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Dick Trauma posted:My company hovers at around 50 employees. Over the last year and a half we've lost 24 people to resignations and terms. I'm told that's normal for this place. Isn't a normal car payment around 1k a month for something new nowadays?
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Jun 28, 2016 17:46
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The mortgage on my house is $1k. Quick back of the envelope numbers say that's probably a two or three year lease on a $100k car.
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Jun 28, 2016 17:55
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A four year loan for a normal person new car (~$20k) is going to be around $300 a month. I will never own a car that costs a thousand a month. 
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Jun 28, 2016 18:00
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Dick Trauma posted:My company hovers at around 50 employees. Over the last year and a half we've lost 24 people to resignations and terms. I'm told that's normal for this place. That does seem high for a 50 person company. I wouldn't give it a second thought at a 1000+ employee place.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:02
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RFC2324 posted:Isn't a normal car payment around 1k a month for something new nowadays? I mean, for certain very strange definitions of "normal", sure.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:05
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xzzy posted:A four year loan for a normal person new car (~$20k) is going to be around $300 a month. You could buy a normal person car, two backups, and still have an extra hundred a month to cover the insurance.
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Jun 28, 2016 18:14
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The CEO has a little fleet of cars including an i8 and a GT3 (that he curbed) so I think his view of what's normal is somewhat skewed. That skew seems to cover pretty much everything. EDIT: Receptionist at the old place just emailed me. They still haven't replaced the I.T. Manager that quit in January! They're using the helpdesk guy and the MSP's onsite engineer. The expense to have the engineer there all day every day is mind blowing. The VP of I.T. position has been reopened. They've been looking since November of 2014. 
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Jun 28, 2016 18:20
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Dick Trauma posted:In the few minutes I was in there working on the CEO's iPhone the executive asked for and was granted a $750 a month vehicle allowance. That number seems absurd to me. Worked at a chemical company and the plant manager was allowed to lease a mid-size crossover or sedan (Ford Edge is what the person picked). I'm sure that was at least $400/month. These were all years ago so I can imagine they're near 750/month now
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Jun 28, 2016 18:29
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My old AWFUL_JOB offered a colleague a car stipend to avoid paying taxes on a raise (not sure if that's a thing) but his salary was ~80k and they got him a $900/mo lease on an full size fully loaded white on white Infiniti. We only had maybe 8 employees. That place was madness.
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Jun 28, 2016 22:44
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Jerk McJerkface posted:My old AWFUL_JOB offered a colleague a car stipend to avoid paying taxes on a raise (not sure if that's a thing) but his salary was ~80k and they got him a $900/mo lease on an full size fully loaded white on white Infiniti. We only had maybe 8 employees. That place was madness. I'm not an accountant, but If I had to guess, they probaly counted that $900/month as a business expense instead of a benefit, which means that instead of having to pay payroll tax on a ~12,000 a year raise, they can take tax deductions on a ~12,000 a year expense.
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Jun 28, 2016 23:12
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Greatbacon posted:I'm not an accountant, but If I had to guess, they probaly counted that $900/month as a business expense instead of a benefit, which means that instead of having to pay payroll tax on a ~12,000 a year raise, they can take tax deductions on a ~12,000 a year expense. But there are also very specific rules regarding fringe benefit tax for this sort of thing. To catch this exact scenario. This is why all of our vehicles have company branding and the company policy is for company usage only. This policy is not strictly enforced but it exists for tax reasons.
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Jun 29, 2016 00:20
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My mother in law's company offers company vehicles or a stipend for field visiting employees. The men get $200 more than the women. Never change oil field companies, never change.
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Jun 29, 2016 00:44
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go3 posted:My mother in law's company offers company vehicles or a stipend for field visiting employees. The men get $200 more than the women. Never change oil field companies, never change. The gently caress?
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Jun 29, 2016 00:54
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Was this the same oil field company as the one that had some huge thing with an employee getting caught spending tons of money at a strip club by his wife, and then in retaliation he told the boss's wife about the boss going to strip clubs / hiring prostitutes / whatever?
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Jun 29, 2016 01:35
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Oh no completely different. This one is actually pretty large.
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Jun 29, 2016 01:44
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go3 posted:My mother in law's company offers company vehicles or a stipend for field visiting employees. The men get $200 more than the women. Never change oil field companies, never change. I know a black, female DBA who applied for a job at a power company. Got told by HR during her interview that "it's kind of a good old boys club around here, and we don't really see you getting the job". SPOILER ALERT she didn't get the job.
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Jun 29, 2016 03:17
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hihifellow posted:I know a black, female DBA who applied for a job at a power company. Got told by HR during her interview that "it's kind of a good old boys club around here, and we don't really see you getting the job". SPOILER ALERT she didn't get the job. I assume she made out pretty well in her lawsuit?
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Jun 29, 2016 03:21
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myron cope posted:I assume she made out pretty well in her lawsuit? Hahahaha Haha Hah
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Jun 29, 2016 03:44
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RFC2324 posted:Isn't a normal car payment around 1k a month for something new nowadays? Here in Denmark cars are taxed so hard it makes the prices twice as high as most other countries, and I still think $1000/month is a high amount. Leasing examples - Mercedes C 200 aut. Business AMG Line eksteriør - Volvo XC60 D4 aut. Momentum PL - BMW 420d Coupe (F32) Buying the car (with payment over 7 years @3% APR (not good, but whatever) - Subaru Forester 2,0 D X CVT AWD - Volvo V40 2,0 T3 152 Momentum - Nissan X-Trail 1,6 dCi 130 Tekna 4WD - VW Passat 1,4 GTE Variant DSG - Audi A4 2,0 TDi 136 Ultra Avant (I have a morgage of $1041/month, and pay $372/month on both cars. )
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Jun 29, 2016 07:50
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Crowley posted:eksteriør Hey I can read Danish! 
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Dick Trauma posted:Hey I can read Danish! Danish is simple!  and  That's pretty much all you need to know. Crowley fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Jun 29, 2016 |
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Jun 29, 2016 08:36
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myron cope posted:I assume she made out pretty well in her lawsuit? Seriously, that's a straight-up blatant breach of the Civil Rights Act. You'd think HR of all people would know better than to explicitly state that.
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Jun 29, 2016 15:50
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Goddamnit hard disk, what do you want from me? Occasionally threw up SMART alerts for imminent disk failure on boot, every scan I've thrown at it says everything is fine including built-in diagnostics. I'm doing the warranty dance having to check everything out to post logs. Is it at all possible an ever so slightly loose sata connector being a culprit? I can't think of anything else since there haven't been any obvious problems, it's an Intel 535 SSD.
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Jun 29, 2016 17:11
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Do you have any colleagues who like practical jokes?
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Jun 29, 2016 17:16
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Jeoh posted:Do you have any colleagues who like practical jokes? 
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Jun 29, 2016 17:18
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The line between practical joke and incompetence is very fine. "Yeah I put the new hard drive in but it's still not able to see anything.. can you take a look?" 
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Jun 29, 2016 17:36
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Super Slash posted:Goddamnit hard disk, what do you want from me? I had one drive on my home desktop occasionally disappearing entirely, and usually reappearing on reboot. Finally stopped doing that after I swapped out the SATA cable - I guess it was just loose enough that the vibration from the fans/spinning platters/etc. would gradually work it *just* loose enough to disconnect, and the startup vibration would enable it again. (That, or my fiddling with the cables while cursing horribly: "something something Machine Spirits something rotten sonofabitch something gallon of gas something".)
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Jun 29, 2016 17:38
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:I had one drive on my home desktop occasionally disappearing entirely, and usually reappearing on reboot. Finally stopped doing that after I swapped out the SATA cable - I guess it was just loose enough that the vibration from the fans/spinning platters/etc. would gradually work it *just* loose enough to disconnect, and the startup vibration would enable it again. (That, or my fiddling with the cables while cursing horribly: "something something Machine Spirits something rotten sonofabitch something gallon of gas something".) We had an issue like that about 10 years ago, relatively large server purchase.. 500+ 2u servers. The hardware configuration we chose made it through testing with flying colors, the test stand was two servers in a rack by themselves that we ran some benchmarks on. But once the full purchase was installed and powered up, we were getting massive amounts of I/O errors doing burnin.. during shakedown any errors are required to be fixed within 24 hours or the vendor risks losing the contract, and we were seeing more than 50% of the hard drives barfing. After lots of meetings with Very Important People and much experimentation and research, someone discovered the chassis fans were the cause. Turns out when you have 32 machines in a rack and 16 racks all lined up in a row, all those fans spinning at full tilt created enough vibration that it jittered the hard drive heads. Vendor had to source new smoother fans and retrofit every server. 
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Jun 29, 2016 18:01
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xzzy posted:After lots of meetings with Very Important People and much experimentation and research, someone discovered the chassis fans were the cause. Turns out when you have 32 machines in a rack and 16 racks all lined up in a row, all those fans spinning at full tilt created enough vibration that it jittered the hard drive heads. Vendor had to source new smoother fans and retrofit every server. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Serious Hardware / Software Crap > More poo poo that pisses you off: My boss says I shouldn't scream in the datacenter
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Jun 29, 2016 21:05
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RFC2324 posted:Isn't a normal car payment around 1k a month for something new nowadays?
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Jun 29, 2016 21:20
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:You've been rich for way too long m'man. I've never owned a new car lol. Going by what i have seen people say for something new
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Jun 29, 2016 21:43
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RFC2324 posted:I've never owned a new car lol. Going by what i have seen people say for something new Then you are hanging around people with overly expensive cars. The average joe buys a car in the 20-30k USD range. If you get a 6% loan (middle of the road credit) on $30,000 over 5 years, that's only $580 or 590 a month. For $1,000 a month, you're looking at about $55,000 USD. That's solidly in the luxury car. (Unless people are talking about all of the ownership costs, e.g. fuel, maintenance, insurance, etc)
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Jun 29, 2016 21:52
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Arsten posted:Then you are hanging around people with overly expensive cars. The average joe buys a car in the 20-30k USD range. If you get a 6% loan (middle of the road credit) on $30,000 over 5 years, that's only $580 or 590 a month. Then you are hanging around people with overly expensive cars. The average joe probably spends less than 5K per vehicle off craigslists.
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Jun 29, 2016 21:57
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Jeoh posted:Do you have any colleagues who like practical jokes? No SATA cable shenanigans here I'm afraid! Zamboni Apocalypse posted:Finally stopped doing that after I swapped out the SATA cable - I guess it was just loose enough that the vibration from the fans/spinning platters/etc. I'm hoping it's not the case with this as the machine is a HP 260 G1 Mini PC, so that means an itty bitty ribbon cable instead!
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Jun 29, 2016 22:05
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Johnny Aztec posted:The average joe probably spends less than 5K per vehicle off craigslists.
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Jun 29, 2016 22:11
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Johnny Aztec posted:Then you are hanging around people with overly expensive cars. The average joe probably spends less than 5K per vehicle off craigslists. I hang around with people who need reliable transportation and just get some flavor of sedan or small SUV if they have a family. While there is a lot of churn on CraigsList in lovely cars, I seriously doubt someone with a $750 car allowance from a company is going to jump all over MC Fruit Stripes' 08 Civic. MC Fruit Stripe posted:Here here. I'm driving an '08 Civic that I bought for a song off Craigslist and I'm going to drive it til the wheels fall off the motherfucker. Working from home and putting maybe 25 miles on my car per week, it's difficult to justify more. Working from home is ideal and it makes your car purchase much less a requirement. In that situation I can't fault you. In my situation, though, if I am in town, I travel at least 62 miles per day. I pay less for my base model sedan's purchase (also it is normalized each month versus unpredictable spikes) than I ever did on repairs to the....er.... "deals" from CraigsList and/or used car lots.
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Sorry about your lovely car  It probably helps to be a car geek so you know what repairs are going to be needed after buying, and so you know which cars have a big problem, even from otherwise reliable brands. If I had a 62 mile commute, I would probably try to find something more comfortable than my hatchback, though. Unexpected spikes should be minimal with a good car, and those can even happen with newer cars, unless you mean your car is still under warranty.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Sorry about your lovely car I'm not a car geek (I have better things to spend my money on ) but I have a lot of knowledge on vehicles. I can identify many issues and repair them myself. The problem is that I travel too much (both by car and by air) to be able to sit down and dedicate a day to fixing my car.As for spikes, if you keep a car from new and are good with the PM (not just oil changes, but all of the PM schedule) then it'll last for a long time and give few unexpected spikes in operating cost. It's harder to do that with a used car and I generally buy from a lot (because I have  relationships I can exploit) and attach a repair rider and take care of the PM like a new car. The extra cost is negligible and it significantly smooths the cost spike potential.For instance, my wife got a used car, but at the test drive I could tell the CVT had issues so I got a repairs agreement on the purchase. When it inevitably failed 10k miles later, I didn't have to pay a dime and the repair cost was more than the agreement, so I saved a crapload. Plus, I still had another 70,000 miles on the repair agreement in case it keeps breaking.
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I absolutely get not having the time/energy to fix your car. I do oil changes and will eventually get around to the antifreeze, but beyond that, I just take it in. I took a week to do the last major repair I did myself due to sadistic design. At the time I had a company vehicle, but if I can't guarantee it will be done by the end of Sunday, I can't risk it. I never bought a car myself. I'm driving a Subaru that my mother bought for $5000 when I started college. Since 2014 I have put about $4500 into it, but almost all of that was predictable maintenance, aside from the above repair and another part I think I hosed in the process of that repair. If I had gotten a 2.5 engine instead of the 2.2 and not known about the head gaskets on Subaru 2.5s, that would have been a $1500 unexpected spike. That's what I was thinking about when I said problems with reliable brands.
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