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MC Nietzche
Oct 26, 2004

Luigi Thirty posted:

It's okay, Kentucky has a solution to healthcare, and this one doesn't involve chickens.

https://twitter.com/BGPolitics/status/748214525187493888

Nope sorry going to need a non-twitter source for this because its honestly so horrifying that I can't believe Matt Bevin hasn't been struck by lightning yet.

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Munkeymon
Aug 14, 2003

Motherfucker's got an
armor-piercing crowbar! Rigoddamndicu𝜆ous.



Tatum Girlparts posted:

Yea pretty much, it's cool to poo poo on them because mr 'numbers don't lie' refused to acknowledge that the numbers objectively were showing Trump will be a decisive winner despite all of reality seeming to be actively rejecting it, but in the general he'll be back to being a good source to go to.

Trump broke him just a lil bit, and that's ok, he broke a lot of people, we're living in the craziest timeline now.

538 just paid less attention to the likely voter polls than they should have because favorability numbers are historically more indicative. Also the sample size sucks, so statistics gets really inaccurate.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

SquadronROE posted:

SERVICE GUARANTEES CITIZENSHIP

SERVICE GUARANTEES STRONGER TEETH tm

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

MC Nietzche posted:

Nope sorry going to need a non-twitter source for this because its honestly so horrifying that I can't believe Matt Bevin hasn't been struck by lightning yet.

Someone posted the link yesterday. It is a system where you get points for volunteering and other conservative approved activities that you can trade for dental or optical healthcare coverage.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Like anyone in Kentucky has teeth.

theflyingorc
Jun 28, 2008

ANY GOOD OPINIONS THIS POSTER CLAIMS TO HAVE ARE JUST PROOF THAT BULLYING WORKS
Young Orc

Munkeymon posted:

538 just paid less attention to the likely voter polls than they should have because favorability numbers are historically more indicative. Also the sample size sucks, so statistics gets really inaccurate.

Speaking of which, Silver came down pretty decisively on Trump's chances:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/donald-trump-has-a-20-percent-chance-of-becoming-president/

Still too high

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Xanderkish posted:

Rachel Dolezal was ages ago, man, and that rhetorical sleight-of-hand was already old when it was plucked from the anal sphincter of Breitbart.

:smith: I really enjoyed your post it was so concise and inclusive, and you wont repeat it for this is little criticism, come on its an old one but whats the answer? I didn't even pull out the dolphin from south park.

The Iron Rose posted:

lol no.

ethnicity you have an argument

also gently caress you

Why no for race but yes for ethnicity?

Also gotta warn ya I like it rough

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Arrgytehpirate posted:

Why are so many cities and states and apparently territories such poo poo at managing money god drat

Republican tax policy.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Reminder that KYnect, the Obamacare Medicaid expansion in KY, was more or less the gold standard for the system. Turnout was so poor in the KY Gubernatorial election though that something like 18% of the state were able to vote to have it removed, including a bunch of people who relied on it to literally not die.

Now they're literally going to have to indenture themselves to the state just for discounts on what was free before. The rest are looking at $700 a month for insulin instead of $3, or death from diabetes which is Not Fun

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

zoux posted:

Hmmm pretty fair, even discussion of issues surrounding gender and sexuality but have you considered that


Good to see David Vitter has already found lobbying work.

MC Nietzche
Oct 26, 2004

Trabisnikof posted:

Someone posted the link yesterday. It is a system where you get points for volunteering and other conservative approved activities that you can trade for dental or optical healthcare coverage.

There is only one response:

:suicide:

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Epic High Five posted:

Reminder that KYnect, the Obamacare Medicaid expansion in KY, was more or less the gold standard for the system. Turnout was so poor in the KY Gubernatorial election though that something like 18% of the state were able to vote to have it removed, including a bunch of people who relied on it to literally not die.

Now they're literally going to have to indenture themselves to the state just for discounts on what was free before. The rest are looking at $700 a month for insulin instead of $3, or death from diabetes which is Not Fun
It's ok, I'm sure come reelection Bevin will find some way to blame it on Democrats and get a 2nd term

MC Nietzche
Oct 26, 2004

FlamingLiberal posted:

It's ok, I'm sure come reelection Bevin will find some way to blame it on Democrats and get a 2nd term

Those dang Demo-moochers take too much with no skin in the game and so you have to punished, Hard-Working White Man.

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib

MC Nietzche posted:

Nope sorry going to need a non-twitter source for this because its honestly so horrifying that I can't believe Matt Bevin hasn't been struck by lightning yet.

That's oversimplifying a bit, but it's a reasonable interpretation. Basically, state medicaid will no longer cover vision / dental, and to receive medical you will now have to pay a monthly premium.

To qualify for vision or dental you will be required to enroll in a "fiscal responsibility class" or put in volunteer work at Southeast Christian Church.


Oh and speaking of Southeast Christian Church, did you know Matt Bevin decided to unilaterally dissolve the board of trustees at UofL? And he's replaced the entire board with a bunch of friends of his who just happen to attend, that's right, Bevin's own Southeast Christian Church.

Included among the people overseeing the academic progress of the state's #2 university will be, this gem:

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/704490732111994881

SACS, the org that oversees accreditation for a lot of Southern schools, is apparently looking over whether allowing a governor to completely dismantle and rebuild a University's board coincides with their requirement of academic freedom. Some members are not too pleased and this could possibly lead to UofL losing their accreditation, which would basically destroy the city of Louisville.

Oh man, this guy's twitter feed is too fun, I'm reserving this post for some real gems:

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/739149685101887488

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/671703602763841536

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/660105151642910720

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/657026710450405377

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/653341379947532288

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/652903822650699776

This one is amazing. "Psh, science. Kept him alive on Mars just so he could go home to Earth and die in 40 years. Bitchmade science."

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/580069631882358784

I think that's enough. I saved the full list for searching later.

pathetic little tramp fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Jun 29, 2016

Kit Walker
Jul 10, 2010
"The Man Who Cannot Deadlift"

Inferior Third Season posted:

I get really uncomfortable with the "biology" arguments. Like when people were arguing over whether being gay was a choice or something they were born as. It shouldn't matter, and pretending it does puts everything into outdated religious frameworks of whether something is acceptable or sinful.

My mother believes homosexuality is a choice and extremely dangerous because the gay agenda threatens to turn us all gay and that'll be the end of the human race. She also believes that gay men actively seek out rich men to turn gay to get their money. Like, yeah, ultimately it shouldn't matter, but to some people the possibility of it being a choice is something that threatens the very existence of society. Convincing them that it's not a choice is probably the only way to get them to change their minds. Not that I've had any success changing her mind...

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Kit Walker posted:

Like, yeah, ultimately it shouldn't matter, but to some people the possibility of it being a choice is something that threatens the very existence of society. Convincing them that it's not a choice is probably the only way to get them to change their minds. Not that I've had any success changing her mind...
That's kind of how I feel. On the one hand, if it actually convinces the mushy middle to go with some sort of Born This Way argument, it's absolutely worth doing. On the other hand, it literally should not matter in the slightest because either way homosexuals should just be treated like everyone else, and I don't want to endorse that stupid birth vs. choice argument at all.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



pathetic little tramp posted:

That's oversimplifying a bit, but it's a reasonable interpretation. Basically, state medicaid will no longer cover vision / dental, and to receive medical you will now have to pay a monthly premium.

To qualify for vision or dental you will be required to enroll in a "fiscal responsibility class" or put in volunteer work at Southeast Christian Church.


Oh and speaking of Southeast Christian Church, did you know Matt Bevin decided to unilaterally dissolve the board of trustees at UofL? And he's replaced the entire board with a bunch of friends of his who just happen to attend, that's right, Bevin's own Southeast Christian Church.

Included among the people overseeing the academic progress of the state's #2 university will be, this gem:

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/704490732111994881

SACS, the org that oversees accreditation for a lot of Southern schools, is apparently looking over whether allowing a governor to completely dismantle and rebuild a University's board coincides with their requirement of academic freedom. Some members are not too pleased and this could possibly lead to UofL losing their accreditation, which would basically destroy the city of Louisville.

Oh man, this guy's twitter feed is too fun, I'm reserving this post for some real gems:

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/739149685101887488

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/671703602763841536

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/660105151642910720

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/657026710450405377

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/653341379947532288

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/652903822650699776

This one is amazing. "Psh, science. Kept him alive on Mars just so he could go home to Earth and die in 40 years. Bitchmade science."

We just need a business man to come in and make everything okay again

Lote
Aug 5, 2001

Place your bets

zoux posted:

Hmmm pretty fair, even discussion of issues surrounding gender and sexuality but have you considered that


This was David Vitter's plan for Louisiana

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

DACK FAYDEN posted:

That's kind of how I feel. On the one hand, if it actually convinces the mushy middle to go with some sort of Born This Way argument, it's absolutely worth doing. On the other hand, it literally should not matter in the slightest because either way homosexuals should just be treated like everyone else, and I don't want to endorse that stupid birth vs. choice argument at all.

not emptyquoting.

because for real it shouldn't matter whether or not being gay or being transgender is something you choose. It's not like being autistic or mentally ill - treating someone badly for having a mental illness is lovely, but it's also unambiguously negative. The same is not true of being trans or being gay.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Ups_rail posted:

:smith: I really enjoyed your post it was so concise and inclusive, and you wont repeat it for this is little criticism, come on its an old one but whats the answer? I didn't even pull out the dolphin from south park.


Why no for race but yes for ethnicity?

Also gotta warn ya I like it rough

please dont cite "the argument from south park" like anyone still watches that show or will know what you are talking about

Shirec
Jul 29, 2009

How to cock it up, Fig. I

pathetic little tramp posted:

That's oversimplifying a bit, but it's a reasonable interpretation. Basically, state medicaid will no longer cover vision / dental, and to receive medical you will now have to pay a monthly premium.

To qualify for vision or dental you will be required to enroll in a "fiscal responsibility class" or put in volunteer work at Southeast Christian Church.


Oh and speaking of Southeast Christian Church, did you know Matt Bevin decided to unilaterally dissolve the board of trustees at UofL? And he's replaced the entire board with a bunch of friends of his who just happen to attend, that's right, Bevin's own Southeast Christian Church.

Included among the people overseeing the academic progress of the state's #2 university will be, this gem:

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/704490732111994881

SACS, the org that oversees accreditation for a lot of Southern schools, is apparently looking over whether allowing a governor to completely dismantle and rebuild a University's board coincides with their requirement of academic freedom. Some members are not too pleased and this could possibly lead to UofL losing their accreditation, which would basically destroy the city of Louisville.

Oh man, this guy's twitter feed is too fun, I'm reserving this post for some real gems:

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/739149685101887488

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/671703602763841536

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/660105151642910720

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/657026710450405377

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/653341379947532288

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/652903822650699776

This one is amazing. "Psh, science. Kept him alive on Mars just so he could go home to Earth and die in 40 years. Bitchmade science."

https://twitter.com/DFCobb/status/580069631882358784

I think that's enough. I saved the full list for searching later.

Holy making GBS threads Christ. I knew KY was getting hosed dry, but I didn't realize it was this bad. What the gently caress is Bevin thinking? Does he look at this stuff and think "Yes, this is a successfully implemented plan"??!

edit: Although I shouldn't talk, as a resident of NC with Governor/Mayor McCheese

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Hmm yes I do think this deserves a hearty :lol:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/28/republicans-may-have-just-forfeited-half-their-senate-pickup-chances/

axeil
Feb 14, 2006
Nate has Hillary winning AZ and within striking distance in MO, MS, SC and GA. I think we can all stop Arzying now.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

Lote posted:

This was David Vitter's plan for Louisiana

Rolling around in your piss and poo poo to avoid being nice to the different? Peak conservatism.

I have a friend edging into this poo poo (in every way) through the long standing tradition of hating european immigrants, and therefore slowly but surely shifting from alt-left to alt-right. Its really sad to see IRL.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Shirec posted:

Holy making GBS threads Christ. I knew KY was getting hosed dry, but I didn't realize it was this bad. What the gently caress is Bevin thinking? Does he look at this stuff and think "Yes, this is a successfully implemented plan"??!

edit: Although I shouldn't talk, as a resident of NC with Governor/Mayor McCheese

Bevin is insane. There really is nothing else to it. He's the embodiment of all of the terrible Tea Party ideas.

weekly font
Dec 1, 2004


Everytime I try to fly I fall
Without my wings
I feel so small
Guess I need you baby...



axeil posted:

Nate has Hillary winning AZ and within striking distance in MO, MS, SC and GA. I think we can all stop Arzying now.



For once Polls Plus looks way more accurate.

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde
Uh, how can Bevin say "you can get credit for volunteering at a single Christian Church (which I happen to belong to)" without getting bitch slapped over the Establishment Clause? Yes, I know there's an alternative way to get credit but once you mention church don't you have to open it up to all?

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



SubponticatePoster posted:

Uh, how can Bevin say "you can get credit for volunteering at a single Christian Church (which I happen to belong to)" without getting bitch slapped over the Establishment Clause? Yes, I know there's an alternative way to get credit but once you mention church don't you have to open it up to all?
Wouldn't be surprised if the idea is to create a court case legitimizing the practice, which of course does require a pliant SCOTUS

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

SubponticatePoster posted:

Uh, how can Bevin say "you can get credit for volunteering at a single Christian Church (which I happen to belong to)" without getting bitch slapped over the Establishment Clause? Yes, I know there's an alternative way to get credit but once you mention church don't you have to open it up to all?

I'm sure there will be a process for other churches to seek approval etc etc. Weird how the Muslim paperwork keeps getting misfiled in the trash.



Also this whole plan needs approval from the Feds, so there is that.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Lumberjack Bonanza posted:

An absurd reaction to something she can't understand, or a desperate attempt to explain a diaper fetish?

Depends :xd:

Have we reached the point where half the population is over 65 yet? It's probably a growth industry now.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
Mark Cuban had dinner with Bill Clinton

quote:

Bill Clinton and businessman Mark Cuban had dinner in Los Angeles last weekend, per an aide, who said the meeting was with "a group of friends and interesting folks."
"The President regularly does small, casual gatherings in whichever city he travels to," the aide said. "That's what this was."

Mark Cuban being vetted for VP slot?

JAMOOOL
Oct 18, 2004

:qq: I LOVE TWO AND HALF MEN!! YOU 20 SOMETHINGS ARE JUST TOO CYNICAL TO UNDERSTAND IT!!:qq:
do we think that having a brash, charismatic VP like Cuban would be good or bad for Hillary? I'm asking because I'm wondering if Al Franken may actually be a sensible choice if she's looking to "fight fire with fire"...he has a good track record in Minnesota and he's pretty sharp.

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
transgenders are ugly but they don't deserve to be beaten up

this has been my truth-is-in-the-middle, violence-isn't-the-answer opinion thank you for reading

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

quote:

police officer big mad that this black man owns a house in a rich neighborhood, follows him all the way to the door.

https://twitter.com/iiBreakNecks/status/747973182414454784

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Now I want you all to sit down for this bombshell but polls show Trump supporters are racist as hell. Apologies for all the shattered monocles.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

zoux posted:

Now I want you all to sit down for this bombshell but polls show Trump supporters are racist as hell. Apologies for all the shattered monocles.

This is truly a shocking turn of events that I personally did not see coming. :geno:

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



JAMOOOL posted:

do we think that having a brash, charismatic VP like Cuban would be good or bad for Hillary? I'm asking because I'm wondering if Al Franken may actually be a sensible choice if she's looking to "fight fire with fire"...he has a good track record in Minnesota and he's pretty sharp.
Al Franken would probably be a really persuasive and encouraging speaker as well as furthering us being on the Most Ridiculous Timeline, but I'm not sure if he's the best call. On the one hand he'd also be historic, I believe (first Jewish VP, wouldn't he be?) but Hillary doesn't really need to shore up the :jew101: vote, and he's ultimately a white guy from Minnesota.

I still figure it's gonna be Castro or someone in that vein - a younger Hispanic guy. That's where my own smart money would bet.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Munkeymon posted:

538 just paid less attention to the likely voter polls than they should have because favorability numbers are historically more indicative. Also the sample size sucks, so statistics gets really inaccurate.

Pretty much yea, he had solid reasoning. His biggest sin was failing to adapt and instead putting too much faith in 'no it's cool normally this is the right way...', and he was hardly the only person to do that with Trump this primary.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

JAMOOOL posted:

do we think that having a brash, charismatic VP like Cuban would be good or bad for Hillary? I'm asking because I'm wondering if Al Franken may actually be a sensible choice if she's looking to "fight fire with fire"...he has a good track record in Minnesota and he's pretty sharp.

Why do people keep wanting to pick sitting D senators as VP candidates? We need literally all of them.

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Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

zoux posted:

Now I want you all to sit down for this bombshell but polls show White people are racist as hell. Apologies for all the shattered monocles.

ftfy

A pretty high percentage of Clinton supporters are too.

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