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Noam Chomsky posted:did we ever find out if gay people are real? are straight people? what do the polls say? How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real
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karlor posted:How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real you know that's a good point. makes u think
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I get really uncomfortable with the "biology" arguments. Like when people were arguing over whether being gay was a choice or something they were born as. It shouldn't matter, and pretending it does puts everything into outdated religious frameworks of whether something is acceptable or sinful.
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Inferior Third Season posted:I get really uncomfortable with the "biology" arguments. Like when people were arguing over whether being gay was a choice or something they were born as. It shouldn't matter, and pretending it does puts everything into outdated religious frameworks of whether something is acceptable or sinful. when you're trying to convince someone they're wrong you have to work on their terms so long as a majority of people thing gender is innate and biological then the sexed brain argument will be effective even if it is inaccurate
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In non-gender-related news, Puerto Rico may not be (quite) as hosed as it appeared (for now) (maybe). Strange bedfellows on both sides of this.
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haveblue posted:In non-gender-related news, Puerto Rico may not be (quite) as hosed as it appeared (for now) (maybe). Strange bedfellows on both sides of this. So what the gently caress is this bill actually
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Hmmm pretty fair, even discussion of issues surrounding gender and sexuality but have you considered that
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zoux posted:Hmmm pretty fair, even discussion of issues surrounding gender and sexuality but have you considered that
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karlor posted:How Can Mirrors Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real I'm so glad someone else remembers Jaden. I wouldn't believe anyone who told me "In the future, Will Smith's son will break your brain," and I like to think I have a very good brain. Prester, that was excellent. It does beg the question: are you Mac, or PC?
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theflyingorc posted:Luckily for her, there has never been anyone in the whole world being weird and sexually aggressive RE: diapers
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Inferior Third Season posted:I get really uncomfortable with the "biology" arguments. Like when people were arguing over whether being gay was a choice or something they were born as. It shouldn't matter, and pretending it does puts everything into outdated religious frameworks of whether something is acceptable or sinful. I mean that sucks for you but a personal choice v. being born a certain way is kind of a big deal. Sorry if this offends you somehow (???)
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zoux posted:Hmmm pretty fair, even discussion of issues surrounding gender and sexuality but have you considered that An absurd reaction to something she can't understand, or a desperate attempt to explain a diaper fetish?
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Business Gorillas posted:I mean that sucks for you but a personal choice v. being born a certain way is kind of a big deal. Sorry if this offends you somehow (???) It would matter if the choice had an inherently correct or incorrect option, but it doesn't because there's no moral problem with transgender people choosing to live their life the way they wish to identify. Why does it matter?
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Tatum Girlparts posted:So what the gently caress is this bill actually Puerto Rico doesn't get to declare bankruptcy and let a court handle restructuring the debts. Instead an unelected commission gets to restructure its debts on its behalf. Paul Ryan's office specifically likens it to the boards which oversaw NYC's debt crisis in 1975 and DC in 1996. EDIT: Also the minimum wage for 20-24 year olds in Puerto Rico is lowered to $4.25 an hour from $7.25. ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Jun 29, 2016 |
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Puerto Rico doesn't get to declare bankruptcy and let a court handle restructuring the debts. Instead an unelected commission gets to restructure its debts on its behalf. I mean that's not good but is there a better option on the table that doesn't involve 'ok ride out a few months of just straight up no money for anything remotely state related'? I really just don't see what a good end for PR is here.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Why is it a big deal? It depends on the context and who is involved in the conversation. If you're trying to win basic rights from a populace with an entrenched ideology, that doesn't understand you at best and hates you at worst, claiming to be born a certain way, and to not to have chosen to be a certain way, can more easily let you claim the moral high-ground in the eyes of the the public. Most people, sadly, are not yet at the point where they're willing to allow people to live whatever way they wish, for some reason. I wish everyone concentrated on themselves and how they're leading their lives instead of having huge problems with random people doing whatever. But, introspection is hard; it's much easier and more satisfying to judge and alienate others.
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Shifty Pony posted:Hey how would everyone like to watch a dumpster fire in action? This got lost in the shuffle but is incredible. Left unsaid is the fact that he spent 45 minutes detailing the murderous child rape rings run by the Bushes, to the GOP, in Texas I've seriously enjoyed following Morrow these many months since he got elected with the unique strategy of telling people not to vote for him and still getting in because his name was first on the ballot
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I mean that's not good but is there a better option on the table that doesn't involve 'ok ride out a few months of just straight up no money for anything remotely state related'? I really just don't see what a good end for PR is here. Let them declare bankruptcy and not pay back wealthy mainland creditors?
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:An absurd reaction to something she can't understand, or a desperate attempt to explain a diaper fetish? One day our political class will embrace their fetishes and feel unashamed. Until that day, take a wide stance, baby.
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Trabisnikof posted:Let them declare bankruptcy and not pay back wealthy mainland creditors? Right but doesn't the bankruptcy process inherently involve a lot of 'cool so we're not gonna be able to pay for basic needs for a while'? I thought because the debts are private there's not much 'forgiveness' options available unless all these dudes who were eager to suck PR dry so they could take advantage of the husk suddenly grow hearts?
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I mean that's not good but is there a better option on the table that doesn't involve 'ok ride out a few months of just straight up no money for anything remotely state related'? I really just don't see what a good end for PR is here. Not really, no. This bill managed to pass the House before it went into recess, and they aren't going to come back before PR's time runs out, so there's no chance to amend it. The best thing you can say is that it keeps someone's hand on the tiller so we aren't in totally uncharted waters. haveblue fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Jun 29, 2016 |
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max4me posted:DISCLAIMER: THIS WILL BE MY LAST POST IN THIS THREAD When I read this maxi boy I was expecting a troll post. But yeah take a break go do something you enjoy  Xanderkish posted:
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Right but doesn't the bankruptcy process inherently involve a lot of 'cool so we're not gonna be able to pay for basic needs for a while'? I thought because the debts are private there's not much 'forgiveness' options available unless all these dudes who were eager to suck PR dry so they could take advantage of the husk suddenly grow hearts? Nah, that's the whole point of bankruptcy, to prioritize who gets the money. We could allow PR to declare bankruptcy and keep services running. Of course, that means investors on the mainland would lose more money so....
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Shifty Pony posted:Hey how would everyone like to watch a dumpster fire in action? Lol it's literally that scene from the Dark Knight where the Joker goes to the mob meeting
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Why are so many cities and states and apparently territories such poo poo at managing money god drat
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zoux posted:Hmmm pretty fair, even discussion of issues surrounding gender and sexuality but have you considered that You could probably get a lot of people to be willing to let trans people use any bathroom they prefer if the alternative is having to stand around people who just poo poo themselves.
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Business Gorillas posted:I mean that sucks for you but a personal choice v. being born a certain way is kind of a big deal.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Why are so many cities and states and apparently territories such poo poo at managing money god drat Congress basically setup Puerto Rico as a in country tax shelter for decades, and the Puerto Rican authorities budgeted like this would never change. Congress yanked the rug out from under them around the time the world economic shat the bed and Puerto Rico is in legal limbo and lacks the tops to adequately respond. Also, Puerto Rico doesn't seem to have agitated especially hard for either statehood or independence. It's apparently a point of contention there.
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zoux posted:Hmmm pretty fair, even discussion of issues surrounding gender and sexuality but have you considered that Im cool with this, less crowded bathrooms for the rest of us
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Ups_rail posted:
race is absolutely fluid but much like gender, the people who think they're hacking the system by smugly declaring they're a lady now and you can't do anything about it a) don't get it and b) are generally the kinds of people who freak out more when pressed on their classifications of others the real answer is to recognize that the less people give a poo poo about race or gender the less of a problem it will be for society. unfortunately there's a ton of people who deeply give a poo poo about race and gender and they're the ones propping the structure up for everyone else
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Ups_rail posted:
Rachel Dolezal was ages ago, man, and that rhetorical sleight-of-hand was already old when it was plucked from the anal sphincter of Breitbart.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Why are so many cities and states and apparently territories such poo poo at managing money god drat Your constituents want all of the services for no taxes whatsoever and there's a lag time on representatives being punished for "making people happy" by giving them what they think they want. And then it's not always obvious who exactly is responsible since budgets are a swirling vortex of factors.
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It's okay, Kentucky has a solution to healthcare, and this one doesn't involve chickens. https://twitter.com/BGPolitics/status/748214525187493888
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Luigi Thirty posted:Donald Trump is now hitting up the Icelandic parliament for illegal campaign contributions or something. I honestly think he's just trying to torpedo the GOP on purpose the way he's steering the whole party into a mountain
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FlamingLiberal posted:Sad! Charybdis must be fed
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I have been reading this Bolivar book in ten and twenty minute chunks for like three months.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Donald Trump is now hitting up the Icelandic parliament for illegal campaign contributions or something. something something Clinton Foundation
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Ups_rail posted:When I read this maxi boy I was expecting a troll post. But yeah take a break go do something you enjoy lol no. ethnicity you have an argument also gently caress you
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Luigi Thirty posted:It's okay, Kentucky has a solution to healthcare, and this one doesn't involve chickens. SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP
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