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I'd say that this was my least favorite of the dragons, but hoo boy the next one's gimmick is equally painful. Phoebe, Tyler, Colette, Nadia e: update on the previous page.
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Ragnar's Choice X4 MAKE THESE DRAGONS BLEEEEEEEEED 
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Efe posted:This boss. Storm Emperor isn't too bad. The next one is though.  Phoebe, Tyler, Milly, Stardust
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Kemix posted:Ragnar's Choice X4 RIP AND TEAR
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Colette, Phoebe, Tyler, 1x LPer's choice
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Current results:quote:My choice: 9 Anyone not listed has no votes.
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Y'know what, actually, I'm closing votes abnormally early. Using my votes, I declare that the Storm Emperor party is: Phoebe, Colette, Ranger, Stardust, Sophie. If you want to know how this went: quote:6:27 PM - Ragnar Homsar: HOLY gently caress
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I feel like this would be an appropriate moment for that "The forest can't handle me right now" image of Ravelope, but I've long since lost track of it.
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Oh, I forgot to ask: Does leveling up restore your HP and TP?
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Junpei posted:Oh, I forgot to ask: Does leveling up restore your HP and TP? Ha ha ha ha ha. Nope. Remember, Atlus games HATE you. And that was not a generic you, mind. Each and every copy of an Atlus game personally hates its owner. The  Atlus touch, if you will.
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Omobono posted:Ha ha ha ha ha. Even the easier ones like Persona 4 and Radiant Historia?
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I feel like this would be an appropriate moment for that "The forest can't handle me right now" image of Ravelope, but I've long since lost track of it.  I gotcha fam.
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You're good people, Crosspiece. 
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I still can't believe a series of damage tests ended up creating such an abomination.  Anyways, Storm Emperor's patterns are basically all the stuff that was listed plus a few other things. For the first 3 turns Storm Emperor's attack pattern is Volt Torrent > Judgement > Normal attack. But that's if the Heart isn't summoned. The heart is summoned at 75% and 40%. However, during the last phase, Storm Emperor will summon it randomly if you take too long to finish it off. Storm Emperor will never use a physical attack after summoning the heart. The important thing to note is that unlike in EO2 through EO4, the dragons will no longer use their elemental breaths on 5n + 1 turns. Untold made it so that the dragons will use them after using a specific move, which is the one to watch out for. Though in Untold's case, the pattern for those moves was 5n + (-1) to 1. In EO2U, when the dragons will cast those moves is now completely random. In Storm Emperor's case, it's Corrupting Howl. After summoning the heart, Storm Emperor will either use Binding Dance or Corrupting Howl. However if Corrupting Howl gets used, Binding Dance will be used after Volt Torrent. After casting Volt Torrent, there's a 1 to 3 turn downtime where Storm Emperor will only use Judgement, Ancient Curse, or a normal attack. (this happens if Binding Dance wasn't queued up first.) He won't use the same attacks twice in a row unless you caused him to change phases during that time. Also unlike in EO2 to 4, the dragons are no longer semi-palette swaps of each other and the fights can't really be tackled in whatever order you want. Starting from Untold, they now scale in difficulty. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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Ragnar Homsar posted:Y'know what, actually, I'm closing votes abnormally early. Whoops, missed my chance I guess. Junpei posted:Oh, I forgot to ask: Does leveling up restore your HP and TP? IIRC you gain the HP and TP that your max increased by. So like, usually a miniscule amount.
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Update 61: Dragon       VIDEO: Boss Battle: Storm Emperor   A quick refresher on the Storm Emperor's stats: quote:
 Storm Emperor always opens with Volt Torrent.  In the absence of another buff method, I bought two Bravants--one for Colette to use on herself, and one for Sophie to use on Ranger.   Sophie will use the Bravant on Ranger before he gets his turn, so I have him Transform immediately. I skipped out on Delayed Chase because it deals considerably less damage than just using Fire Wave.  Stardust. Compression. Repetition.     Volt Torrent would straight-up one shot everyone except a Transformed Ranger without Volt Wall.      In case whatever Sophie does fails, I have Phoebe throw up Front Guard...which isn't actually that useful, since my main concern is Stardust getting one-shot by Judgement.  Having said that, I have confidence in Sophie, so I have Colette use Ailing Slash without enabling War Edge Power.  Madness Curse is my go-to skill for ensuring a boss doesn't do anything dangerous for a few turns.      Parry is a free passive chance for anyone in the same row as the Parry user to nullify an instance of physical damage. It's only a 6% chance at level 5 (its normal max), but flat-out stopping a damage instance is pretty nice.   Between Ranger and Stardust, this fight shouldn't take long.  Welp, had to happen sooner or later.  Yellow Heart HP: 3000, STR: 77, TEC: 59, VIT: 58, AGI: 52, LUC: 53 Skills:
Disable resistances: The only thing the Yellow Heart will do is use Resonant Thunder after everyone has taken their turn. It's light damage initially, but scales up very quickly. Kill it as soon as possible--which is easy, given that Stardust can just one shot it. The other dragons (yes, there are more), though? Theirs are far more annoying. The next dragon's Heart has 7500 HP, and the last one's has 13000.  Ranger uses Extend because that's what he does.  Stardust can one-shot the Yellow Heart with an Analysis-boosted Compressed Inferno Formula.  Most of the Storm Emperor's really dangerous skills use the legs, so I have Sophie try to bind them.    Euch.    There we go.  I dealt so much damage to the Storm Emperor in one turn (around 8000 or so) that he just instantly resummoned the Yellow Heart.  I expect the Storm Emperor will be close to dying next turn, so I have Ranger use Accelerate.   The only time the Storm Emperor has even touched me was that one hit on Sophie.   That's how much the first cast of Resonant Thunder does, incidentally.   I'm confident that even a few of the hits of Fire Wave will put the Storm Emperor near death, so I have Ranger skip one Accelerate action and just go straight to Akashic Nova.    The Emperor Scale has a 25% chance of dropping, incidentally. I did get pretty lucky.  SYSTEM: You have defeated the fearsome legendary dragon! At last you relax, pausing to catch your breath after the harsh battle...   SYSTEM: If you do not interfere, the dragon will return to wreak further havoc, fully healed and filled with hatred! SYSTEM: ...Against all expectation, you see something else appear in the sky. The figure glides through the sky faster than your eyes can follow, on a direct collision course with the dragon! SYSTEM: ...All at once, it hits you. You recall the quest from Abigail, to rescue the young monster whose parents had been slain... There can be no mistaking it. The figure diving towards the Storm Emperor...is that very chick! SYSTEM: It may be that the chick wishes to repay you, but it doesn't stand a chance against a legendary dragon! You cast around desperately, trying to determine some way to help! There's different flavor text from here on out if you have a Survivalist or Gunner--which we don't. SYSTEM: No matter how you look at it, your party has neither a survivalist or a gunner! All you can do is watch and hope for the chick, with no way to keep it from pain at the Storm Emperor's hands... The chick fights with all it has, pursuing the dragon with no regard for the size difference between the two. SYSTEM: Though you have badly injured the Storm Emperor, it is still a fearsome dragon. Its counter sends the chick flying... Just as all seems lost, a black blur suddenly pierces the thunder dragon! An arrow is deeply embedded in the dragon's forehead! It falls limp, plummeting to the ground--the arrow having finished it. SYSTEM: Though wounded and battle-scarred, the chick flutters weakly down beside you. Concerned, you look over its wounds, but it bounds in happy circles around your feet. Against all odds, it is safe... As you fondly watch the triumphant chick frolic, Canaan approaches you--having been the one to shoot the dragon.   SYSTEM: Canaan nods his head in understanding. His gaze falls to the bow, and he gestures towards it.  The  SYSTEM: With a regal wave of his hand, the ruler of the winged ones departs. The monster chick flaps up into the air, cheeping, and flies off into the sky. You watch the two leave, and take one last moment to look at the Throne of Thunder. The Throne's master has been slain. You have defeated the thunder dragon. For your efforts, you now hold the most powerful bow in existence. Congratulations! All that remains is for you to return to the bar when you have time, and report your success!  In the original EO2, you raised the level cap for individual characters by retiring them at max level (initially 70), which would raise their level cap by a measly 1. After that, you had to grind them all the way up to their new max from 30 if you wanted to raise the cap more. Getting to 99 for even one character without cheats was a massive exercise in "ugh." EO3 changed that--now, the three elemental dragons each raise your level cap by 10 when you kill them (except for the last one you beat, which only raises it by 9), up to a max of level 99. Raising the cap to 99 is basically a necessity, and taking on the dragons out of order is a serious pain simply because you'll be lacking the raw stats the game expects.       Each of the dragon quests gives 100k en.  Still just getting passives for Phoebe.  Each activation of War Heal All now heals for 33% healing power.  Ranger's Force gauge can now go up to a maximum of 200, along with 5% extra max TP.  Stardust almost has all of the all-target Formulas maxed out again.  Curb ATK Up multiplies Sophie's infliction chances by 1.23x at level 9.   Let's end with these things. Next time: we search for the Ice Duke's grave. Rea fucked around with this message at 07:15 on Jun 27, 2016 |
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Like Ragnar said, the Great Dragon is a total jerk in this game. Usually it's the Burger King that's the worst. I'm also surprised the monster doesn't die if you don't have a Gunner/Survivalist.
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Seeing this rear end in a top hat beaten so thoroughly and easily made me wonder how I even struggled with it in the first place. ...And then I remembered that I've only played Story Mode. This is a pretty drat good example of how strong other classes are in comparison, sheesh. I remember I just had to react to the Storm Emperor's pattern more than actually acting against it.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Like Ragnar said, the Great Dragon is a total jerk in this game. Usually it's the Burger King that's the worst. Burger King is the ice one, I presume. The one with the instakill, right? I can't but feel that abilities like ice/fire/lit wall are bad game design. Either they're useless or they're mandatory. The gently caress you elemental breath is by now a staple on these dumb lizards, but at least in 4 the way to survive it is to stack enough elemental resistance and you had a couple choices in how to do it.
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Ugh stop making me want to buy more games, Ragnar. Looking back over Fetus's EO2 LP again, it really is impressive how they overhauled the base game for the Untold version. Granted, it feels hard to believe that we're already nearing the end of the journey...
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Omobono posted:Burger King is the ice one, I presume. The one with the instakill, right? Yeah, I meant the Blizzard King.
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BlackPersona posted:Seeing this rear end in a top hat beaten so thoroughly and easily made me wonder how I even struggled with it in the first place. Yeah, I've been playing along with story mode (up to the floor with the Esbat fight) and I have no idea how I'm going to pull some of these fights off with a part of one-and-a-half damage dealers and three-and-a-half supports.
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FriskyBoat posted:Storm Emperor isn't too bad. Feel free to ask Ragnar the absolute nightmare I went through trying to beat this on my first run, he's very much aware since he's the only person I thought to bother about it. The next one did go down in two or three attempts though, and one was only because I underestimated one of its abilities. Third one went right back to giving me trouble, but funnily enough it wasn't nearly as much trouble as the Storm Emperor gave me. Maybe I just finally figured out how to play the game by then. Anyway, congrats on making an absolute fool out of the Storm Emperor. Again. You and I clearly have a different definition of the word 'boss'. vdate posted:Yeah, I've been playing along with story mode (up to the floor with the Esbat fight) and I have no idea how I'm going to pull some of these fights off with a part of one-and-a-half damage dealers and three-and-a-half supports. Fafnir's all the damage you need. But if you're really struggling to dish out the hurt, remember that Ailing Slash and Hazy Arrow both deal a *lot* of damage and aren't terribly hard to set up. Push comes to shove, consider reclassing Arianna as a Troubador for Crusade + Accelerate, though the game is most definitely beatable without doing that.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Like Ragnar said, the Great Dragon is a total jerk in this game. Usually it's the Burger King that's the worst. 
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I guess the orb is to make it easier if you fight the dragon again?
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Glazius posted:I guess the orb is to make it easier if you fight the dragon again? The problem is that 1) Volt Wall does the job just fine, 2) the orb only goes on one person, and 3)he has other dangerous attacks. Yeah, it turns the core into a non-issue, but if you're fighting it again, you can probably already deal with the core just fine.
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Update 22: The Calm Before the Storm I'm gonna start off this update by covering this quest. And no, there's no new dialogue for it in Story or something. So why am I doing this? Because Ragnar messed up this quest in his playthrough, so I'm playing cleanup for him. So let's get this started. Interesting info. Probably best to keep all of it in mind.     You remember that you've accepted a request to investigate the truth behind the treasure in the back of a cave. Did this guard put up the request? You confirm to him that you're here to fulfill the assignment. Indeed, there seems to be a dense copse nearby. Within, you can faintly make out a cavernous maw, and a road leading in... You must decide whether you will ask questions of the nonchalant guard, or begin exploring the cave.  Might as well find a bit more about this quest.  The guard shrugs amiably, and asks you if there's any other questions. If you want to know anything else, you can ask now. The guard laughs heartily, assuring you he'll answer any more questions you have. You seem to have the full story, but if you want to ask or clarify anything more, you are free to consult him. Hmm, that was very interesting info.  Enough to make the guard untrustworthy.  Something the guard said doesn't match up with the info we've been given.  And we'll prove it right now. When you were asking questions, something the guard said did seem odd, and out of place. Whether he was mistaken or lying, you can't be sure, but you can't shake off the feeling that he may be trying to deceive you...   How could he have possibly known about the stalactites if he never went into the cave in the first place!? According to the client's information, the stalactites exist deep inside the cave. None can be seen in the shallow entrance. In other words, it would be impossible to see any stalactites from the outside... So how does this guard, who claims to have remained outside, know about the stalactites in its inner depths? The man must have ventured deep into the caverns, and witnessed the stalactite formations himself! When you confront him on the matter, he meets your gaze, replying with a brief chuckle.  At your words, something in him finally snaps, and the smile finally drops from his face--replaced by a murderous glare. Sensing his sudden aggression, you prepare your weapons, and he reacts quickly. With a tut, he darts his hand into his pocket--   You don't know who this guard might be, but he must be after the treasure inside the cave. Judging by his pressuring you to enter the cave, it's possible the way ahead is very dangerous... If you feel continuing would not be worth the risk, you can go back to the bar and report your findings. However, if you will stop at nothing to acquire the treasure, then you should enter the cave.  Not entering the cave will end the quest immediately, and isn't what you want to do. You decide to enter the cave in order to retrieve the treasure and complete the request.  Further through the winding caverns, you notice a small hole in the limestone walls, and draw closer. Something is inside... Could this be the treasure in question? You reach in to pull out the object, but your reach falls just short of it... However, you stretch your arms as far as you can... and manage to grab hold of the cylindrical object. Pulling it out, you examine your prize. It appears to be a metal flute, colored a muted sky-blue... As you examine the flute, a loud din sounds from the entrance of the cave. It sounds like the crunch of heavy impact against stone. It grows closer by the second. Sensing danger, you tuck the flute away and press to the wall, holding your breath. Shortly, a monster with a hard carapace appears from the way out, steps heavy and unsteady. It roars in pain... Its body is bloodstained, and its shell cracked and scarred. It seems the monster has been crashing into the cave walls... It moves abnormally, and it seems to be running away from something. It limps desperately, hitting against the walls. After several thuds against the stone, it falls to the ground with a resounding crunch. The cave shakes and rumbles... The time has come to leave! You rush to the cave's exit, hurrying to make it before the cavern collapses on you!  Surrounding you, they open their jaws with horrific creaks. With no time to recover from the cave-in, they surge upon you!  This battle is the same.  While composed of metal, the flute's design reminds you more of the beauty of nature. It seems to calm you just to look at it. Some dirt remains on it, perhaps from the cavernous hole, but it has no cracks, and it still produces a clear and gentle tone. After all that, you have obtained the treasure. All that remains is to report to the bar to complete the request.  This would have been destroyed if you couldn't expose the guard's ruse.  Anyways, let's hand in our quest report. Fade to black.   Even if you don't get the flute, the rewards stay the same. However...  Getting the flute gets us an extra bit of dialogue.  I dunno...  Yeah, it's a but thou must. You have to leave the flute with Cass. No way around it. And that's it. Back to the actual Story Mode content.   Moreover, this time there is a monster flying above the ice. You check to see if you sense any special power within the monster, but this one also seems unremarkable in that regard. As you perform your duty, Chloe stares at the monster.  It is true that no amount of wishing will cause you to sprout wings... You will have to keep a close watch on the distance between you and the monster as you go if you hope to avoid it. You keep this danger in mind as you plan your route through the room...   You look towards where Flavio is pointing and spy a raccoon cub being assaulted by a forest monster! If you rush over now, you may be able to save it, though you can see no profit in doing so.  If we don't rescue the raccoon, it'll become a snack for said monster. So uh, let's not do that. Reason and rewards do not matter when a life is at stake! When you rush in between the cub and the monster, the little raccoon uses that moment to dart into the brush. The monster, furious at losing its prey, glares at you in anger! The life you wished to protect is now safe, and the time has come to protect yourselves!  Wait wait wait. Why does an elephant want to eat a raccoon?  This event made a lot more sense in the original when it was a bunch of wolves trying to feast on the cub. Then again, those did get upgraded to FOEs in this game. Anyways, I beat it down. You turn to see the raccoon cub you saved peeking its head out from the brush. When it sees your faces, it gives a somewhat plaintive squeal before slowly wandering out. The raccoon cub is skillfully carrying something with its front paws, which it drops at your feet. You recognize it as a rare material found in this forest...  You nudge back the rare item that the round-eared creature carelessly dropped. Yet the raccoon cub insistently pushes it towards you... If the cub won't take it back, you see little choice but to accept the material and put it with your belongings.  After the raccoon cub witnesses you accepting its token of gratitude, it disappears into the brush. In the original game, you didn't get a reward if you rescued the cub. You know, I kind of miss the events that don't have a direct benefit for doing a good deed. I found those to have more flavor. After you see the raccoon cub off, you return to your exploration.   As you search for a way through the area, Bertrand stops abruptly. What seems to have given him pause is a large block of ice... and a monster some ways beyond it. You search your memory for any sort of game that applies to this situation...  BAM!  The impact is sufficient to knock the monster from the air, killing it instantly! You mark what happened here, in case it proves useful later, before proceeding on your way.   And that's pretty much it for this floor.   Now that we reached a new floor, let's go back to town.      And that's all the new dialogue in Story Mode for this floor. I feel like taking another nap.  As you sit there, you hear a knock at your door. Who could it be at this hour...?  And dead last with absolutely no votes was Arianna. Despite the late hour, you hear someone knocking at your door... Judging by the tenor of the knock, you suspect it to be Arianna.     Battle advice: Your life at the Midgard Library: Her apple pie:    Alone again in your room, you have only the silence for company. It is late, and you decide to rest in preparation for tomorrow... Yeah, that one wasn't too interesting. How about we go back to the Labyrinth?  After tackling this quest first. This one takes place after the Just out of reach quest. And since we got the flute, a bit of dialogue is different. I'll just skip ahead to that point.  You tense, sensing movement behind you. Weapons at the ready, you turn to confront... a lone guard.  You can't see his face behind the metal visor, but he seems to be friendly enough. You tell the guard of your quest from the Grand Duchy. Arianna thanks the guard, takes the water skin, clearly winded and parched from the tough battles. Something belatedly dawns on you... Didn't Cass tell you that there were no guards posted on the 13th floor? If that's true, then... what is this guard doing here all by himself? You look to the guard, and notice that he is watching Arianna about to drink, with a malevolent grin on his face...! Something about his demeanor unnerves you, and instinctively you knock the waterskin from Arianna's hands! Astonished, Arianna demands an explanation... but staggers as a burning pain fills their throat.  It's clear the water had been poisoned, and despite your quick thinking, it seems that Arianna drank a small sip... You move to protect Arianna, who is on the ground gagging in pain, and draw your weapons! The guard nimbly steps back, hastily slipping out of range of your weapons. The guard drops all pretenses in his words, and makes no attempt to hide his malice towards you. Everything becomes clear now--you recall the amiable guard you encountered during the case of the treasure hidden in the cave... The man in front of you is the very same guard, and you almost fell victim to his lies a second time! The guard spits these words as a parting shot as he vanishes into the forest. You don't know why the guard was here, but the request is complete. Visit the bar when you can, and report your progress!  And that's it for cleanup. Let's explore the 14th floor for real now.   If Arianna is right, it stands to reason there is a nest nearby. You look around the area... Something fitting that description can be seen high up in the trees. However, the nest is quite a ways up, in a snow-capped tree. Climbing it will not be without its risks. You mull over whether to return the egg to its place in the nest above you, or to leave it be.  Let's return it. If you don't, you'll get into a fight with some very angry parents. You cannot simply leave this egg, knowing what fate it has in store if you do, and so you decide to return it to its nest.  I'm sure Flavio can handle this. (There's no gameplay difference between Knight or Flavio handling this.) Flavio carefully tucks the egg into his jacket before climbing the tree with flair. While you are talking, Flavio accomplishes his task and shimmies back down the tree.  Satisfied at returning the egg safely to its nest, you return to exploring.    Its gelatinous body slowly oozes across the slippery ice without any trouble... You gamely focus on the monster to see if it seems like a likely candidate for the power you require... But you sense nothing from it, and your friend scratches his head sadly.  You consider the option Bertrand presents, though you have not yet discounted challenging it to a fight.   Or we could just smash it with an ice block.  BA-  What!?  You will clearly not defeat this gelatinous creature with the ice blocks. Adding this to your knowledge of the Labyrinth's denizens, you proceed with your investigation.   However, it is mostly buried, preventing you from discerning what it is. You may pick up the shining object or ignore it and continue forth.  Finders keepers. You pick up the object, glinting in the snow.  necklace like this by accident... You listen carefully for any sound, and hear a low rumbling echo from somewhere... By the time you try and brace yourselves, it's already too late! All you can see before you is a solid wall of snow approaching you at top speed! Your guildmates are swallowed into the moving wall of snow and slammed into the ground!  You whisper dazedly to each other as you look about, but there's no sign of a secondary avalanche on its way. You speculate that there was an explorer who passed this way and lost their life in an avalanche. You take relief in your survival and quickly leave this place, lest another avalanche strike on the first one's heels.   You hear Bertrand grumbling as you walk through the flurries of snow.  You try to coax Bertrand down from his foul mood as you keep up your search for the monster...    Yet you do not see Artelinde, his constant companion. When the white-haired man notices you, he gives a short, stern exhalation.  With that bit of self-mockery, Wilhelm lowers his hat and reaches for the guns at his side. You suddenly feel as if his presence itself lashed out to strike you!   The woman looks to you, troubled. You acknowledge her gaze and all it entails as you proceed onward.
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I remember going through that quest on at least three different runs and never realizing that there was an extra part to it until I figured it out by accident one time. And that wasn't even me getting it right, I picked the wrong option after saying I didn't trust the guard and then I got suspicious of the fact that I couldn't talk to him again.
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You'd think somebody who could survive the labyrinth would just sell monster parts. Then again, dude may just be the killin' type.
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By the way, about Boomerang Axe: use it on back-row enemies, not with a Landy on the back row.
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Popping in to say that a new update will probably be coming on Monday or Tuesday--I have the next update fully recorded, but I'm away from my computer for the weekend because I'm visiting family. In other news, EO4 (and EMD but EMD is a bad game don't buy it) is currently on sale on the eShop--EO4 is $10, and I highly recommend you grab it at that price if you haven't played it. Rea fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Jul 2, 2016 |
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Update 23: Exquisite and Deadly Cuisines  Here's the end of floor 14.   And now that we got to floor 15, let's see what the people in town have to say now.  Except the only one with new dialogue in Story Mode is this bar patron. Well, why don't we go take a nap?  As you sit there, you hear a knock at your door. Who could it be at this hour...?  Uhhh, Flavio?   Now I've been sitting on a bunch of food ingredients, so let's get to cooking.    Dialogue merges here.  Theriaca As and Bs affect a row instead of a single target. Which is interesting, except that effect isn't something worth using up your food buff for.     You recover 25% of your max HP at the end of the turn if you're inflicted with an ailment or a bind. Not too great.  And I've cooked enough food to unlock the next restaurant scene.  Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here. And doing that causes the townspeople to have new dialogue. Though most of it is the same as in Classic.  And that's it for new town dialogue. Time to get back to the kitchen.    Dialogue merges here.  Increases Sleep resistance by 80%. Handy for the upcoming boss, but I prefer to make use of a different food when fighting her.   Dialogue merges here.  Choosing the first option just skips to this next part.  This increases experience gain by 20%. Though if you    Dialogue merges here.  Dialogue merges here.  This disables random preemptives and blindsides. Blindsides can absolutely wreck your party depending on the encounter while preemptives don't do too much for your party. If you don't mind giving up preemptive strikes, this can be a nice food to make use of.    Both of these choices lead to the same lines of dialogue.  Give her all of it: Give her half: Don't give her anything: Dialogue merges here.  Self-explanatory. It's a nice food if you're trying to make use of ailment classes.     The party will recover 2% of their max TP per turn while this is in effect. If you're expecting a battle to last over 15 turns, take this over the Rye Bread.    You feel like your head is being squeezed with immense power!    You slowly drink the tea Regina prepared. Eventually, your headache recedes...  In other words, brain freeze.  Dialogue merges here.  Oh yes! Behold, one of the best food effects in the game! You might not think that this food would do much since the description is pretty vague. But what this does is that blinded enemies have their hit rate reduced by 2000. Whatever that means. Look, I don't know what the formulas are in the 3DS EOs that aren't EO4, okay?Anyways, what this means in practice is that attacks with an accuracy check will always miss! Not only that, the Blind status got a pretty big buff in this game. In the past EO games, if a target had their evasion disabled, blinded attackers could still hit the target. (So a blind person would never miss an attack on hitting another blind person.) That got changed in EO2U. Blinded units can still miss their attacks on units who are supposed to have their evasion disabled. So this food essentially buys you a lot of free turns in the big fights. It helps that Blind is one of the easiest status effects to land in this game. This food and another food that we can unlock later pretty much catapults Survivalists into a top tier support. And you better believe that I will abuse this one heavily. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Jul 5, 2016 |
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Update 24: A Tragic Turn of-NO MORE GAMES! (Artelinde and Wilhelm)  It seems to be calling for help... Bertrand is right. Little that could happen in this forest would surprise you. Whether you take the risk and approach the source of the voice is up to you.  Let's go towards it. You find yourself unwilling to bear the consequences of ignoring a human's cry for help. Having decided to investigate come what may, you search for the source of the voice! Could the voice have merely been your imagination...? Just as you are determining whether or not to continue your search, Bertrand raises his voice. Though doubtful, you dig away at the snow, but lo and behold--you find an iron helm that seems to belong to a guard! You quickly dig out the snow covering the buried guard and lift him up. Though the guard is severely enfeebled from his time under the snow, he speaks haltingly as Chloe treats him. The guard shows an intense relief at surviving as he thanks you. The soldier removes money from under his helm and holds it out shakily to you. You hesitate to accept his secret savings, but you'd feel awkward declining his show of gratitude, and so you gracefully take it.  After the guard watches you pocket the money, he leaves on his way to report back to the Grand Duchy. You continue to tease Bertrand as he stomps on ahead on your investigation.   You sense a dreadful presence beyond it, and you have an inkling of what that presence may be. The pair said that they would be waiting for you in the frozen hall of the 15th floor. If they are past here, then is there indeed no recourse but to fight them...?  Given all that has transpired to this point, you see no other way through the situation but to fight Guild Esbat. Your guildmates all look to you. If your resolve is set, then open the door and march onward!                 Here's my setup for this upcoming fight. I'm not stacking Grimoires yet (Everyone just has Natural Instinct.)   Music stops. It belongs to the tall man named Wilhelm who warned you on the previous floor.    The man standing resolutely to guard the door from you speaks in tones colder than the snow, as he draws his guns. A woman draws up beside him.  The witch takes her own step forward to block your passage. The woman's overtones are as cheerful as ever, but her speech has a sad ring to it...   That's just stone cold.The princess asks sadly, and the witch's face stiffens. You have exhausted every other possibility... the time has come to take weapons in hand and fight! Artelinde Level: 40 HP: 4900 STR: 34 TEC: 36 VIT: 34 AGI: 20 LUC: 34 Skills:
Disable resistances: Wilhelm Level: 40 HP: 4700 STR: 36 TEC: 33 VIT: 26 AGI: 38 LUC: 26 Skills:
Disable resistances: Say hi to one of the most reviled boss fights in the game. In the original game, these two were incredibly easy unless you had a terrible party. (The scars from that LP will never heal!  ) Even more so if you had access to ailments there, which essentially shut them down completely. Atlus' solution to that? Make one of them completely immune to most ailments. Thanks a lot, Atlus. Anyways, the start of the fight isn't too bad. Setting up here like always.   I'm having Chloe rev up the pain train to smash into Wilhelm with. I'm going to try to inflict a certain ailment on Wilhelm, which has a low chance of landing. Which is why I'm busting out Chloe's Force Boost now.  Bertrand will just defend the party throughout the entire fight.  I don't anticipate this fight taking long, so I'm breaking out Flavio's Force Boost now.  Gonna try to Blind Wilhelm, but with his Blind resistance, Flavio only has a 16% chance of landing it.   Artelinde will use Corpse Ash on the first turn, and on every 5th turn after that. I'll have Arianna use an AOE Prevent Order to put a stop to that.  Eh. Like I said, the chances of landing that were pretty low.    And that's a decent chunk of Wilhelm's HP gone.   Denied. I do have to say, Guardians of the Sorrowful Ice is a very track. And it got a nice remastering in EO2U. It's very fitting for the fight against Artelinde and Wihelm, which is quite the tragic turn of-   Oh. Well that's the last time I'll be hearing that song in the game. Anyways, while Chloe and Flavio will be focusing down Wilhelm, I'll have Knight forcus down Artelinde.  Wilhelm follows a set pattern, so I'm gonna have Bertrand deal with that. Mainly because I find that his attacks are more threatening than Artelinde's. As long as you don't have any ailments on your party, she really can't do much against them.  And I'm gonna increase our party's damage with Attack Order.   AHAHAHA! Well this fight just got a whole lot easier!  Kind of regret not using Front Guard, but I didn't want to rely on a 16% chance. I mean I just got really lucky there.  And that's not even the level 20 version.  Fortunately for me, Artelinde got hit more with that.   Finishing up the combo before I use Extend.  Wilhelm is effectively a non-entity in this fight now, so I can have Betrand focus on defending against Artelinde's attacks.  I don't see this fight going on for long, so I'm using Flavio's Force Break now.  Reapplying Prevent Order for the next time Artelinde casts Corpse Ash.  A reminder that Rapid Fire is an AOE.  And it didn't hit a single person. That's just how powerful the Blind food is. It effectively buys you free turns if you can Blind your enemies.  Summer Rain took off a decent chunk of their HP.   Decent damage to Artelinde.  Aaaand, this is where the fight gets awful. Being explorers, Artelinde and Wilhelm have access to Force Boosts. Accelerate turns his elemental shots into random target attacks. Which is kind of annoying since the elemental walls are no longer guaranteed to protect your party from those attacks. The actual threatening part is that Wilhelm is granted priority. This means he can't be out-sped unless you're using Swap Step or if you leg bound him. If someone is left at low HP at the end of a turn, chances are that they're gonna get finished off on the next turn. Also, after 3 turns in their Force Boosts, Artelinde and Wilhelm will explode and likely kill your entire party. But thanks to Wilhelm's priority boost, you effectively have only 2 turns to take him down before he uses Mystic Shot. Which is why people prefer to take out Artelinde first and just use something like Perfect Defense for Mystic Shot. Oh and unlike your Force Boosts, Artelinde's and Wilhelm's last indefinitely. But you would only know this if you tried to disable Wilhelm through Panic or something though.   But he's pretty close to dying, and Ailing Slash should finish him off.   ...Really? You just did that?  Ailing Slash isn't that impressive if it can't get the damage boost.    Not much I can do now since I've exhausted most of my damage options.  Meh.   Ha! That's why I used the last turn of Victory Vow to set up another AOE Prevent Order instead of using Proof of Nobility.  There we go!   Slowly but surely, Artelinde is being whittle down.  Once you've taken down one of the members of Guild Esbat, the other one will enter their Force Boost state. In Artelinde's case, Spellsword turns all of her attacks into AOEs, and enables her to use Blind Laughter and Loose Thread on party members without ailments. She'll use those moves before unleashing Nature's Will. This is why people prefer to target Artelinde while ignoring Wilhelm completely. Her Force Boost is much harder to live through than Wilhelm's. Loose Thread is the real threat, especially if your main strategy is to wait until their Force Breaks kill them. An Arm Bind can ruin any plans to use Perfect Defense and True Endurance to avoid that.     Now that Artelinde has entered her Force Boost, I use Shield Protect along with Front Guard to reduce Artelinde's damage output by 77.5%.  Flavio's damage output isn't much, but that Blind he landed earlier made the fight a lot more bearable.    This may not seem like a lot of damage, but it's adding up.   Artelinde's Blind Laughter dispelled the attack buff on everyone. A shame.  Eugh.  It's the final turn of Knight's Force Boost, so I might as well use his Break. Now most people just like to focus down one of Esbat members and just use Perfect Defense or True Endurance to defend against their Force Break and let them kill themselves for an easy victory.  I'm not one of those people.    And the effects of Loose Thread are completely blocked, so my party can go to town on Artelinde.     GET DUNKED.   That fight went very smoothly for me. That Blind is pretty much the biggest reason why, as it kept Wilhelm out of the fight for a good while. Oh revenge is so sweet.   Vibrant red stains the pure white hall. The victor has been decided.  What you do doesn't matter here. Atoning for crimes with one's life... The weight of the sins they've committed in the past... Bertrand's words echo heavily in your mind. But is death truly a means of atonement...?   In contrast to the elderly marksman's fury, the woman's voice is quiet and coaxing. The man bites his lip, mortified... but the strength ebbs from him, and he crumbles to his knees again. You nod to the woman's question. You tell her that you must forge onward until you have gained power in the depths of the forest. The woman furrows her brow in sadness and bites her lip. With that, the witch and her guardian withdraw from the frozen hall. The battle with Guild Esbat is over, though it left you with mixed feelings as to its outcome. You may proceed onward now if you wish, or return to town to regroup. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Jul 4, 2016 |
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Jul 4, 2016 16:34
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The worst thing about this fight is their dumb Force Breaks, but the best thing is Wilhelm's ridiculous action movie firing poses. 
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Jul 4, 2016 16:44
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Dr. Fetus posted:
Isn't the bolded part said by Regina, not Chloe? quote:
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Blaze Dragon posted:Isn't the bolded part said by Regina, not Chloe? Oops. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Jul 5, 2016 02:18
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drat Doc, putting in overtime for those Story Mode updates huh? I can't say I'm surprised that they won't let you off Guild Esbat, but at the same time it feels kind of cheap to have them survive via plot armor. After admitting killing adventurers the least we can do is avenge the fallen. 
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I accidentally let them get off their Force Breaks once...ONCE. Needless to say I went RIP AND TEAR YOUR HUGE GUTS on them in the rematch.
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