kat Delacour posted:And that's just the ones that are selling. I've been keeping an eye on the market nearby - there are a lot of "O.N.O.", "buyer wants to sell!" on private sales, and auction results are showing a lot of passed-in at seemingly reasonable (for the inflated market ideals) vendor bids. Wait, does that mean... it's happening?
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Scylo posted:In Armidale yesterday a guy handing out for the nats kept referring to Windsor as the bully and the rear end-whipper. Pretty annoying New England has plenty of private boys' schools, where that kind of thing is/was par for the course - should be worth more votes for Windsor :-)
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Mr Chips posted:Are there any good explanations for how Senate below the line preferences are calculated/exchausted now? This explains it by framing it as "tactical voting"
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Jun 29, 2016 04:23
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Vladimir Poutine posted:Wait, does that mean... it's happening? I wish. It's just apartments in inner Melbourne, because there's an oversupply with more to come from the CBD. It's mostly just affecting the poo poo-box investor traps, if you're looking for a place to call home it's much tougher.
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open24hours posted:Yeah it was discussed at length last election, and somehow morphed into a plan to build a city out of rubbish in the Western Australian desert where boat people could be made to work for their citizenship. Or maybe I'm confusing it with another plan that came out of this thread. That was a poster's final solution to the refugee problem.
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open24hours posted:Yeah it was discussed at length last election, and somehow morphed into a plan to build a city out of rubbish in the Western Australian desert where boat people could be made to work for their citizenship. Or maybe I'm confusing it with another plan that came out of this thread. That was Shenadigins' brilliant plan.
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open24hours posted:Yeah it was discussed at length last election, and somehow morphed into a plan to build a city out of rubbish in the Western Australian desert where boat people could be made to work for their citizenship. Or maybe I'm confusing it with another plan that came out of this thread. That was Shenanigan/Hobo Erotica's plan to deal with boat people. Put them in some Mad Max garbage city in the middle of the desert where they'd create their own economy and wouldn't bother the white man.
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thatfatkid posted:Just voted. I look forward to being represented in the senate by the Socialists/Sex Party/Drug Reform Party/Arts Party/Sustainable Party/Cyclists Party/Secular Party/Renewable Energy Party/Equality Party/Animal Justice Party/Progressive Party/Greens/ALP. same unironically
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gay picnic defence posted:That was Shenanigan/Hobo Erotica's plan to deal with boat people. Put them in some Mad Max garbage city in the middle of the desert where they'd create their own economy and wouldn't bother the white man. Going to have to be more specific in Australia.
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