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I guess the most non-professional ink I use is Noodler's Ottoman Rose. Goulet's strategy of handwritten receipt notes totally worked on me and I had to buy a bottle, it's such a pretty deep pink.
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I'm digging Edelstein Topaz at the moment.
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Jun 26, 2016 22:21
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Baystate Blue is very pretty. Just ignore the bit where it will eat your pens.
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Jun 27, 2016 01:13
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grack posted:Baystate Blue is very pretty. Just ignore the bit where it will eat your pens. Goulet has it in a 4.5oz bottle with a free Charlie 
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Sailor Oku-Yama is dope, especially when you use it with a broad enough nub to get some sheen going. R&K Solferino is a really nice, bright purple. I've been playing around with a sample of Noodler's Habanero, it's a more orangey Apache Sunset, which makes it a little easier to read. And then Emerald of Chivor, the base color isn't all that outrageous, but everything else about the ink is bananas.
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Jun 27, 2016 02:18
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I love Yama Budo, in a big fat wet nib. Best way to mark up contracts.
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Jun 27, 2016 02:30
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Thank god the actual physical pen shop near me only carries Private Reserve and the really expensive brands, otherwise I'd be out a lot more money. I'll have to poke around Goulet and see what strikes my fancyhowe_sam posted:Sailor Oku-Yama is dope, especially when you use it with a broad enough nub to get some sheen going. This is gorgeous  Actually all the colors recommended are gorgeous, I have a lot more lemmings now
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My fav purples so far have been R&K Scabiosa for a dusty purple, Diamine Imperial Purple for a bluer purple, and Iroshizuku Yama-Budo for a redder purple. ...also Noodler's Black Swan in Australian Roses is gorgeous if you've got a nice fat nib for it!
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I greased the threads and set the feed with hot water and now the Charlie works great and doesn't leak. It is really smooth. But, I managed to bend both the section and the barrel when setting the nib, which makes it less of a victory.  I suppose I need to buy another 4.5oz ink.
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Hey would an ultrasonic cleaner be good for cleaning fountain pens or could they take damage from it? After using fountain pens for some years I found the ones that have have staid with me are basically the pilot metro. All the noodlers ones I sorta think are trashy and don't work properly or need too much fiddling. I don't use them any more. I was also disappointed with the Kaweco Sport, it leaked. I mainy use the Metro and the Pilot Plumix and with baystate blue or eel blue. The Lamys also work, but just so boring somehow, I don't like to use them either.
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Jun 27, 2016 07:42
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Ultrasonic cleaners are perfectly fine for fountain pens as long as you have a plastic inner basket.
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Avoid ultrasonically cleaning Sheaffer inlaid nibs with it, however. The general wisdom of the FP community is that an ultrasonic cleaner can damage the bonding between the metal of the nib and the plastic of the section.
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Ultrasonic cleaners can also cause damage to some platings and materials. I strongly disagree with a blanket "it's fine for all fountain pens", although there shouldn't be an issue for most modern pens. My local pen store has one, so I've just taken pens there the once or twice I've felt like I needed one.
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I only really find myself using my ultrasonic cleaner when I'm getting dried gunk out of vintage pen feeds. Shoddy electroplating is generally known to have problems with them. I can't think of anything I'd actually need it for other than gunky feeds, and getting the left over gold out of a feed after using a 1670 ink if I'm feel particularly neurotic. Everything else a polishing cloth, heavily diluted ammonia solution, and elbow grease works admirably.
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They're great for pens made of modern materials. Certain resins and celluloid need special handling, but your average Pilot Metro, Lamy Safari, etc are fine.
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atholbrose posted:Ultrasonic cleaners can also cause damage to some platings and materials. I strongly disagree with a blanket "it's fine for all fountain pens", although there shouldn't be an issue for most modern pens. My local pen store has one, so I've just taken pens there the once or twice I've felt like I needed one. I'd worry about how it would work with my Visconti HS, which seems to have a lot of different materials on it/in it
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Landsknecht posted:I'd worry about how it would work with my Visconti HS, which seems to have a lot of different materials on it/in it I've owned my HS for over two years, inked and in use constantly, and I've never even taken a polishing cloth to it. More than most, that is a pen that is all about the patina and usage patterns. Why would you need to put it in an ultrasonic cleaner?
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Are there any titanium body, screw top pens with a clip that aren't super expensive?
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I like turtles posted:Are there any titanium body, screw top pens with a clip that aren't super expensive? Define "super expensive".
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Keep in mind that whole metal body pens (other than lowest-common-denominator Parker stuff and Chinese pens) are for some reason considered a super premium item by most manufacturers, and that Ti is one of the metals that's actually hard and expensive to work with beyond that.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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KKKLIP ART posted:I kinda want to get a cheap JinHao with a really broad nib, like a 1.1 or 1.5, and get Baystate Blue and just not care because me pen was less than 10$ and 10$ for a nib Do it, I'm pretty sure most of us have done the exact same thing.
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atholbrose posted:I've owned my HS for over two years, inked and in use constantly, and I've never even taken a polishing cloth to it. More than most, that is a pen that is all about the patina and usage patterns. Why would you need to put it in an ultrasonic cleaner? I like mine a lot, but I regularly have to lotion it up since I live in quite a dry climate
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NeurosisHead posted:Do it, I'm pretty sure most of us have done the exact same thing. yup, can recommend
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Landsknecht posted:I like mine a lot, but I regularly have to lotion it up since I live in quite a dry climate It puts the lotion on the pen or else it gets the eyedropper again?
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blowfish posted:Keep in mind that whole metal body pens (other than lowest-common-denominator Parker stuff and Chinese pens) are for some reason considered a super premium item by most manufacturers, and that Ti is one of the metals that's actually hard and expensive to work with beyond that. This is because there are a shitload of extremely stupid North American consumers that equate higher weight with higher quality, even if the exact opposite is true.
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grack posted:This is because there are a shitload of extremely stupid North American consumers that equate higher weight with higher quality, even if the exact opposite is true. Because plastic just *screams* quality.  Seriously though, the weight of a pen is not an indicator of quality. But it is nice to see a few companies who justify charging 200+ dollars for a pen by using materials that don't cost a few pennies. By the way, some of my favorite pens barrels are made of aluminum. A lightweight, and corrosion resistant material (when anodized).
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CrimsonSaber posted:Because plastic just *screams* quality. It's not plastic, it's  Precious Resin
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howe_sam posted:It's not plastic, it's is montblanc mold-injected? I mean even the high end japanese stuff is usually machined ebonite
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I went in on the Massdrop a little while ago for 2 bottles of Diamine Shimmer (Blue Pearl, Golden Sands). (note: I was having a hard time finding golden sands in stock ANYWHERE so when I saw it on massdrop I just had to get it! ...I have too much ink  ) The day it arrived I spent a lot of time shaking the bottles and looking at the pretty colors. A week later I finally got around to filling a pen with the Blue Pearl and... huh this is just regular blue?  the shimmer/glitter settles to the bottom REALLY fast (minutes! I did not expect that.). Anyway, I love the shimmer and I once again wish I actually did any day to day writing so I could use it all. I hate writing in spiral notebooks with my fountain pens because it bleeds through really easily, but I also don't want to write mindless garbage on expensive notebook paper just so I can use up ink. What a dilemma.Also, when I got my package I was rly excited and opened it as I walked back to my apartment, which I do pretty often with smaller packages. I pull out one of the bottles (in its nice little box) and immediately drop it on the concrete. Thankfully its fine! but as I reach down to pick it up the other bottle slips out of the package, on to the concrete. both bottles were fine but I deserved to have them both break. I dont deserve nice things.
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Landsknecht posted:is montblanc mold-injected? Montblanc pens have (polished-out) seams in the plastic, as do most Japanese pens. Only the super high end bling from Japan isn't all mass produced high quality plastic.
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What's the key to getting crazy sheens in ink? Does it come down to a pen that shits ink? I think I have two candidates for that then, but I wanted to make sure. Does a flexible nib really have anything to do with it?
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Paper plays a big role too. You want something that doesn't absorb all that much ink.
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:What's the key to getting crazy sheens in ink? Does it come down to a pen that shits ink? I think I have two candidates for that then, but I wanted to make sure. Does a flexible nib really have anything to do with it? Yeah, to a large extent it's about having a solid layer of dried ink. Even standard blue inks will be shiny on non-absorbent paper with a wet nib.
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blowfish posted:Montblanc pens have (polished-out) seams in the plastic, as do most Japanese pens. Only the super high end bling from Japan isn't all mass produced high quality plastic. I can get a hand-lacquered nakaya for less than most montblancs
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Landsknecht posted:I can get a hand-lacquered nakaya for less than most montblancs Yeah, totally, but I was talking more about quality and customisation grades rather than price grades (ps don't buy Montblanc).
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Anyone use them for drawing and sketching? I have a heap of multiliners, but I like to switch up mediums to keep things interesting. In a pen I need consistent flow, and in ink I need to know how well it'll hold up to things being layered on it. I had to learn a medieval script for a course in manuscript studies, and ended up with quite a collection of interchangeable nibs, but it's all the kind of thing where you're carefully dipping or dripping ink into the nib. It's all very elegant and was fine for proving my mastery of English Caroline Minuscule but it's tedious controlling the flow when I'm freehanding drawings instead of individual letters.
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In my experience (which is not huge) fountain pen inks generally smear and smudge when over written. I think it is because they are water based. Even the bulletproof noodlers inks that bind with cellulose end up with a layer on top that doesn't get stuck to the page.
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I don't because I'm a horrible artist, but plenty of people use various fountain pens for sketching and the like. I think Goulet had a thing about using them for sketching fairly recently, and there should be a section on JetPens for that sort of thing too. Assuming your pen's in proper working order and isn't empty, it should be fine in terms of flow, although that's kinda difficult to answer generally — plenty of feeds will keep up just fine if you are jotting down a shopping list, but if you start copying a passage from a book in cursive, you'll suddenly find that the flow's died in a half-page because more ink's gone out than air in. But in general, it'll be fine unless you're dead-set on coloring an entire sheet of paper blue in one go or something insane like that. As for ink, if it's dried and you went over it with another pen in a different color, your first layer will probably stay put, but in general fountain pen inks won't hold up to a waterbrush or whatever, no. That said, Platinum's Carbon Black ink is apparently used in certain brush pens, and that will (once dry, of course) generally stay put, even if you were to break out your watercolors on top of it. It is a fountain pen ink, although you'd have to be careful to actually clean out your pens if you're going to not be using it for a while once its empty, and probably be twice as thorough clearing it out to change inks as you would normally. Beyond that, as taqueso said, there are various waterproof inks, and what'll stay behind vs. what'll get washed off depends entirely on the ink. That's the sort of thing you'd find in an ink review on, for example, fountainpennetwork, although usually what's being tested there is more "I submerged this paper in water," not "I went over this with a marker" or something. This guy's wordpress has a bunch of ink reviews that might be of use, though. He reviews various inks for their interactions with water and bleach, mostly with a focus towards using them for artistic purposes, rather than writing. It's pretty cool stuff, really. e. Also, a pretty major factor as to how your ink's going to behave (and probably how well or for how long (continuously)) your pen will flow is the paper you use; but I'm sure you can find recommendations for that. Zenostein fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Jul 3, 2016 |
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So part one of my lovely Chinese pen + fat nib + Baystate Blue plan is in the works. Just ordered a Jinhao x750 and a #6 1.5mm nib. Next time I need to re-up on ink samples, I'll pick up some Baystate and have some messy, pen destroying fun.
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