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It's Steam Sale time! Odd that Mare Nostrum isn't on sale while Stellaris is, though. Is it worth buying it at full price?
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Jun 25, 2016 12:34
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Elman posted:I'm thinking of starting an Aztec run to aim for the achievement, is that wise? I've never really played Central Americans and I heard they're harder now, with Corruption and everything. Yes, estates and corruption together make Central America much more difficult. Things might become easier when the new technology changes come down the pipe, but I'm not sure when that will be. Depending on what patch you play on, you might also be more likely to have a less aggressive Portugal, Spain, or France knocking on your door. Europe is less of a Sure Thing for those countries in the more recent patches. But even if you playing on a version pre-corruption and pre-estates, the whole situation is quite dicey. Your tech group is so bad that you may be better off not researching any admin techs before Westernizing, since you get free techs when you reform your religion anyway. You absolutely must completely reform your religion before Portugal shows up to gently caress you. It's a balancing game between annexing portions of potential vassals so as to keep them weak but not taking too much because the doomsday rate is higher for every province that you've annexed. Once you've passed 2 out of the 5 reforms the rate becomes manageable enough that victory is inevitable, and then you can spend time focusing on annexing everything as fast as possible. The reforms give you a colonist, so that's a good way to expand. By the time that you've fully formed you should be making crazy money from your gold provinces, so colonization with just 1 colonist should still be pretty rapid. If you have the spare Admin points to get Exploration before the Europeans arrive then that can be great, but coring all of those central american provinces can take up a lot of admin
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Jun 25, 2016 13:12
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toasterwarrior posted:It's Steam Sale time! Odd that Mare Nostrum isn't on sale while Stellaris is, though. Is it worth buying it at full price? It's good if you want to play as a peaceful country (hiring out condottieri is very nice), or if you want to manage a massive fleet. But I'm managing a massive fleet in my current game and I'm still waiting for a sale anyway. Speaking of which, I want to say that seeing several DLCs being -66% on Steam while the Paradox Plaza shop sale had them at -50% literally two weeks ago soured me quite a bit on buying stuff from their own shop. Why even have your own quaint little obscure shop, if you're going to offer worse prices than the convenient megastore next door?
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Jun 25, 2016 13:39
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toasterwarrior posted:It's Steam Sale time! Odd that Mare Nostrum isn't on sale while Stellaris is, though. Is it worth buying it at full price? I would not pay full price for Mare Nostrum, but that's just my 2c Stellaris is good if you're into Paradox games, but the mid/late game are pretty empty and slow right now. There's a lot of room for improvement from DLCs and patching but you'll get at least a good 20 hours of gameplay figuring it out.
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Jun 25, 2016 17:56
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The other pro tip for an Aztec run is to dump most of the MPs you'd normally spend on tech into developing your provinces.
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Jun 25, 2016 21:55
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Cool, thanks guys. Sounds like there isn't much fervor about EU4 right now, which is a shame since I kinda wanted to get back to it.
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Jun 25, 2016 21:59
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toasterwarrior posted:Cool, thanks guys. Sounds like there isn't much fervor about EU4 right now, which is a shame since I kinda wanted to get back to it. I mean, Paradox just released two games in one month so that's to be expected. Thanks for the Aztec advice, I'll give it a shot.
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Jun 26, 2016 00:21
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if you want to buy stellaris just buy distant wolrds instead
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Jun 26, 2016 04:29
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no tux no bux tho
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Jun 26, 2016 04:46
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I just formed the mughals and am so so rich suddenly. Can't wait to get stomped in by the white man
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Jun 26, 2016 10:25
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pointsofdata posted:I just formed the mughals and am so so rich suddenly. Can't wait to stomp the white man Ftfy
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Jun 26, 2016 19:41
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Liege tips? Aachen is a free city so attacking them will call in Austria, and everything else is burgundy or a burgundy vassal - and if the Inheritance happens it's all Austrian, boxing you in completely.
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Jun 26, 2016 19:52
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Elman posted:I mean, Paradox just released two games in one month so that's to be expected. My progress so far:  It's not too bad, but I only westernized in the 1580s after France wrecked me so it's gonna be a while before I can face the Europeans. The real problem is France has Spain in a PU, and I'm not sure I'll ever be able to break them. France's just too ridiculous these days. You never get a semi-historical Europe like you used to, since France just goes wild all over Spain and England and there's nothing you can do about it 
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Jun 26, 2016 21:19
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Holy poo poo, France-Spain PU? That's some crazy bad luck. If they're allied with a bunch of other big powers or don't have any serious rivals then that might be the end of your Sunset Invasion attempt. You never know what might happen though and I think your progress looks excellent. Any chance that you can take the Caribbean from Portugal? There are a lot of high value provinces in that region
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Jun 26, 2016 23:24
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QuarkJets posted:Any chance that you can take the Caribbean from Portugal? There are a lot of high value provinces in that region Portugal is allied to France and Spain  Good news is the Caribbean is actually independent now, though they're allied to England. I think that might be doable, although my military tech still sucks and my fleet definitely can't deal with England's. It's worth a shot I suppose, England will get distracted eventually.
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Jun 27, 2016 00:43
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So I bought all the expansions on the steam sale after enjoying (and being bad at) the base game for about a month and it's now even more confusing Will allies no longer go to war without territory promises or favors, even against a mutual rival?
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Jun 27, 2016 22:01
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Very occasionally they will, but basically they want stuff now, which is good.
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Jun 27, 2016 22:19
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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pdxjohan posted:He's not at the helm. I'm still in charge of design, with Anona replacing Wiz as project manager. Jake is junior designer, sitting with the team. His first feature is ruler personalities, and he is working on design proposals for the 1.20 patch. Thanks Johan
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Jun 27, 2016 22:45
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Elman posted:My progress so far: Depends on the game. I just played one as Ottomans and France got completely eaten up by Aragon, Brittany, and England. I think they have three provinces left in Europe, one of which is permanently held by revolutionary rebels.
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Jun 27, 2016 22:56
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France should do worse now that it and Austria can't form an unholy alliance, right? That always seemed to be the most frequent cause of French invincibility before.
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Jun 28, 2016 03:11
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Jazerus posted:France should do worse now that it and Austria can't form an unholy alliance, right? That always seemed to be the most frequent cause of French invincibility before. is that a thing? in my most recent Castile/Spain game, Austria and France were allied which prevented me from trying an early war on France to break them up, then France later switched to allying the Ottomans. since the Ottomans were allied with one or more North African nations and there's strait access across Gibraltar, that pretty much stopped me attacking France since the Ottomans could march their armies to attack me from North Africa. fat loving chance I'm going to take on France + Ottomans without naval superiority. I sort of hope that's something addressed by the new Great Powers mechanic, I would rather the penalty for allying other Great Powers be steep so you don't have absurd power blocs forming.
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Jun 28, 2016 03:27
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Pellisworth posted:is that a thing? in my most recent Castile/Spain game, Austria and France were allied which prevented me from trying an early war on France to break them up, then France later switched to allying the Ottomans. since the Ottomans were allied with one or more North African nations and there's strait access across Gibraltar, that pretty much stopped me attacking France since the Ottomans could march their armies to attack me from North Africa. fat loving chance I'm going to take on France + Ottomans without naval superiority. I think so but I haven't played in a while so maybe it's an upcoming change. France and Austria have/will have a historical enemies opinion modifier to make it much less likely.
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Jun 28, 2016 04:04
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Jazerus posted:I think so but I haven't played in a while so maybe it's an upcoming change. France and Austria have/will have a historical enemies opinion modifier to make it much less likely. I just checked my current game and they have the historical enemies modifier, but they definitely started the game allied against me (Castile), Burgundy, and Aragon. Maybe I just got boned by the RNG since the starting situation was Castile + Aragon + Burgundy vs. France + Austria (England allied to Austria but not France). Edit: really the current problem is that Castile and the Iberians in general are extremely weak right now. France and the North African nations (one or more of whom are often allied with the Ottomans, who now have a land route through Gibraltar) can easily run a train on Castile. Edit2: also I'd suggest giving France more serious disasters. They're ahistorically centralized and stable at the start, the old setups where France had a bunch of vassals they needed to integrate was probably more realistic. I have literally never seen the French wars of religion disaster fire, and they should probably have a civil war event (something like the Fronde) too. As it stands now they're once again the Big Blue Blob juggernaut that is unstoppable unless you luck out on early alliances allowing you to crush them in their infancy. Like it's weird to me that War of the Roses almost always triggers for England, but France only rarely experiences the French Wars of Religion. Pellisworth fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Jun 28, 2016 |
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Jun 28, 2016 04:10
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Just checked and French Wars of Religion disaster only progresses if France has less than 75% Religious Unity before 1600. Which is vanishingly unlikely in your typical playthrough. Let it fire if they have 2-3+ Protestant or Reformed provinces.
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Jun 28, 2016 04:34
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PittTheElder posted:Very occasionally they will, but basically they want stuff now, which is good. Just to be clear, my allies need to have decided on their own that they want the target's provinces, right? That is, I cannot actively do anything to entice them into a given war besides accumulating favors and raising trust (and maybe financing them to get them out of debt, if applicable)?
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Jun 28, 2016 05:33
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NihilCredo posted:Just to be clear, my allies need to have decided on their own that they want the target's provinces, right? Correct. You may pay 10 Favors to call an ally to war, OR you can promise them territory. If they want land from the target, they'll join without spending any Favors but will also expect you to give them land in the peace settlement. If you offer them land to enter the war then don't reward them with any, you'll lose Trust.
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Jun 28, 2016 05:40
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You also won't be able to promise territory to any allies for 20(?) years.
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Jun 28, 2016 06:39
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So I kept going and I'm doing ok, I'm catching up in tech and I'm even beating the UK right now! I... Think I'm gonna consider this a learning experience and try again later though. 
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Jun 28, 2016 10:08
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Weird that Burgundy still exists in that game
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Jun 28, 2016 10:43
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NihilCredo posted:Just to be clear, my allies need to have decided on their own that they want the target's provinces, right? Yes, if you have the right DLC you can go to this tab in the diplomatic view to see what provinces they are interested in:  You can also go to that tab in the diplomatic screen for your own country and click on provinces to tell the AI that you want them. If your ally calls you into their war they are quite likely to give you a few of those provided you have actually done significant work in the war. Be careful about expressing interest in provinces your ally is also interested in as the AI has figured out that countries with conflicting interests are not natural allies.
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Jun 28, 2016 12:46
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QuarkJets posted:Weird that Burgundy still exists in that game
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Jun 28, 2016 13:17
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Bort Bortles posted:The AI does not seem to care about pretty borders. Hopefully this is something Johan/DDRJake can fix! I was hoping that the States mechanic would fix it. I don't think you can teach a computer OCD
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Jun 28, 2016 16:32
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super fart shooter posted:I don't think you can teach a computer OCD
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Jun 28, 2016 18:52
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My gf bought me Wealth of Nations and other DLC as a gift, which is sweet. It also borked my Ironman Castile run, which is ugh. Love hurts. So, two questions: what ware the buildings/ improvements you usually purchase in your games? I always get the Markets on provinces that have trade centers, and temples where they'll bring more than 0.20 gold a month. Other than that, though, it feels like most benefits are...not that great. The stuff that lowers Unrest takes so long to work that you might as well reduce autonomy, stamp down the revolt, and pacify the place for a while. Likewise, developing provinces seems a very extravagant use of points. If your current ruler is godly and the heir is also good, I can see it. Otherwise, might as well boost tech, get good generals and explorers, etc. Finally, when did they remove the Hansa from the game? I was going for a merchant game to try out WoN and couldn't find it. It was one of my most fun Baltic runs, too. Swallowed all the coast, most of Holland and Austria, and had so much money that building the strait was a minor expense.
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Jun 30, 2016 02:30
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Sephyr posted:My gf bought me Wealth of Nations and other DLC as a gift, which is sweet. It also borked my Ironman Castile run, which is ugh. I do basically the exact same, though sometimes I'll by barracks as well if I have the money and I want the extra manpower. Sometimes the one that increases missionary chance is necessary if you are converting religious centres. All the buildings are pretty situational, except for the ones that you listed.
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Jun 30, 2016 06:16
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Tsyni posted:I do basically the exact same, though sometimes I'll by barracks as well if I have the money and I want the extra manpower. Sometimes the one that increases missionary chance is necessary if you are converting religious centres. All the buildings are pretty situational, except for the ones that you listed. Good to know I'm not the only one. The manufactories in particular can be a hard choice. 500 ducats is a lot of cash for most of the game. Sure, they'll pay for themselves within 20+ years, but sometimes having good savings for a quick army or to avoid a bad random event can count for a lot more than a slightly improved trickle of income. And if you can afford building them willy-nilly, odds are you don't need to.
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Jun 30, 2016 06:49
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Jun 30, 2016 07:24
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The only buildings I ever bother with are manpower and force limit upgrades. The money buildings usually take several decades to pay for themselves, and there's no pressing reason to spend gold on them.
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Jun 30, 2016 07:37
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Fister Roboto posted:The only buildings I ever bother with are manpower and force limit upgrades. The money buildings usually take several decades to pay for themselves, and there's no pressing reason to spend gold on them. Several decades in a game spanning centuries...
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Jun 30, 2016 08:22
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Gort posted:Several decades in a game spanning centuries... It's called living in the moment 
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